evdplancke;669118 Wrote:
I am afraid you are not the only one to know the truth about jitter :)
Just to broaden a little bit your culture, jitter in data networking
protocols commonly means packet jitter, meaning that the delay between
packets is varying over time.
My new server HW -- Zotac Zbox ID41 ION2 -- arrived.
My TT server Linux is prepared and working.
I spent a couple of hours on it last night.
Unbelievable: This new ION2 platform performs worse
than my old ION1.
I can't get HD 1080p material to play anymore.
I'll send it back.
I need to
soundcheck;669149 Wrote:
Good that you bring that up.
Thanks for endorsing my reflexion. I thought I was from another planet
here.
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soundcheck;669149 Wrote:
...All these different types of jitter are non linear variations and
might cause this are that nasty sideeffect. And this is what Phil will
never understand.
Even though it's evident that there is an issue, nobody really has
nailed it down yet:
One reason IMO
Is there a reason I can't connect to my Touch via Squeezeplay after
running TT 3.0? Never had this problem with 2.0.
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Did you guys really have to wake up that sleeping monster, Phil Leigh?
It was so peaceful.
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Phil Leigh;669170 Wrote:
Instead of issuing personal attacks against me, perhaps you'd like to
explain HOW network packet jitter can possibly impact audio quality?
If I'd try to find out and explain the root cause behind all the araes
of improvement, TT3.0 would have been launched in 2015
Phil Leigh;669170 Wrote:
Instead of issuing personal attacks against me, perhaps you'd like to
explain HOW network packet jitter can possibly impact audio quality?
If I'd try to find out and explain the root cause behind all the areas
of improvement, TT3.0 would have been launched in 2015
Phil Leigh;669170 Wrote:
Instead of issuing personal attacks against me, perhaps you'd like to
explain HOW network packet jitter can possibly impact audio quality?
I'm sure the entire industry would like to know.
Just completely disconnect the network from the SB (pull the ethernet
plug
praganj;669226 Wrote:
I don't know how it is possible, but the quality of the network affects
the sound quality. This is my experience. I tried two different routers
and four different switches dedicated to SBS-SBT connection and they all
affects the sound. Maybe when TCPIP packets arriving
soundcheck;669227 Wrote:
...Your comments ...Oh dear... packet jitter is only relevant to
network protocols... do sound kind of arrogant to me.
You suggest you'd understand the whole subject. I'm saying you don't.
If you just look at one aspect I call it pigeonhole thinking. What's
oh no, the thread has gone into very low level discussion on things the
majority of users know nothing about :-)
I think I'll go and put some music on, or maybe try and come up with a
spotify playlist of songs with the name Jitter in the title
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RadioClash;669216 Wrote:
Did you guys really have to wake up that sleeping giant Phil Leigh? It
was so peaceful.
Is sleeping giant a term of endearment? :-)
Sorry to spoil everyone's love-in...
However, last time I looked this was a FORUM and therefore we are
allowed to have differing views
Why don't we create a whole separate thread for Phil in which to attack
this thread instead of cluttering up this one?
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*Components*: Squeezebox Touch (analogue outs) - Rega Mira 3 - Boston
Acoustics VR2s - Rel T2 sub, D-Link hub
Phil is not attacking anyone. Why are some people threatened by
engineering and facts? This is not a religious forum, although
audiophilia is sometimes similar to a religion I suppose.
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Howard Turkster;669253 Wrote:
Why don't we create a whole separate thread for Phil in which to attack
this thread instead of cluttering up this one?
I'm not attacking this thread. I haven't said a word about about the
mods.
I was merely commenting on the relevance or otherwise of the terms
debate is good, I guess in this sense its a very detailed and technical
discussion - however someone like Phil is obviously a very knowledgable
person on the subject
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Phil Leigh;669257 Wrote:
I'm not attacking this thread. I haven't said a word about about the
mods.
I was merely commenting on the relevance or otherwise of the terms
ethernet jitter and packet jitter.
This post reveals far about you than you probably intended.
Your posts reveal you're
Howard Turkster;669261 Wrote:
Your posts reveal you're attention-starved, whether or not you
understand that.
I very much doubt thatI wouldn't read too much into what people
post, its a forum on the internet - you can really understand what
people are fully like from it
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Howard Turkster;669261 Wrote:
Your posts reveal you're attention-starved, whether or not you
understand that.
Attention starved? He brings up valid points about networking,
unfortunately some people seem to take it personal.
I say keep up the debate in this thread it's healthy.
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Phil Leigh;669170 Wrote:
Instead of issuing personal attacks against me, perhaps you'd like to
explain HOW network packet jitter can possibly impact audio quality?
I'm sure the entire industry would like to know.
Just completely disconnect the network from the SB (pull the ethernet
plug
I'm sure these mods do make a difference in standalone mode. Surely if
each mod is taking some strain off the touch then it will be more
apparent in standalone mode ?
Can someone else test this to make sure it's not just my ears playing
tricks on me!
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Squeezebox touch
Arcam A85 amp
Sometimes there can an issue when the screen is disabled and you can't
check the server has started and not stopped.
Is there a way of doing this via winscp or squeezecommander etc ?
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Chord rumour speaker cable
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Folks.
If everything would be that easy...
I'm well aware that there are massive EMI/RFI and noise respectively
serious grounding issues in private households. I'm a
telecommunications
engineer btw. You can read about that on my blog for more than a year
btw.
The first measure was to use
I do TCP/IP/socket programming at work (with CS/EE major). Network
throughput can cause buffering logic to churn and put different loads
on the CPU. This might have either powersupply or network chip related
interference in the SB. When it comes to sound, some people have keen
hearing and the
Stilly77;669104 Wrote:
That one ranks up there with the jitter arguement!
I suppose a cd with fried chicken grease would sound different after a
good cleaning :)
My cd's are pristine..usually in and out of the machine.
I used to spin vinyl and don't miss that debacle.
Since
On 11 Nov 2011, at 14:30, RadioClash wrote:
Did you guys really have to wake up that sleeping monster, Phil Leigh?
It was so peaceful.
Yes, but so much less fun.
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SoftwireEngineer;669363 Wrote:
Since I am a vegetarian I have tried other kinds of grease (optrix,
auric illuminator, mikrosmooth )and IME they do sound different :-)
I know it is controversial .. feel free to have a laugh
:)
it's no more ridiculous than many of the other claims made here,
Stilly77;669108 Wrote:
I will and thanks for the feedback Guidobesides the Touch, I have
two SB'3 and various laptop's / PC's so having a external DAC (my first
one) will be interesting.
What's your feeling on optical cables? Plastic, glass ???
For years I assumed that coax was the
Klaus,
I remember back when I crimped ethernet cables by hand, I would just
peel the sheilding back not terminate it--
in prebuilt cables, are the sheilds tied to one of the pins? or how
does that work?
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Stilly77;669386
I also support debate. However I am not really sure what debate there
really is to have. It seems that the basic fact is understood that
there is no such thing as tc/ip jitter in the sense that there is spdif
jitter and that any effect would have to work via loading the touch
jeff flowerday;669269 Wrote:
attention starved? He brings up valid points about networking,
unfortunately it's taken personal when it shouldn't.
I say keep up the debate in this thread it's healthy.
+2
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Phil Leigh;669252 Wrote:
Is sleeping giant a term of endearment? :-)
Sorry to spoil everyone's love-in...
However, last time I looked this was a FORUM and therefore we are
allowed to have differing views and opinions.
No worries Phil. I like you more than I hate you. :)
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cut-throat;669424 Wrote:
attention starved? He brings up valid points about networking,
unfortunately it's taken personal when it shouldn't.
I say keep up the debate in this thread it's healthy.+2
+3
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guidof;669401 Wrote:
For years I assumed that coax was the way to go. Then I read Phil
Leigh's post in which he questioned that conventional wisdom. So I
thought I would give Toslink a chance. I first tried an Amazon Basic
optical cable(about $8). I didn't expect much, but I was astonished
adamdea;669408 Wrote:
None of this takes away from klaus' pioneering work for which I am very
grateful.
me tooKlaus hasn't ever put a gun to anyone's head demanding to use
his mod's or else
The process is so easy and reversible, everyone can make a choice
rather easily as to what
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