Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Mnyb;549683 Wrote: That distorsion is measured in the hifi rags as some kind of side bands to a test signal ... You are probably referring to Stereophile's jitter test methodology. They input a fixed amplitude and fixed frequency signal to the DAC and expect only that at the output . Any other

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Musical Fidelity X-DACv3 and X-PSU v3

2010-05-24 Thread adamdea
It is being done at the moment- in the meantime i have to say I am finding it a bittersweet surprise how good the touch is with anolgue out (albeit through the X10D) -- adamdea adamdea's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread Peter Galbavy
I would also like to have some feel for what jitter sounds like. I am not being sarcastic here, honest! Can anyone suggest types of music or other recordings that are particularly susceptible to the effects of (bad) jitter ? When it comes to poor lossy compression - e.g. 128k MP3s - I can hear

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread Mnyb
'As Darren mentioned earlier' (http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?p=549234#post549234), it seems some modern DACs (e.g. Benchmark DAC1) have for practical purposes solved these problems... I don't think this is restricted to some modern dac's but rather almost all modern dac's ,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread nicolas75
Unusual advice, a guy from antelope is talking about the benefit of jitter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65gN44G9hU -- nicolas75 nicolas75's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15823 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread mswlogo
nicolas75;550220 Wrote: Unusual advice, Igor Levin from Antelope is talking about the benefit of jitter. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-65gN44G9hU Sounded pretty good until he mentioned a 64bit Processor. When ever I hear that I know it's a B.S. sales pitch rather than a technical pitch.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread nicolas75
mswlogo;550225 Wrote: Sounded pretty good until he mentioned a 64bit Processor. When ever I hear that I know it's a B.S. sales pitch rather than a technical pitch. The most significant attribute of a 64bit Processor is much memory it can address. Which has absolutely nothing to do with the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-24 Thread TiredLegs
snarlydwarf;548794 Wrote: I frequently confuse my car's transmission with my interconnects. How about Monster cables as spark plug wires? -- TiredLegs TiredLegs's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-24 Thread Mnyb
TiredLegs;550246 Wrote: How about Monster cables as spark plug wires? Do you think the quality of insulation is up to it ;) They are probably made in prc and the price is jacked some 1000's of % as the MO is in the audio cable business . Can these don't ever ever ever use monster cable's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread mswlogo
nicolas75;550229 Wrote: I don't fully agree. I do prefer a Windows 7 x64 over a x86, even if I use few memory. Modern OS are more stable and efficient in 64bit than in 32bit. If someone want to build a PC with a processor which is not a 64bit one, I wonder which OS you will install on it

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Monster cables.

2010-05-24 Thread iPhone
Mnyb;550249 Wrote: Do you think the quality of insulation is up to it ;) They are probably made in prc and the price is jacked some 1000's of % as the MO is in the audio cable business. Can these don't ever ever ever use monster cable's treads be kept alive all over internet, this is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread nicolas75
mswlogo;550276 Wrote: How windows behaves in 64bit vs 32bit is totally irrelevant. All this means is you bought into the 64bit buzz word he used to impress you. Because people associate new and more stable with it. Which has nothing to do will a totally controlled embedded DSP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread mswlogo
nicolas75;550294 Wrote: I don't think so. It is because I have to use and develop applications for x64 et x86, both Windows and Linux. So I am quite aware that the amount of work for maintaining both versions results in the fact that the main version is more carefully tested, reliable, and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] The sound of jitter

2010-05-24 Thread Andy8421
There seems to have been some serious thread creep here. At the risk of going back to the original topic, I took the top off an old meridian CD player to see what sort of job it would be to intercept the S/PDIF signal chain. Multlayer PCB, tiny components, the chance of cutting a single track