Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-16 Thread firedog
snottmonster;625526 Wrote: Really? I haven't seen any such definitive measurements, though as a new guy around here I could quite easily have missed something. I did recently see some info that showed the buffer modification changed the noise induced on the processor power supply (maybe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] S/PDIF cables should be (a) - =1.5m or (b) as short as possible?

2011-04-16 Thread Curt962
After reading some internet discussion a year or so ago, I compared an Amazon Basics TOSlink cable (about $8) to a Canare/Neutrik 110ohm AES/EBU cable in the digital effects loop of my Transporter.I just wanted to hear the STAGGERING differences for myself. Over a period of evenings going

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread Daverz
magiccarpetride;625616 Wrote: Still, many people (myself included) can clearly hear the differences Nothing exceptionable there. in the sound quality A very questionable assumption. -- Daverz Daverz's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread Curt962
Referring to Garym's post #2... 100% dead-on correct IMO. I too also find myself enjoying MCRs often thought provoking posts. I am a recovering audiophile. Recovering in the sense that I no longer am able to delude myself into hearing staggering differences where none exist. As Gary so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread garym
Curt962;625738 Wrote: It is unfortunate to me that the truly outstanding designs of some great engineers has been lumped into a category that includes audio grade fuses, and Hi-definition solder. Yes, this is the sad part. And of course all the audio magazines are so beholden to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] New feature on TP Transnav?

2011-04-16 Thread amcluesent
IIRC you could always 'force' it -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10286 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=86991

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread snottmonster
Curt962;625738 Wrote: It's not a me-too club many of us have joined, rather it is a group that simply asks that you prove your claims Couldn't put it better - and it is irrespective of the subject matter The onus is on the person making a claim to provide proof (as similarly explained the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread pski
garym;625743 Wrote: ... Actually the best improvement I've had in 20 years is the ability to access all my music easily in multiple locations because of its digital conversion. It's like rediscovering my music collection. Bingo ! ( I will admit that replacing Circuit City bargain-table

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-16 Thread soundcheck
@firedog You run an EA Pacecar according to your signature, right? The Pacecar is supposed to be doing quite sophisticated reclocking, right? The only reason, why it's there is to clean up the mess supplied by the source - any source. You IMO shouldn't hear any differnces with any of my Touch

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread firedog
There seem to be 2 camps of extremists: 100% objectivists, who believe only in DBT, and say (other than tubes, speakers and turntables) all reasonably well made electronics sound the same. In the other camp, there are the subjectivists, who make extravagant claims about different components, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-16 Thread firedog
soundcheck;625773 Wrote: @firedog You run an EA Pacecar (1250$!) according to your signature, right? And your Touch is even slaved to the Pacecar!?!? The Pacecar is supposed to be doing quite sophisticated reclocking, right? The only reason for that device to exist is to clean up the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread pfarrell
garym;625621 Wrote: MCR, I enjoy many of the threads you start with philosophical questions and I think of you as a very high quality troll So rate his posts on the official Sean Adams troll metric. -- pfarrell Pat

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread michael123
Curt962;625738 Wrote: I don't want differences. I want improvements, and I will find them in products that can actually deliver. Trust your ears! -- michael123 Please fix http://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=16814

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] soundcheck's Touch Toolbox 2.0

2011-04-16 Thread adamdea
Gazjam;625590 Wrote: not trying to be funny, but your stating opinion when you say you did not hear any difference. Others have tried it and find it worthwhile. Its ok to disagree :) I upsample via SOX in my setup, so all my conversion is done at the server end anyway... I am not stating

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread earwaxer9
Curt962;625738 Wrote: Referring to Garym's post #2... 100% dead-on correct IMO. I too also find myself enjoying MCRs often thought provoking posts. I am a recovering audiophile. Recovering in the sense that I no longer am able to delude myself into hearing staggering differences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-16 Thread earwaxer9
Wombat;625661 Wrote: If you argue now that some bad stuff creeps in from the higher to the lower frequencys someone even should filter everything hard above his hearing capabilities and never wonder about bad sounds creeping down. I think i even have read some eastern high-end studio

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] question on DAC roll off filter

2011-04-16 Thread Phil Leigh
earwaxer9;625866 Wrote: It seems to be a trade off between aliasing and destructive pre-ring, with hard filters producing more ring. the pre-ringing is not destructive... it is inaudible... -- Phil Leigh You want to see the signal path BEFORE it gets onto a CD/vinyl...it ain't what you'd

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread ralphpnj
firedog;625774 Wrote: There seem to be 2 camps of extremists: 100% objectivists, who believe only in DBT, and say (other than tubes, speakers and turntables) all reasonably well made electronics sound the same. In the other camp, there are the subjectivists, who make extravagant claims

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Hearing the differences

2011-04-16 Thread michael123
earwaxer9;625861 Wrote: For the record I have NEVER come even close to hearing what is described in reviews (placement of instruments etc.) While most of the reviews are pretty much paid advertisement, I do hear basic things like imaging as you mentioned Why did you buy then JPS power cords