Owen Smith;698251 Wrote:
I've been having that argument over on AVForums in the Oppo 95 EU forum.
Apparently dbpoweramp sucks and EAC is much better, even if they both
report accurate rip and produce identical files the EAC one will sound
*SOOO* much better and I must be insane to be using
garym;698306 Wrote:
yep, pure insanity. I hate those sort of forums where myths become
truth. The inmates are in charge of the asylum and sane folks are
treated as crazy. Unfortunately, some of that is creeping in around
here...
The moderators don't want to do anything about it, so the way
praganj;698232 Wrote:
Has anybody tried TT 3.0 with the new 7.7.2 LMS and newest 7.7.2 SBT
firmware version ?
Has anyone tried the workaround for factory reset that worked for the
7.7.1 update?
That is:
1) From the SBT console: tt -r
2) Reboot
3) Install update via SBT screen menu
4) From
Soulkeeper;698308 Wrote:
... Other than that, it seems we'll just have to let them flop around in
their magic wonderland of objective subjectivity (or was it the other
way around), on this forum too. You can lead a brain to thought, but
you can't make it think.
The catch is with 7 billion
Me, I'm saving up to buy a few $500/m USB cables... :-)
eric
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magiccarpetride;697922 Wrote:
Were you able to hear those differences, or merely measure them?
Merely measure them. Could not hear any difference - I did try - even
with my super wonderful headphones!
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magiccarpetride;697908 Wrote:
I'd be curious: are you claiming that there is a scientifically based
set of tools that can create optimal speaker placement in one's room?
Really? Is there a link? How much does it cost? Why are state of the
art audio dealerships not using it, instead of
magiccarpetride;697915 Wrote:
I must say that you raise a good point here. Maybe that's exactly the
case here? Could it be that by tinkering with the priorities and
tasklets, we are in effect 'ameliorating' the bitstream, meaning adding
signal that was never present on the original
Ok, PM me when you've got the money. I've got some nylon hose from an
old PSU, and some copper tape leftovers after shielding my Telecaster.
I reckon I can use all that (and some gaffa tape) to make any old set
of USB cables look just terrific. And very, very audiophile-y.
I'll even sell the
garym;698306 Wrote:
yep, pure insanity. I hate those sort of forums where myths become
truth. The inmates are in charge of the asylum and sane folks are
treated as crazy. Unfortunately, some of that is creeping in around
here...
I think that's in direct proportion to Logitech's future
DaveWr;698339 Wrote:
I think that's in direct proportion to Logitech's future direction, new
players, TVs or whatever. Mindgames expand to fill the dreadful
silence. It's the ultimate signal to noise ratio!
Dave
Logitech have a future direction for the Squeezebox? Can't say I'd
noticed.
I understanding and believe that the actual bitstream (1's and 0's)
cannot be altered.
As Phil has recently mentioned, there's the possibility that some of
the TT3.0 mods influence the inner workings of the Touch as relates to
what's coming out of the Touch's analog outputs. But that's not
SPDIF interface transmits data AND clock.
The question is what clock is used in the DAC when received data from
SPDIF is playing.
If DAC is in the slave mode and follows clock that is received via
SPDIF then there is some space for discussion about jitter (source
clock precision, cable quality,
Phil Leigh;698331 Wrote:
It is literally impossible to alter the data content of the bitstream in
any way by these mods. Sorry.
If that was happening, total cr@p could pour out of the speakers
like deafening static which could shred your speakers in
milliseconds.
You can't alter the
Owen Smith;698342 Wrote:
Logitech have a future direction for the Squeezebox? Can't say I'd
noticed.
he didn't actually reference Squeezebox in terms of logitech's future.
But that's a different thread
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Phil Leigh;698328 Wrote:
There's loads of pro level software that can do this in conjunction with
measurement mics.
All pro recording/production studios are designed+tweaked using these
tools.
Links? What's the ballpark price tag we're talking? I sure could use
such utilities, provided
Phil Leigh;698326 Wrote:
Merely measure them. Could not hear any difference - I did try - even
with my super wonderful headphones!
I can't recall -- did you also perform measurements for the digital
outs? And if yes, what are the measurement results?
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rgro;698343 Wrote:
If people are merely using the Touch as a digital transport---connected
to a dac via coax or toslinkis there an explanation, other than the
much-discussed jitter question, for why there are such a number of
people here that seem to hear differences with the TT 3.0
magiccarpetride;698373 Wrote:
I don't know the answer to your question. But I'd like to, if I may, add
another question, which may tie in nicely with what you're asking:
Is there a rationally explainable reason why Squeezebox Duet, when
feeding digital signal via digital coax into my DAC,
TheOctavist;692595 Wrote:
here
http://www.realtraps.com/art_room-setup.htm
http://www.tnt-audio.com/casse/waspe.html
http://www.audioasylum.com/audio/faq/audiophysic.html
http://www.cardas.com/content.php?area=insightscontent_id=26pagestring
http://gikacoustics.com/room_setup.php
Phil Leigh;698379 Wrote:
The Touch has a very different spdif circuit to the Duet and provides a
cleaner signal to a connected DAC.
Now I'm even more confused. What do you mean by 'cleaner signal'?
Cleaner than what?
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Bytec;698352 Wrote:
In case of digital transport Touch Toolbox mods will not have any
positive effects, but there is always a possibility to brake things and
ruin your Logitech SB user experience (turning off display, IR, etc.
Thank you, Bytec. Would this, then be the general consensus of
Hi,
My SBT with TT3 and volume mod enabled sounds louder when played from
my NAS than from W7. Any idea how it is possible?
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magiccarpetride;698392 Wrote:
Now I'm even more confused. What do you mean by 'cleaner signal'?
Cleaner than what?
(in very simple terms) SPDIF is an analogue signal that represents the
data (the bitstream) in an encoded format including an embedded clock
signal. like all signals it can be
evdplancke;698434 Wrote:
Hi,
My SBT with TT3 and volume mod enabled sounds louder when played from
my NAS than from W7. Any idea how it is possible?
Check the audio setting on both Lms for whether replay gain values are
being used in playback.
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magiccarpetride;698370 Wrote:
I can't recall -- did you also perform measurements for the digital
outs? And if yes, what are the measurement results?
Yes I did measure it but I did not publish the results because I did
not have time to go to the same lengths of precision and repetition as
for
Phil Leigh;698438 Wrote:
(in very simple terms) SPDIF is an analogue signal that represents the
data (the bitstream) in an encoded format including an embedded clock
signal. like all signals it can be clean or dirty (contain noise and
distortion). The dirtiier that signal is, the harder the
Bytec;698352 Wrote:
In case of digital transport Touch Toolbox mods will not have any
positive effects, but there is always a possibility to brake things and
ruin your Logitech SB user experience (turning off display, IR, etc).
True. My iPhone ran out of battery juice, and because I had the
Phil Leigh;698331 Wrote:
It is literally impossible to alter the data content of the bitstream in
any way by these mods. Sorry.
If that was happening, total cr@p could pour out of the speakers
like deafening static which could shred your speakers in
milliseconds.
You can't alter the
To reset do I choose restore defaults or is there a button to push on
the touch?
J
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jmschnur;698460 Wrote:
To reset do I choose restore defaults or is there a button to push on
the touch?
J
Restore defaults and a reboot avoids the need to push the rest button.
But only if you are going from 7.7.0 or 7.7.1 to 7.7.2, otherwise its
probably wise to do a factory reset by
Thanks , is to 4.0 coming or should I reinstall 3.0 after I reset.
J
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