I've had good results with DH Labs' 75 ohm cable (called D-75). You can
order it many place pre-terminated, or in bulk from Parts Connexion and
DIY. Be sure to order the corresponding 75 ohm connectors. It's a
great cable for a great price and it's easy to terminate:
My general policy on cables is to come up with a really good reason why
well terminated decent cables won't do the job. When I can't, I buy
http://www.bluejeanscable.com/store/digital-audio/index.htm
They are cheap and work. Spending loads and trying to listen for the
difference will only make
mvalera;223740 Wrote:
Maybe I'm asking a dumb question... but how can you pick up radio
frequeny - electromagnetic interference on an optical cable using light
to transmit the data?
I don't know - perhaps you just can't. :)
But the original Q was about coax SPDIF, not Toslink.
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325xi
Pat Farrell;223749 Wrote:
... But if the DAC is properly isolating the Digital from the Analog
side,
you should have a problem. The 172Kb/s on off stream doesn't modulate
into anything audible by humans.
Hmm... We're talking digital signal, right? Can EMI/RF smear the edges
and thus
adamslim;223890 Wrote:
My general policy on cables is to come up with a really good reason why
well terminated decent cables won't do the job.
That's discussed to death in lamp cord threads - not all cables are
manufactured to specification, and not all wire manufacturers offer
consistent
325xi wrote:
Pat Farrell;223749 Wrote:
... But if the DAC is properly isolating the Digital from the Analog
side,
you should have a problem. The 172Kb/s on off stream doesn't modulate
into anything audible by humans.
Hmm... We're talking digital signal, right? Can EMI/RF smear the edges
Pat Farrell;223925 Wrote:
If jitter is a problem with your target DAC.
Pat Farrell;223925 Wrote:
Because things like Benchmarks and Larvys are not going to notice, but
they cost a grand.
First, with Lavry people reported here that sound varies with different
sources. We all also know
True 75 ohm cable, with very high quality Mil Spec wire, sounds great.
Why not try it and some others cables?? Best way to know what sounds
the best is to listen. Although I realize that isn't always the
prefered method around here. http://www.fatwyre.com
325xi;223726 Wrote:
Why to pay $150?
With all my due respect, this is a marketing BS. When I asked why I
asked for technical reasons.
As for listening to digital cables, it's like letting a blind man into
a maze, and trying to make rational decisions based on his movements.
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325xi
325xi;223922 Wrote:
That's discussed to death in lamp cord threads - not all cables are
manufactured to specification, and not all wire manufacturers offer
consistent quality from batch to batch.
I didn't suggest lamp cord - the Blue Jeans cables are good quality
wire, the correct
adamslim;223992 Wrote:
I didn't suggest lamp cord
My apologies if I was unclear - I by no means called Blue Jeans a lamp
cord. I'm not sure they are perfect for analog conections (it's just
I'm not convinced that cable geometry doesn't matter at all, and what
they offer is very straight
pfarrel is right an rca plug cannot be 75ohm its a design thing ...I
don't know if the canare is close or notbut as said its to do with
the diameter and size of the central conductor ..I can't see who they
have managed it
I've put up a simple diy recipe that will outperform all but the
I've only tried, the three chord's, a Cardas and a VDH andoh can't
remember the others, still I settled with the Chord digi Signature love
it :D
VDH did nothing for my kit or ears, Cardas was wonderfully warm,
detailed and relaxing, Chord Sig bit more of a wake up call :)
Try your favorite
Some time ago I decided I won't pay premium price for cables anymore -
unless I know it is technically justified, which didn't happen to me
yet - so Au is out. Too bad I didn't try it before. :)
Now, what about RF/EMI and shielding? All BS, or there's something in
that?
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325xi
jhm731;223532 Wrote:
Take a look at Audience's Conductor cables:
http://www.audience-av.com/cables/c_description.php
Thanks for the link. There's some entertaining reading there,
particularly this:
http://www.audience-av.com/powerchord/
To the OP, I would recommend bluejeans cables.
Just for the couriosity.
http://www.venhaus1.com/diycatfivecables.html
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eiret
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Stereovox XV2, a true giant killer.
http://www.signals-superfi.com/stereovox/index.html
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0706/stereovox_xv2.htm
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ErikM
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ErikM;223725 Wrote:
Stereovox XV2, a true giant killer.
http://www.signals-superfi.com/stereovox/index.html
http://www.enjoythemusic.com/magazine/equipment/0706/stereovox_xv2.htm
Why to pay $150? I don't mind if it makes sense, so... anything special
about this cable?
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325xi
Maybe I'm asking a dumb question... but how can you pick up radio
frequeny - electromagnetic interference on an optical cable using light
to transmit the data?
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mvalera
Michael Valera
Online Communities Manager
Logitech Streaming Media Systems
slimdevices.com
Oops sorry! You're referring to the coax version. I always forget that
spdif is either optical or coax. :p
Mike
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mvalera
Michael Valera
Online Communities Manager
Logitech Streaming Media Systems
slimdevices.com
mvalera wrote:
mvalera wrote:
Maybe I'm asking a dumb question... but how can you pick up radio
frequency - electromagnetic interference on an optical cable using light
to transmit the data?
Oops sorry! You're referring to the coax version. I always forget that
spdif is either optical or
I'll need SPDIF cable soon, and I'm curious which one to pick.
Although they are fairly simple devices with well defined
specifications, I see two potential pitfalls in them.
First, if the manufacturer targets mass market, to keep costs low he
may allow way too high deviation from
325xi wrote:
I'll need SPDIF cable soon, and I'm curious which one to pick.
(Sony/Philips Digital InterFace) A serial interface for transferring
digital audio from CD and DVD players to amplifiers and TVs. S/PDIF is
typically used to transmit PCM and Dolby Digital 5.1, but is not tied to
any
Pat Farrell;223475 Wrote:
325xi wrote:
I'll need SPDIF cable soon, and I'm curious which one to pick.
(Sony/Philips Digital InterFace) A serial interface for transferring
digital audio from CD and DVD players to amplifiers and TVs. S/PDIF is
typically used to transmit PCM and Dolby
325xi wrote:
I'm really wondering if you have read the rest of my post - or just the
first line?..
Wondering? i doubt it.
Yes, but with your attitude, I can stop, maybe even fire up the kill file.
Spend what you want, its a low end consumer interface.
Buy two different ones, spend $5 each
Right, and ALL cables with labeled SPDIF are exactly 75 Ohm and ALL of
them manufactured up to highest standards. Sure.
You're good at killing threads. If you believe that all cables are the
same indeed - why bother to answer?
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325xi
325xi;223467 Wrote:
Second, RF/EMI shielding can vary between the brands, and there were
some experiments where SPDIF cable picked lots of noise which caused
DAC to get crazy, and some DIY shielding resolved it. So this is
potential issue to look for.
What do you guys think - how to know
325xi wrote:
Right, and ALL cables with labeled SPDIF are exactly 75 Ohm and ALL of
them manufactured up to highest standards. Sure.
No cable with RCAs is close to 75 ohm.
Can't be done. If you care about the impedance, you have to use BNC.
I am not claiming that all cables are identical. Not
Pat Farrell;223490 Wrote:
325xi wrote:
Right, and ALL cables with labeled SPDIF are exactly 75 Ohm and ALL
of
them manufactured up to highest standards. Sure.
No cable with RCAs is close to 75 ohm.
Can't be done. If you care about the impedance, you have to use BNC.
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Hi Pat,
mftech wrote:
Hi Pat, I'm not sure about your affirmation about connector impedance
but Canare manufacture an excellent RCA connector for video and digital
audio purpose.
Yes, Canare makes good stuff.
As does another professional vendor: Mogami
http://www.mogamicable.com/
This RCA connector
I mean adequate for video and digital application,
I used both the RCA Canara and the Belden 1694A in a profession setup
to interface a DVD Spdif Output to a 32 X 32 AES Routing switcher.
I totally agree with you Pat, RCA connector are not the best for inter
connecting video and audio
Take a look at Audience's Conductor cables:
http://www.audience-av.com/cables/c_description.php
325xi;223467 Wrote:
I'll need SPDIF cable soon, and I'm curious which one to pick.
Although they are fairly simple devices with well defined
specifications, I see two potential pitfalls in
mftech wrote:
I mean adequate for video and digital application,
Oh no, not adequate, this the audiophile forum, it has to be extra special.
Of course, S/PDIF is for signaling two channel audio,
which needs to move a bit more than 172 Kbytes/second, and video signals
for plain old TV need
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