azinck3;189383 Wrote:
True, but let's attempt to draw a distinction between audio improvement
and the listening experience.
I'm not sure there's any point in that. AFIACS the sole purpose of any
'audio improvement' is to enhance the listening experience.
Whilst I don't condone any snake
Robin Bowes;189377 Wrote:
Sure, but the point the objectivists make (ad nauseum) is that the
mind
is very powerful and can make you 'hear' things that don't exist. Sure, but
since you hear (music) with your mind as much as with your
ears, where does objectivity stop and subjectivity
Patrick Dixon;189439 Wrote:
I'm not sure there's any point in that. AFIACS the sole purpose of any
'audio improvement' is to enhance the listening experience.
Whilst I don't condone any snake oil stuff,
Then we agree. Yet many of those snake oil products make claims to
improve the
Patrick Dixon wrote:
Robin Bowes;189377 Wrote:
Sure, but the point the objectivists make (ad nauseum) is that the
mind is very powerful and can make you 'hear' things that don't
exist.
Sure, but since you hear (music) with your mind as much as with your
ears, where does objectivity stop
Patrick Dixon wrote:
The internet's a great tool, but it can only get you so far. Reality
is out there ... somewhere.
Absolutely!
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wdrazek;189395 Wrote:
This thread has nothing to do with the OP. Can't this obj/subj argument
be dropped just once? It's made this a dull forum and detracts from the
information exchange that it could be.
Flame on.
Is a forum not dull if everyone pats you on the back for hearing
Skunk;189503 Wrote:
Is a forum not dull if everyone pats you on the back for hearing
subjective differences? There are plenty of those..
Dear Forum;
just wanted to write to let you all know my power supply has finally
broken in after the recommended 1,000 hours. The soundstage depth
I don't know why do you guys still care about the power supply,
considering all the regulators in the box, as Sean pointed out long
ago, pretty much isolate it from the outside. I also don't understand
why so far no one suggested the best performing isolation platform for
SB - it desperately
325xi wrote:
I don't know why do you guys still care about the power supply,
considering all the regulators in the box, as Sean pointed out long
ago, pretty much isolate it from the outside.
I guess it's because people have observed (heard) a difference when
changing to a better quality
325xi;189521 Wrote:
I don't know why do you guys still care about the power supply,
considering all the regulators in the box, as Sean pointed out long
ago, pretty much isolate it from the outside. I also don't understand
why so far no one suggested the best performing isolation platform for
jeffmeh;189553 Wrote:
The most plausible hypothesis as to why a linear, regulated power supply
could improve the audio is that the electromagnetic interference (of the
stock switching supply) can negatively affect other components that are
not as well isolated as the SB itself.
Well the
So, what's the bottom line to all this? Has it ever been tested in ABX
whether power supply influences the sound?
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The sound stage will open up, bass will tighten and the imaging will
improve. DVD performance will also increase substantially.
slimkid;189573 Wrote:
Has it ever been tested in ABX whether power supply influences the
sound?
The cost of setting up a test that would prove such a thing to a
convinced subjectivist would be astronomical, due to the equipment and
testing panel required. I.e. there is not enough money in the
Skunk;189594 Wrote:
The cost of setting up a test that would prove such a thing to a
convinced subjectivist would be astronomical, due to the equipment and
testing panel required. I.e. there is not enough money in the world...
A _single_ person being able to detect a difference in an ABX
seanadams;189606 Wrote:
A _single_ person being able to detect a difference in an ABX test would
be 100% proof that there is a difference.
Oops.
Somehow I managed to get a B in statistics, but only due to the psych
prereq version, and a usually drunk professor.
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Skunk
95bcwh;189108 Wrote:
LOL!!! Poor Markhh2, your post will not be well-received by some of the
members of this forum.
Yes...those members who insist on trashing others' experience of what
their ears hear! Even that would be OK if it were not repeated
endlessly like a broken record. :rolls
JohnnyLightOn wrote:
95bcwh;189108 Wrote:
LOL!!! Poor Markhh2, your post will not be well-received by some of the
members of this forum.
Yes...those members who insist on trashing others' experience of what
their ears hear!
troll mode on
Or what they *think* they hear.
;)
R.
Robin Bowes;189364 Wrote:
troll mode on
Or what they *think* they hear.
Surely what you 'think' you hear is actually 'what you hear'?
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Patrick Dixon wrote:
Robin Bowes;189364 Wrote:
troll mode on
Or what they *think* they hear.
Surely what you 'think' you hear is actually 'what you hear'?
Sure, but the point the objectivists make (ad nauseum) is that the mind
is very powerful and can make you 'hear' things that don't exist.
Patrick Dixon;189369 Wrote:
Surely what you 'think' you hear is actually 'what you hear'?
True, but let's attempt to draw a distinction between audio improvement
and the listening experience.
While there's room for subjectivism, most genuine audio
improvements/differences can be measured
This thread has nothing to do with the OP. Can't this obj/subj argument
be dropped just once? It's made this a dull forum and detracts from the
information exchange that it could be.
Flame on.
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Poor Markhh2. I guess he has been driven off because he posted his
personal experience which happens to contradicts most of the Boy Scouts
in this tree house.
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ErikM;188827 Wrote:
Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the
Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds
the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00...
LOL!!! Poor Markhh2, your post will not be well-received by some of
Phil Leigh;188623 Wrote:
Hmmm...funny how break-in NEVER makes things sound worse...
how do you mean 'never'? for example, brand new car has a life
expectancy, say 250K Km. That same car, after being properly broken in,
after 20 000 Km, has now a life expectancy of 230K Km. So, new was
better
That's interesting...the first few miles or so the car is breaking
in...after that, it's breaking down :o)
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Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the
Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds
the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00...
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ErikM's
If you have a good DAC you are wasting money with the mods, IMO, they
made no difference in my system. The anolog mods do improve the sound
but not as much as a good DAC.
Stock SB with elpac into Lavry DAC10 or comparable will rival pretty
much anything out there.
If you want to spend more,
ErikM;188827 Wrote:
Markhh2, sorry but you posted to the wrong forum. This is the
Anti-Audiophile forum where break in doesn't exist and eveything sounds
the same FWIW the digital mod is a nice improvement for $200.00...
LOL - however actually I was wrong...after the initial euphoria of
Got my Bolder Cable modded WM 220 the other day and so far I am very
impressed. Found a used Elpac on Ebay for $29, had it shipped to
Bolder and within 10 days had my new power supply. The improvements in
my system (SB3Bel Canto DAC2ARC LS15ARV100.2Harbeth C7)were quiet
noticeable - deeper bass
Markhh2;188555 Wrote:
So far, I'm very impressed, especially for the $.
What if break in makes it worse? I.e. I'm not sure how such a poorly
understood phenomenon could be predicted accurately.
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Skunk's
Skunk;188589 Wrote:
What if break in makes it worse? I.e. I'm not sure how such a poorly
understood phenomenon could be predicted accurately.
Hmmm...funny how break-in NEVER makes things sound worse...
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