Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-07 Thread Dura
That was fast, 'this' (http://www.avrev.com/home-theater-power-amplifiers/integrated-amplifiers/nuforce-dda-100-integrated-amplifier-review-2.html) might be one of those very affordable amps I thought in the first post are inevitable offering sq for a very decent price. It wouldn't surprise me if

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-07 Thread Wombat
Now that is something simple and complete that will be selling well i bet. 500GB Hi-Res Music Player System, 2x40W HAPS1/B http://www.sony.co.uk/product/home-cinema-receivers/hap-s1/technical-specifications#tab Transporter (modded) - RG142 - Avantgarde Acoustic based 500VA monoblocks - Sommer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-05 Thread foxx
Yes and no. We would at least need som sort of digital switch in order to rout the various incoming signals to the active speakers. Otherwise we'd be left with tons on cables running into the speaker, which would ba definitive killer for me.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-05 Thread Mnyb
foxx wrote: Yes and no. We would at least need som sort of digital switch in order to rout the various incoming signals to the active speakers. Otherwise we'd be left with tons on cables running into the speaker, which would ba definitive killer for me. There are solutions for that ,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-05 Thread Mnyb
foxx wrote: Yes and no. We would at least need som sort of digital switch in order to rout the various incoming signals to the active speakers. Otherwise we'd be left with tons on cables running into the speaker, which would ba definitive killer for me. There are solutions for that ,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-04 Thread Mnyb
The logical endpiont is digital active speakers (actually has been since the early 90's but audiophiles are to darned conservative ) . :) but sadly still to few brands and price classes to make viable options for everyone :/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-09-03 Thread Daverz
I really like the idea of getting rid of the pre-amp and DAC, but there are a couple issues for me: * My Vandersteen Quatros require a 6 dB/octave high-pass filter between the pre-amp and amp. I can do the filter with sox, but I'd prefer to send a bit-perfect signal to the digital amp. * I like

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-08-31 Thread pablolie
Even though my current main setup is a pretty classic configuration kinda stuck in a 10 year old audio(phile) paradigm, it still sounds sweet. And yet, when I think about the next step, I would definitely go for a standalone DA I think. I believe in a component serving ONE purpose, more or less.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-08-27 Thread foxx
Dura, you are expressing what I and many other would consider a sensible approach. What we are seeing in realiy is quite a different picture though. The market for separate DACs is unbroken. And so called 'audiophiles' are jumping on every donkey's back that comes along. It is a simple fact that

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital amps like the C390Dd, the end of seperate amps and dacs?

2013-08-26 Thread Dura
I don't think I will ever buy a dac again.Or an amp. 2 months ago I replaced my Primare a30.1 integrated amp and Rega DAC (together with the van den Hul the first ultimate cables close to #8364;3500,- , the amp was 10 years old though) with the Dac/amp NAD C390DD (#8364;2500.- over here) and the

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-29 Thread DCtoDaylight
iPhone;238409 Wrote: a Class D amplifier merely converts an input waveform into a continuously pulse-width modulated (square wave) analog signal. The classic Class D amp design uses a continuously variable pulse width modulation, but I have seen some newer implementations which use discreet

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-27 Thread ar-t
Could be Bruno. Could be some other guys at some other company as well. Trust me, all of them get upset when you call them digital. Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-27 Thread iPhone
The letter D used to designate this amplifier class is simply the next letter after C, and does not stand for Digital. Class D and Class E amplifiers are sometimes mistakenly described as digital because the output waveform superficially resembles a pulse-train of digital symbols, but a Class D

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-27 Thread Pat Farrell
iPhone wrote: The letter D used to designate this amplifier class is simply the next letter after C, and does not stand for Digital. Thank you, it drives me nuts when folks think that there is meaning to the topology letters. Class A does not mean best etc. I think the future holds an

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-24 Thread TiredLegs
ar-t;237335 Wrote: The guys who hold the patents for some of the most popular Class D circuits get very angry when you call their design digital. Trust me Would that be the folks at Hypex? -- TiredLegs

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-23 Thread ar-t
The guys who hold the patents for some of the most popular Class D circuits get very angry when you call their design digital. Trust me Pat -- ar-t http://www.analogresearch-technology.net ar-t's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-23 Thread Timothy Stockman
DCtoDaylight;237203 Wrote: I guess it depends a bit on your definition of digital... I would argue that Class D amps are digital in their core, where they use discreet voltage level shifting to represent the analog signal, either on or off. This is a digital modulation of the power

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-22 Thread ar-t
dancemanster;236703 Wrote: It also has none of the problems of analog amps. No, just a whole bunch of problems that analog amps don't have. BTW..Class D amps are NOT digital. They are still analog, just with a different means of modulating the power supply. (Analog/linear amps are just

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-22 Thread mvalera
Speak for yourself... My real time compiler allows me to plug the Squeezebox's digital coax out directly into my cerebral cortex; matrix style. -- mvalera Michael Valera Online Communities Manager Logitech Streaming Media Systems slimdevices.com

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-21 Thread dancemanster
I new I couldn't be all alone. One thing that hinders my progress in educating myself is all of the acronyms. Is there a glossary somewhere that would define some or all of these cryptic terms? -- dancemanster

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-21 Thread DCtoDaylight
dancemanster;236814 Wrote: I new I couldn't be all alone. One thing that hinders my progress in educating myself is all of the acronyms. Is there a glossary somewhere that would define some or all of these cryptic terms? Ya, the acronyms and abreviations used in the electronics world can

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-20 Thread dancemanster
DAC,DAC,DAC. I know that serious audiophiles view analog as the one and only way to play music. Well, I know serious people (me included)who have gone full digital. My Panasonic SA-XR70 has no DAC at any stage. It also has none of the problems of analog amps. Do a little research. Sony has

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-20 Thread opaqueice
dancemanster;236703 Wrote: DAC,DAC,DAC. I know that serious audiophiles view analog as the one and only way to play music. Well, I know serious people (me included)who have gone full digital. My Panasonic SA-XR70 has no DAC at any stage. Strictly speaking, the whole thing is one big DAC

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-20 Thread DCtoDaylight
dancemanster;236703 Wrote: It also has none of the problems of analog amps. Lets see, your amp has distortion, just like an analog amp, it has limited bandwidth, just like an analog amp, it produces noise, just like an analog amp Class D amps do have some benefits, mostly in terms of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-20 Thread SuperQ
Digital amps are really cool.. however Class D doesn't always mean no DAC. If memory serves, the Panasonic units use the TI PurePath chips to do the PWM amplifications. I don't remember if these do the DAC functions internally or not. -- SuperQ

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Digital Amps

2007-10-20 Thread dancemanster
Sorry folks, i didn't mean to sound all uppity. My point was really about the fact that i wasn't seeing anything about digital amps. In trying to learn about my sb it seems to be all about connecting to a DAC. I am also learning about other things including my receiver/amp. As far as specs-i can