Nonreality;365847 Wrote:
I always read the manuals but not always before I dive into a product.
I hate products that don't have them.
I hate products with no manual, too, but I try to get hold of the
manual before buying a product to see if it really does what the
advertising hype implies
alZmtbr;374116 Wrote:
swap speakers left for right (or just the cabling)... sub in another set
of speakers... verify with a set of headphones as far up that chain as
possible...
With no signal, gently move the cones - does any of them feel like they
are 'dragging'?
2.2meters apart? How
mswlogo;374170 Wrote:
It could easily be the room and speaker placement.
Is by any chance the louder one closer to the corner of a room?
I agree with the prior post. Swap it to confirm.
Ah, I would have said the less noisy one (LHS) is more in the corner
130mm from the side wall and 290
First thing I do when I get a new item is download the manual in PDF
form if it is available. Manuals are easy to misplace but I always know
where the PDF is. I like the idea that I can zoom in on the fine print
or print out a few pages. Also, if I order something on the web I can
brush up on
Hi Guys (Girls),
I'm in the lucky position of being able to afford my first real upgrade
from high street hi-fi and have found myself a dealer who seems happy to
loan me gear until I'm content with the sound quality. The first upgrade
was from an SB3 to the Transporter and I'm now auditioning
norman12 wrote:
The problem I have had with all combinations of the above is sibilance,
masses of it, on almost all vocals, especially female, along with what I
consider an over-bright balance.
Sibilance is caused by too much high end. As is brightness.
Good vocalists know to pull back from
No, the SF speakers are definitely not sibilant. I've been listening to
various models for years.
I'm VERY sensitive of this problem, I'm like you and I could never
listen to speakers sounding sibilant, and SF are my favorite speakers.
So, let's see what else it can be.
First, have you placed
What's your listening room like? Carpets, drapes, lots of soft
furniture etc. can make a big difference and help decrease brightness.
And depending on the dispersion characteristics of those speakers, room
placement could matter quite a bit as well.
Otherwise you might experiment with the
Themis wrote:
No, the SF speakers are definitely not sibilant. I've been listening to
various models for years.
I agree, I've used SF Concertos for my main listening room for years.
From SB1 to Benchmark DAC1 to Transporter. Its not a problem.
--
Pat Farrell
http://www.pfarrell.com/
Sibilance is not always bad, artificial sibilance is. Remember that word
existed before us audio enthusiasts came along. :)
Darren
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SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1
Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system
Experiment witht he positioning of the speakers,
some speakers i had has been sensitive to the angle toward your
listening positioning, experiment with different toe in.
Dont beam the treble axis directly toward your listening positioning,
some modern speakers tends to peak i little directly on
Thanks for all your replies.
Yes, I gather sibilance is a real problem for some vocalists and
various mechanical and electronic methods are used to minimise it in
studios that care.
Are there any freely downloadable non-sibilant audiophile recordings
that anyone's aware off?
The room is around
norman12 wrote:
I have considered the Inguz plugin, but I would need to upgrade my
server to run that - not dismissed though, I may have a play with this
over the holidays.
Jez,
If you have a Transporter you could get a Behringer DEQ2496 [1] and
insert it in the Transporter effects loop.
I
Oh well it can be the recordings, personally I've come to peace with
fact that many recordings sounds like crap.
Some persons take a very deep plunge into the audiophile rabbit hole
trying to fix the unfixable .
It can take some time to get used to new sound, the brain is an amazing
organ it
darrenyeats;374537 Wrote:
Sibilance is not always bad, artificial sibilance is. Remember that word
existed before us audio enthusiasts came along. :)
Darren
Yes, I've been researching this a little, natural sibilance helps us
recognise many words that we may not have heard properly. I think
Mnyb;374561 Wrote:
Oh well it can be the recordings, personally I've come to peace with
fact that many recordings sounds like crap.
Some persons take a very deep plunge into the audiophile rabbit hole
trying to fix the unfixable .
It can take some time to get used to new sound, the
I don't have a problem with the SB per se, but being someone who enjoys
listening to music and has had the pleasure of that experience
increased by the purchase of a couple of SBs I was curious about the
potential for improving the sound quality of the device, if that is
possible, without
norman12;374574 Wrote:
I believe all of this gear to be demo equipment so not box fresh.
This is rather good, because hybrid amps (like the Copland, if I
recall) tend to be a little bright out-of-the-box. ;)
--
Themis
SB3 - North Star dac 192 - Denon 3808 - Sonus Faber Grand Piano Domus
pfarrell;374536 Wrote:
Themis wrote:
No, the SF speakers are definitely not sibilant. I've been listening
to
various models for years.
I agree, I've used SF Concertos for my main listening room for years.
From SB1 to Benchmark DAC1 to Transporter. Its not a problem.
--
Pat
Themis;374584 Wrote:
This is rather good, because hybrid amps (like the Copland, if I recall)
tend to be a little bright out-of-the-box. ;)
Themis,
Yes, this amp has done the rounds by the state of the box - absolutely
mint condition though.
How would you describe the sound of your GP's?
Me will be stoned to death maybe but maybe your dealer can borrow you
different speaker cables.
We once cured some sibilance of a system with QED silver 2.5mm. The
other way around some simpler cables may be technically better and
cheaper. It was a 3.5m cable.
Only a test if you can hear it
An update, that I would appreciate comments on as to if I'm thinking
along the right lines:
Before I switching the speakers L to R to test for room/speaker
positioning causing the inbalance, I tried the following with the
pre/dac balance set as 0 on L and 0 on R:
lhs speaker quiet, rhs speaker
norman12;374587 Wrote:
Themis,
Yes, this amp has done the rounds by the state of the box - absolutely
mint condition though.
How would you describe the sound of your GP's? Difficult question I
know!
Well, I won't enumerate all the characteristics of the SF speakers...
In a few words, they
While I have no personal experience with the D-500's, I do run the
D-200's with my SB3 and Bel Canto DAC3 with excellent results. They
are plenty powerful to drive even my Mirage M-1's to louder levels than
I care to listen to. The D-500's are supposed to be an improvement, in
addition to
Wombat;374596 Wrote:
Me will be stoned to death maybe but maybe your dealer can borrow you
different speaker cables.
We once cured some sibilance of a system with QED silver 2.5mm. The
other way around some simpler cables may be technically better and
cheaper. It was a 3.5m cable.
Only a
Themis;374602 Wrote:
Well, I won't enumerate all the characteristics of the SF speakers... In
a few words, they are speakers made to nicely reproduce human voices and
wood-made instruments. So that you can almost see the wood of the
instruments. They are one of the most fatigue-free speakers
Have you tried a double blind sibilance test? Between you and me: Psst
(or, to you, PSSST). Ignore this post - it's just a joke to wind up
Themis. :)
Darren
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darrenyeats
SB3 / Inguz - Krell KAV-300i (pre bypass) - PMC AB-1
Dell laptop - JVC UX-C30 mini system
MikeOB;374580 Wrote:
Thanks for your help guys - as always on these forums people are very
helpful, especially to us novices. Have a good Christmas.
This is without doubt my favourite audio forum.
It has its share of trolls and flames but the IQ is pretty high here.
It isn't dominated by
opaqueice;374257 Wrote:
Well, he says this:
(Missing)
which is pure and unadulterated BS.
It is.
It reads like something written by someone that knows nothing about
quantum mechanics and just picked up a few buzz words and strung them
together.
So? I assure you that he knows far
Hi Richard,
I've no experience with your amp, do you have a link to tech specs?
The only thing I can think of is the Transporter at full volume on the
RACs at 2 volts could be causing the amp input stage to clip regardless
of what volume the amp is set to. 2v is about average for modern CD
So there was a difference when you swapped intermediate IC's? You have
another set of IC's to try?
Deaf Cat;374601 Wrote:
next
lhs quiet, rhs loud
swap rca L R into power amp
lhs loud, rhs quiet
swap rca L R out of pre/dac
lhs quiet, rhs loud
- not power amp at fault
- not IC
Deaf Cat;374601 Wrote:
Another digital coax? (could these cause a channel inbalance?)
Nope.
Deaf Cat;374601 Wrote:
:( it may be my new second hand pre/dac, do you think I'm on the right
lines?
DCThat would be my guess.
Darren
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The Copeland, at 60W, cannot handle the sibilant peaks and is
overloading. Most underestimate the transient peaks that digital gives
us. Easy to overdrive modest amps, especially tubes.
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