Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread ralphpnj
tpaxadpom wrote: Thank but I may want to hang out here for a little while, I have my doubts :o. BTW did you ever A/B transporter and touch with single ended cables in your system (volume matched or not)? Did you hear any difference? I once did a very informal A/B test of the Transporter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread Jeff52
ralphpnj wrote: I once did a very informal A/B test of the Transporter with balanced cables versus the Touch with RCA cables. I found the sound of the analog outputs of the Touch to be very good although not quite as good as that of the Transporter. Since, as I said, the test was very

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread ralphpnj
Jeff52 wrote: Gee Ralph with that kind of a test, how could you form any conclusion? I thought you were the resident keeper of the Holy Grail of objectivity, but maybe you have changed. :) Which is exactly why I clearly stated that it was a very informal test. The reasons for the lack of a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread Mnyb
Jeff52 wrote: Gee Ralph with that kind of a test, how could you form any conclusion? I thought you were the resident keeper of the Holy Grail of objectivity, but maybe you have changed. :) He he there is a milewide difference informally trying stuff vs telling the whole world that you know

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: He he there is a milewide difference informally trying stuff vs telling the whole world that you know the truth of these things using these methods. Like Raplphy put it ,as the clowns do it . Another way to put it is that the error term in a TAS tests is magnitudes larger

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread garym
ralphpnj wrote: Now I have to come up a nice phrase for which CLOWNS is an acronym. I have the end, With No Science, now I just need the C-L-O part. How about Carefully Laid Obfuscation With No Science? Any other suggestions? I think this nails it.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread Jeff52
Lighten up Ralph, I was just having a little fun with you and knew you weren't conducting a test. I just connected a Wal-Mart two-prong 16 gauge extension cord to my amp and I could tell a difference. The sound seemed to open up, but it wasn't a test, just an informal comparison. :)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread ralphpnj
Jeff52 wrote: Lighten up Ralph, I was just having a little fun with you and knew you weren't conducting a test. I just connected a Wal-Mart two-prong 16 gauge extension cord to my amp and I could tell a difference. The sound seemed to open up, but it wasn't a test, just an informal

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread Jeff52
ralphpnj wrote: Don't worry I wasn't upset however it was and is worthwhile to point out the differences between a real test and an informal comparison. By the way, what color and length extension chord are you using because different colors and lengths can both make a night and day

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] MEASUREMENTS: Some Squeezebox numbers to consider...

2013-02-28 Thread ralphpnj
Jeff52 wrote: No I'm not in Bratislava...that's a long story but I'm in the US. I'm currently using a generic brown six feet extension cord but I have a white one I might try too. I had not considered that the color might also influence the sound but that stands to reason as I have read a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What is the best top end player now ?

2013-02-28 Thread jh901
Playback Designs MPS-3: http://www.audiostream.com/content/playback-designs-mps-3-cd-player The founders, Tinn and particularly Koch, are no lightweights in digital. This would be a fantastic DAC for those of you looking to upgrade (assuming you don't require SACD).

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Oppo BDP-105 - Measurements up!

2013-02-28 Thread SoftwireEngineer
Archimago wrote: Anyhow, in March my day job is going to get a lot busier so I likely won't be around as much. I've got a couple other measurements I'd like to finish up on - adaptive vs. asynchronous USB through the same DAC is one... Speaking of companies taking an Oppo and modding