Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Aperion Speakers & Peachtree

2010-03-26 Thread JohnSwenson
I have a Nova and a Touch but not the speakers mentioned. I think very highly of the Nova. The DAC is very good (not as good as my own DIY ones, but very good). The preamp section is actually quite good. The tube is not just window dressing, it actually sounds quite a bit better with it running.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread JohnSwenson
On the main subject of this thread there IS a reason that 176/192 might sound better, but the explanation is somewhat involved and I don't have time right now to put it all down. Maybe tomorrow I'll take a couple hours off from DAC design and give it a try. John S. -- JohnSwenson

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread JohnSwenson
Phil Leigh;527990 Wrote: > John - what's your view on after-market power supplies for the > SB3/Touch? > I'm pretty much convinced that there MIGHT be a very small benefit for > the SB3 s/pdif but I'm darned if I can find any benefit for the Touch > using its digital outputs... I've measured big

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread mlsstl
Michael, perhaps you should change your ID to "Don Quixote". But you do get a gold star for persistency ;-) -- mlsstl mlsstl's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9598 View this thread: http://fo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
Pat, 1) Downsampling introduces artifacts, right? 2) Of course, Wave sounds same as flac. The purpose was to save CPU cycles on Transporter by doing the decompression on the server. What would be the CPU load on the Transporter for 192/24 raw wav file? -- michael123

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread Pat Farrell
michael123 wrote: > regarding silly sampling rates, tell it to Linn, Lindberg, Classic > Records and others, ok? As P T Barnum said, no one has ever gone broke underestimating the intellegence of the American public. I have no problem with 88.2/24 or 96/24. I can't hear it, but I can believe it c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
Pat, regarding silly sampling rates, tell it to Linn, Lindberg, Classic Records and others, ok? Working with Wave files on the server reduces the load on the Transporter. By which degree? is it enough to lift the limitation of higher bitrates? -- michael123 ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread Pat Farrell
michael123 wrote: >> What is the point of your continual posting in this thread? You are not >> going to change any facts. The firmware is not open source, the CPU is >> too slow. >> >> Accept it and move on with your life > If that's a pure software issue, it can be profiled and optimized. Its

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
If that's a pure software issue, it can be profiled and optimized. There was a post by Sean Adams, saying that different Flac compression ratio's generate different CPU load (make sense..) so, if the limitation would be to use pure wav files, while SqueezeCenter will decode? -- michael123

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
If that's a pure software issue, it can be profiled and optimized. There was a post by Sean Adams, saying that different Flac compression ratio's generate different CPU load (make sense..) so, if the limitation would be to use pure wav files, while SqueezeCenter will decode? -- michael123

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on Parasound Halo amp/preamp potential purchase

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
It is a bit warm, not hot, even after 4-5 hours of continuous use. A21's first 10W are in pure Class A, then in Class AB -- michael123 michael123's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=23745 View this t

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on Parasound Halo amp/preamp potential purchase

2010-03-26 Thread garym
Aha. this makes sense. For my purposes I don't need the $10k+ amplifier. Running some older B&W speakers, but will likely change those as well. Speakers will be a much more extensive search/test. Thanks again. very useful info and nice to hear directly from a user of the parasound product. By th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread Pat Farrell
michael123 wrote: > My choice was greatly based on the fact that Transporter is an open > platform. There is a good chance that your choice was based on incorrect understanding of the open license. The hardware has never been open source in any sense. None of the firmware has been open source, alt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on Parasound Halo amp/preamp potential purchase

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
In A21, the signal from XLR input (balanced) got converted internally to unbalanced. It is not dual mono as well.. Some stereo amplifiers (but I am afraid not below 10,000$) actually contains symmetric halves for left and right signals, while each, in turn, contains identical circuits for + and -

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
andyg;528229 Wrote: > No, it's already been said that it's not possible, I was just stating > that if it were, it probably still doesn't make a lot of sense, other > than for marketing purposes. I agree about "marketing purposes"! I know few people that do not buy it just because it does not sup

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread andyg
No, it's already been said that it's not possible, I was just stating that if it were, it probably still doesn't make a lot of sense, other than for marketing purposes. -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.c

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
andyg;528143 Wrote: > Of course it's not abandoned. But even if it were possible to support > 24/192 I'm not sure there's a real reason to do so. Can anyone > actually ABX accurately between 24/96 and higher sample rates? I have few HDAD albums by Classic Records with both 96/24 and 192/24 lay

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on Parasound Halo amp/preamp potential purchase

2010-03-26 Thread garym
Thanks. Interesting about the not fully balanced. I read something about that but I'm afraid I don't fully understand the implications. I understand (I think) balanced vs unbalanced in general. -- garym garym's Profile: ht

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on Parasound Halo amp/preamp potential purchase

2010-03-26 Thread michael123
I have A21 and love it! When bought my speakers (MSRP 22K US$), I checked Octave and VAC, costing few times more. A21 was the one that sounded most balanced, details, punchy bass, etc. Note though that while Transporter is fully balanced, A21 is not. It is still very clean and very dynamic. I t

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Thoughts on Parasound Halo amp/preamp potential purchase

2010-03-26 Thread garym
Seeking comments (or alternatives) to the possible purchase of these two items. Looking for mid-fi (meaning price) stereo and drawn to these units as I like the balanced inputs (at a relatively low price) and I actually do run a turntable, so the builtin phono inputs on the preamp are useful. Most

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread DaveWr
paulduggan;528201 Wrote: > There are consumer benefits to owning a powerful sports car that are not > psychological. > What are the consumer benefits of >96Khz sampling? (I'm not convinced > there are any benefits >44.1Khz given good mastering but 96Khz seems to > give some headroom for sloppines

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread DaveWr
Robin Bowes;528198 Wrote: > On 26/03/10 14:43, DaveWr wrote: > > > > And Ferrari's exceed the UK speed limit. > > and are generally driven by dickheads, with more money than sense. > > :) > > R. OK Ford Focus - same issue. -- DaveWr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread paulduggan
There are consumer benefits to owning a powerful sports car that are not psychological. What are the consumer benefits of >96Khz sampling? (I'm not convinced there are any benefits >44.1Khz given good mastering but 96Khz seems to give some headroom for sloppiness). So why -should- you make the TP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread Robin Bowes
On 26/03/10 14:43, DaveWr wrote: > > And Ferrari's exceed the UK speed limit. ...and are generally driven by dickheads, with more money than sense. :) R. ___ audiophiles mailing list audiophiles@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/m

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread DaveWr
And Ferrari's exceed the UK speed limit. Dave -- DaveWr DaveWr's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=9331 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76496 __

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread paulduggan
iPhone;528169 Wrote: > ...24/96 basically already exceeds most peoples listening range. Read: '-far- exceeds -everyone's- hearing range'. Unless you are a young dog (some breeds) or a dolphin. But hairy ears and water as a medium bring their own problems. -- paulduggan ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread iPhone
michael123;528097 Wrote: > 192/24 is not the top goal for me, merely a (frustrating) limitation. > Is it completely abandoned product in Logitech? > What about few bugs promised to fix? (like pseudo over-voltage, > updating flac library so the device will not stuck on certain bitrates, > ..) > It

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread paulduggan
Finally, the elephant in the thread gets outed! -- paulduggan paulduggan's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=30396 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=76496

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Why cannot you make Transporter support 176.4 and 192Khz/24?

2010-03-26 Thread andyg
Of course it's not abandoned. But even if it were possible to support 24/192 I'm not sure there's a real reason to do so. Can anyone actually ABX accurately between 24/96 and higher sample rates? -- andyg andyg's Profile