Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-16 Thread stop-spinning
Hmmm - I am trying to work out a solution that will allow me to stream music files from my PC upstairs over wireless and preferably without loss of audio quality - the SB Touch in terms of size and convenience would have fit the bill nicely. However, what about the new NAD DAC-1, that looks

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-16 Thread Soulkeeper
Somebody ought to set up a feature comparison table between the Touch and various other streamers like the NAD. Wouldn't the wiki be perfect for that? -- Soulkeeper Noise Music Silence Soulkeeper's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-16 Thread garym
stop-spinning;696100 Wrote: Hmmm - I am trying to work out a solution that will allow me to stream music files from my PC upstairs over wireless and preferably without loss of audio quality - the SB Touch in terms of size and convenience would have fit the bill nicely. However, what about

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-16 Thread guidof
stop-spinning;696100 Wrote: Hmmm - I am trying to work out a solution that will allow me to stream music files from my PC upstairs over wireless and preferably without loss of audio quality - the SB Touch in terms of size and convenience would have fit the bill nicely. However, what about

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-16 Thread aubuti
darrenyeats;695950 Wrote: About your comment about the integrity of the digital data - I agree but you mention it for ethernet and of course the comment applies equally to wifi. The question about wifi AND ethernet is about noise which might affect the player, not data. Point taken. Although

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-15 Thread darrenyeats
aubuti;695809 Wrote: Yes there's RFI everywhere, but some believe that the RFI is more damaging to SQ if one of the RFI sources (the Touch's antenna) is inside the same little box as the DAC, CPU, etc. Inverse square law and all that. As for directly connected to an electrically noisy

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-14 Thread probedb
stop-spinning;695608 Wrote: If this is the case, then why is wireless discouraged for sound quality reasons? Surely this the best way to isolate an electrically noisy computer source from the likes of a PC for example (assuming the simplicity of the SB Touch is much more electrically quieter

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-14 Thread JJZolx
stop-spinning;695608 Wrote: If this is the case, then why is wireless discouraged for sound quality reasons? 'RFI' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radio_frequency_interference) is the reason usually stated. Many audiophiles will not operate a wireless network in their homes for the same reason.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-14 Thread stop-spinning
Yes but there's RFI everywhere - one more wireless connection won't make a difference surely? Anyway - whats the lesser of two evils - directly connected to an electrically noisy computer - or RFI (which is all around us anyway)? -- stop-spinning

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-14 Thread aubuti
stop-spinning;695800 Wrote: Yes but there's RFI everywhere - one more wireless connection won't make a difference surely? Anyway - whats the lesser of two evils - directly connected to an electrically noisy computer - or RFI (which is all around us anyway)? Yes there's RFI everywhere, but

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-14 Thread Mnyb
Yes Ethernet is isolated current loops unless you opt for shielded cat 6 then you must take care but shielded Ethernet is total overkill at home , just don't use that . And switches isolates further . There migth be some capacitive leakage bla bla but that's clutching at straws audiophile style

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-13 Thread stop-spinning
So in essence the musical data should be copied perfectly over wireless to the SB Touch from the source (just like when you copy a hi-res photo or video file from one computer to another and the image is still all there when viewed from the target PC without any loss whatsoever). If this is the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-13 Thread w3wilkes
If you have a reliable wireless connection then there should be no difference in the sound quality of a wired connection. Bits are bits. If you have a bad wireless environment you could experience dropouts in the music from buffer underruns. -- w3wilkes 2 Duets - 1 for upstairs and 1 for

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-13 Thread Mnyb
stop-spinning;695608 Wrote: If this is the case, then why is wireless discouraged for sound quality reasons? . Yeah why , indeed ;) these are opinions from audiphiles the same people that can argues that digital cables in silver sounds better or use shakti stones and you read in on the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-13 Thread pippin
stop-spinning;695608 Wrote: If this is the case, then why is wireless discouraged for sound quality reasons? Surely this the best way to isolate an electrically noisy computer source from the likes of a PC for example (assuming the simplicity of the SB Touch is much more electrically

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-12 Thread stop-spinning
I am interested in how the wireless protocol works with a Squeezebox Touch (or Duet I guess for that matter)? I noticed when I used one some while back that there was a large buffer in the Duet - when I disconnected the wireless link to the computer - the Duet was playing for about 15 or so

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-12 Thread pippin
In every streaming system (digital) the music is first copied to the target, it's being delivered in packets. However, the SB doesn't have to wait for the full 15s buffer to fill, it can start to play as soon as the first decidable packet is there (depends on the codec) and will fill the buffer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Can anyone tell me how the wireless protocol works?

2012-03-12 Thread JJZolx
stop-spinning;695504 Wrote: I am interested in how the wireless protocol works with a Squeezebox Touch (or Duet I guess for that matter)? There is no 'wireless' protocol. The streaming protocol over the network is the same for both wired and wireless connections. I noticed when I used one