Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread cliveb
I don't know how old you are, Ralph. If you are fairly young, you may not have been around to witness some absolutely bonkers ideas that were kicking around in the early 1980s, and died out soon after (probably within a couple of years): - Adding extra sheets of paper between pages in books that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] What Would You Replace a Transporter With?

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Archimago wrote: It will be a sad day when my Transporter dies :-( On a related note, during the recent trouble/problems I was having upgrading from Squeezebox Server to Logitech Media Server I was not able to use any of my Squeezebox devices to stream my music library and it was hell. Sure I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
cliveb wrote: I don't know how old you are, Ralph. If you are fairly young, you may not have been around to witness some absolutely bonkers ideas that were kicking around in the early 1980s, and died out soon after (probably within a couple of years): - Adding extra sheets of paper

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Daverz
I'd be more impressed if Sony (now Sony/BMG) opened up their archive of DSD recordings. There are currently only 240 DSD downloads on Acoustic Sounds, and the majority are the usual Jazz classics. I might even pay the $25 for yet another version of -Time Out- just to satisfy my curiosity.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
Biwiring or even triwiring ? Main hifi: Touch + CIA PS +MeridianG68J MeridianHD621 MeridianG98DH 2 x MeridianDSP5200 MeridianDSP5200HC 2 xMeridianDSP3100 +Rel Stadium 3 sub. Bedroom/Office: Boom Kitchen: Touch + powered

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: Biwiring or even triwiring ? Bi-wiring is okay if one is bi-amping. Bi-amping at least makes some sense from a scientific and engineering standpoint, that is if one is using two different amps, with one amp optimized for low frequencies and the other optimized for mid and high

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Wombat
Daverz wrote: I'd be more impressed if Sony (now Sony/BMG) opened up their archive of DSD recordings. There are currently only 240 DSD downloads on Acoustic Sounds, and the majority are the usual Jazz classics. I might even pay the $25 for yet another version of -Time Out- just to satisfy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: Bi-wiring is okay if one is bi-amping. Bi-amping at least makes some sense from a scientific and engineering standpoint, that is if one is using two different amps, with one amp optimized for low frequencies and the other optimized for mid and high frequencies. Which is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Daverz wrote: I'd be more impressed if Sony (now Sony/BMG) opened up their archive of DSD recordings. There are currently only 240 DSD downloads on Acoustic Sounds, and the majority are the usual Jazz classics. I might even pay the $25 for yet another version of -Time Out- just to satisfy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: Yes but that's rarely the case :) just sells more speaker cable and prevents the use of serial fillters and makes speakers more expensive due to more binding post . Speaking about those , hearing different sound from different metals anyone ? And yes even hearing differences

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
Daverz wrote: I'd be more impressed if Sony (now Sony/BMG) opened up their archive of DSD recordings. There are currently only 240 DSD downloads on Acoustic Sounds, and the majority are the usual Jazz classics. I might even pay the $25 for yet another version of -Time Out- just to satisfy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: And what about one of your favorites: nos versus oversampling DACs That's a subset of the tech nostalgia trend , if a part or technology gets old enough it's better . Back in the days people could not wait to get rid of tubes/vinyl/16bit multi bit DAC's/ insert something .

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Just think now there is yet another version of Miles Davis' Kind of Blue available - the DSD version available from Acoustic Sounds: http://store.acousticsounds.com/d/95103/Miles_Davis-Kind_of_Blue-DSD_Download I'm sure that we will soon see DSD versions for all the usual audiophile dreck,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
O I forgot the really hardcore audiophiles despise for digital ! In favor of vinyl . The best digital always sounded very close to to good vinyl ,but never really as good ;) for ages . If the debate had been between digital vs analog it may had some merit in the early days . But it was really

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: O I forgot the really hardcore audiophiles despise for digital ! In favor of vinyl . The best digital always sounded very close to to good vinyl ,but never really as good ;) for ages . If the debate had been between digital vs analog it may had some merit in the early days

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Daverz
Wombat wrote: You should realize IF one of these older classics suddenly come out again sounding much better this won't be because of some magic dsd transfer cababilities but serious remastering. This pretty most likely will not happen in pure dsd domain. That's probably true, but I admit

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
ralphpnj wrote: Let's not reopen that old digital versus analog debate. Early digital recordings did not sound as good as analog but that ship sailed many years ago. Present day digital sounds at least as good as present day analog. Besides which, digital is a much better storage medium than

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
Just wishing they could document the pedigree of thier recordings a little better . Especially the analog side if doing an old recording tape does not always age well . So given a good 15 year old digital transfer of a cherished analog gem . Vs a new as good as it gets Digitla transfer , its no

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Mnyb wrote: Yea I did not say that , early digital could be problematic especially the learning curve for the audio engineers , but it never was as bad as vinyl . Vinyl is not equal to analog but it easy to confuse them . There is actually a modern analog ( pun intended ) I've never

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Wombat
Daverz wrote: That's probably true, but I admit to a fetish for having things in their original format if available. If the DSD version is better sounding because of more careful mastering, I don't see that the format matters much, apart from the premium surcharge (I also admit to being a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Apesbrain
ralphpnj wrote: Sure it's dreck but it's DSD ...and soon DSD128, DSD256 and DSD512 (which is practically indistinguishable from vinyl, I'm told). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital#Double-rate_DSD

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread ralphpnj
Apesbrain wrote: ...and soon DSD128, DSD256 and DSD512 (which is practically indistinguishable from vinyl, I'm told). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital#Double-rate_DSD Does the jump from DSD256 to DSD512 somehow introduce wow, flutter, surface noise, pops and clicks into

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] TAS Reviews new Sony HAP-Z1ES player

2014-02-27 Thread Mnyb
Apesbrain wrote: ...and soon DSD128, DSD256 and DSD512 (which is practically indistinguishable from vinyl, I'm told). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_Stream_Digital#Double-rate_DSD ..and 20 dB channel separation a a dose of thd and IM to emulator the pickup phase anomaliens innerörat

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Audiophile Buzzwords, Fads, Crazes, Hypes and other Quantum Matters

2014-02-27 Thread Archimago
Greening the edge of CD's was all the rage around the time I first got some $$$ to buy audio stuff. Start date: ~1990 Reason for the buzz: Some vague theory about stray red laser light bouncing around the polycarbonate. An article in ICE (International CD Exchange) apparently. Green supposed to