Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread Julf
drmatt wrote: > Believe me, I've been an escalation point for an outsourced technical > organisation... Ouch! You have my sympathies. And point taken... "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will bear a solid

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread drmatt
Julf wrote: > I think it is a great idea, but I doubt it will help. The reason some of > us old farts have been exposed to that same "innocent ignorance" for a > very long time. If you try the soft approach for 10 years, and see it > doesn't work, you realize that you will never change the mind

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread Julf
drmatt wrote: > Make it part of the FAQ. A sticky thread at the top of the forum. > Whatever. I think it is a great idea, but I doubt it will help. The reason some of us old farts have been exposed to that same "innocent ignorance" for a very long time. If you try the soft approach for 10

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread drmatt
I don't see any of that, I see ignorance (in the innocent, non derogatory sense), followed by snidey in jokes and comments implying the OP is thick, which causes automatic defensive mode, which causes the perception that people don't want to listenand escalation to flame war. If the first

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread d6jg
drmatt wrote: > So there you go, misunderstandings everywhere... ;) > > Calm down and educate instead of berating. I really shouldn't come down here. I always get wound up by at least one thread featuring either Arrogant Stupidity or Stupid Arrogancy - one of the two. End. *Vortexbox LMS

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread drmatt
So there you go, misunderstandings everywhere... ;) Calm down and educate instead of berating. drmatt's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=59498 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread d6jg
drmatt wrote: > The point that was missed here was simple: *why* were we talking about > how an SBT performs with LMS stopped while it drains its buffer. That is > nothing to do with ignorance, wilful or otherwise, that is > straightforward misreading. I didn't misread it. You (collectively)

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread drmatt
Julf wrote: > What deeper meaning is there in misinformation based on ignorance? The point that was missed here was simple: *why* were we talking about how an SBT performs with LMS stopped while it drains its buffer. That is nothing to do with ignorance, wilful or otherwise, that is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread bernt
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread bernt
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Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-06 Thread Julf
drmatt wrote: > misunderstanding the deeper meaning that is not fully communicated on > the page. What deeper meaning is there in misinformation based on ignorance? "To try to judge the real from the false will always be hard. In this fast-growing art of 'high fidelity' the quackery will

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread drmatt
Mnyb wrote: > Note that I sugested "pull the plug and listen to the player buffer" as > a way to actually understand how little the server does vs SQ . Not as > a serius sugestion . I knew that, because I wasn't angry when I read your post. But angry people don't read what was written, or at

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread Mnyb
drmatt wrote: > So in other words you are venting your spleen. Good for you. Welcome to > the playground. :) +1 Note that I sugested "pull the plug and listen to the player buffer" as a way to actually understand how little the server does vs SQ . Not as a serius sugestion . ( hint it sounds

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread d6jg
My question is aimed at those down here in the cellar that have the ability to interpret 1s and 0s differently to everyone else because they can apparently hear what can't possibly be there better than the rest of us. I will accept that my DAC and everything after that in the chain can influence

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread Apesbrain
d6jg wrote: > You are taking my question literally - and I thank you for the answer - > but the question is not intended literally. OK, you got me! Apesbrain's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=738

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread d6jg
Apesbrain wrote: > Not sure if I'm addressing your question but I've noticed when I > attenuate the space between tracks on a digitized LP it sounds too > "black". I usually just do a brief fade in the half-second before the > next track. You are taking my question literally - and I thank you

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread Apesbrain
Not sure if I'm addressing your question but I've noticed when I attenuate the space between tracks on a digitized LP it sounds too "black". I usually just do a brief fade in the half-second before the next track.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread d6jg
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[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Analogue or Digital?

2016-12-05 Thread d6jg
If I digitised - note that is a UK digitisation not the sort practiced in the USA or other places where they only think they can speak or write English - a vinyl record to FLAC do you think that if left unprocessed by fancy dancy software would a period of silence "recorded" in this way sound