Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-23 Thread Andyoz
>From what I have read, Meridian appear to have put a lot of development effort into this product. The amps, DSP's and drivers appear to have been custom designed. I think that partially justifies the cost. I don't think a company like Meridian would release something that would sound terrible.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-23 Thread ncpl
Yes...it will. I think that Meridian are looking for the F80 to expand their customer base which is currently very much hi-fi enthusiast. I think that the gadget hungry, label conscious young folk will have a view, but, that may be quite different from the housewife who wants a nice radio for th

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-22 Thread Andyoz
Will be interesting what the concensus is when they start to shift a few units. -- Andyoz Andyoz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=4864 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.ph

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-22 Thread ncpl
I agree that the relationship is non-linear for sure and that we all should care deeply about performance. I'm not sure that I (or anyone) would say value is irrelevant at all. It's interesting to think that it's probably the SB at relatively low cost that gets us all to this forum anyway. I wo

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-22 Thread Andyoz
I was getting more at how non-linear the relationship between sound quality and cost can be with "audiophile" gear. At a hi-end hifi show, I once witnessed a designer from a small scale (new) speaker manufactuer discussing pricing with a dealer of a two-speaker system they were launching. They w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-22 Thread Andyoz
I was getting more at how non-linear the relationship between sound quality and cost can be with "audiophile" gear. At a hi-end hifi show, I once witnessed a designer from a small scale (new) speaker manufactuer discussing pricing with a dealer of a two-speaker system they were launching. They w

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-22 Thread Mike Anderson
ncpl;196780 Wrote: > I absolutely agree, but, Andyoz stated that the improved SQ is not worth > the extra cash. On a audiophile forum, that's a weird thing to say > IMHO. I don't get this, personally. I don't think being an audiophile means you don't care about how much something costs. To me

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-22 Thread ncpl
Mike Anderson;196668 Wrote: > Even if I had money to burn, I would at least want to listen to them to > see which one has better sound. I absolutely agree, but, Andyoz stated that the improved SQ is not worth the extra cash. On a audiophile forum, that's a weird thing to say IMHO. I just think

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-21 Thread Mark Lanctot
adamslim;196696 Wrote: > I think that's known as 'damning with faint praise' ;) But they advertise the Bose on TV! It must be good! :-) -- Mark Lanctot Mark Lanctot's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?u

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-21 Thread adamslim
Mike Anderson;196668 Wrote: > The Kaboom box costs much less than a Bose radio, but the sound quality > of the Kaboom blows the doors off a Bose (not to mention all the extra > features.) I think that's known as 'damning with faint praise' ;) Adam -- adamslim SB3 into Derek Shek d2, Shanlin

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-21 Thread Mike Anderson
ncpl;196618 Wrote: > Just ask yourself what you would be buying if you won the lottery > tonightKaboom or F80? Even if I had money to burn, I would at least want to listen to them to see which one has better sound. I don't buy into the assumption that "more expensive" = "better sound." Sure

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-21 Thread ncpl
...there is NO simple answer to that question. The simple answer is actually whatever you want it to be. Thankfully it's a horses for courses issue. Just ask yourself what you would be buying if you won the lottery tonightKaboom or F80? -- ncpl ---

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-21 Thread Andyoz
Mike Anderson;196568 Wrote: > My question is whether the improved sound quality is worth the extra > cash. The simple answer to that is NO But then again the audiophile market isn't really about value for money. -- Andyoz --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-20 Thread Mike Anderson
adamslim;196427 Wrote: > I have heard neither the Kaboom box nor the Meridian. I happily accept > your contention that the Kaboom box sounds great, but my experience > with hi-fi is that some expensive stuff can sound very good indeed (and > Meridian is usually very nice kit), and that cheaper s

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-20 Thread adamslim
Mike Anderson;196411 Wrote: > Have you actually heard one? (The Kaboom box, I mean.) I have heard neither the Kaboom box nor the Meridian. I happily accept your contention that the Kaboom box sounds great, but my experience with hi-fi is that some expensive stuff can sound very good indeed (and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-20 Thread Mike Anderson
adamslim;196339 Wrote: > Totally man. Like CD players - why buy a Wadia when you can get a Tesco > DVD player for £15 and play DVDs too! Like, duh!!! Have you actually heard one? (The Kaboom box, I mean.) -- Mike Anderson 'FREE RADICAL RADIO!' (http://nvo.com/cd) Hours of free radical MP

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-20 Thread opaqueice
adamslim;196339 Wrote: > Totally man. Like CD players - why buy a Wadia when you can get a Tesco > DVD player for £15 and play DVDs too! Like, duh!!! Good point! :-) -- opaqueice opaqueice's Profile: http://forums.slim

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-20 Thread adamslim
Mike Anderson;196300 Wrote: > The price is ridiculous. > > If you want a decent-sounding boombox, you can get a JVC Kaboom box for > $240: > > No digital input, but that's hardly worth thousands of dollars more. Totally man. Like CD players - why buy a Wadia when you can get a Tesco DVD playe

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-20 Thread Andyoz
I think we all need to hear it before making judgement. I am as dubious as anyone else...this thing just appears to be something a little special (even if overpriced) All I know is it was impressing people at a hifi show recently where they had just walked out of rooms listening to systems costi

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Mike Anderson
The price is ridiculous. If you want a decent-sounding boombox, you can get a JVC Kaboom box for $240: http://www.amazon.com/JVC-RV-NB10B-Boombox-Wireless-Transmitter/dp/B000FAILF6/ref=pd_bbs_sr_5/102-1797215-5405716?ie=UTF8&s=electronics&qid=1177037285&sr=8-5 No digital input, but that's hardl

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread amcluesent
Only for fanboys IMHO. No way I'm paying £1,500 to advertise Ferrari, that'd be like a £1,300 bit of kit branded with Logitech. Oh, wait... -- amcluesent amcluesent's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?useri

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread ncpl
As a Meridian user, I did wonder about the price. £1500 for a table top radio to beat a Boseh However, £1500 for a CD/DVD/am-fm-DAB radio/clock/2.1 speakers (DSP derived like the rest of the M range), 3 power amps each at 80w...and the Ferrari badge ;) Ok, that badge means now't to me,

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Andyoz
ncpl;196135 Wrote: > I have seen and heard it and can say that it is a very very interesting > unit. That's exactly what everyone is saying...this definitely isn't a Bose WaveRadio here. -- Andyoz Andyoz's Profile: http:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Kyle
ncpl;196150 Wrote: > It's currently £1495 and is launched in the UK first. Wow! For that price, they should -include- a Ferrari! -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thr

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread ncpl
It's currently £1495 and is launched in the UK first. Not sure what they said about beyond UK dates. It's only just hitting the stores this week. http://www.meridianunplugged.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000173 if you want to see what the Meridian user forum had to say about it.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Kyle
How much is it? The website says it's not available in the US. -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=34607 _

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread ncpl
I have seen and heard it and can say that it is a very very interesting unit. The sound that it produces simply should not be possible from a unit that small. If you see one in the stores...go and listen. I guarantee you will be quite surprised. -- ncpl --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread adamslim
Skunk;196107 Wrote: > No, but I'd like to. Single-driver [systems] interest me in general. > > The thing I generally like about single drivers is that there is a > defined sweet spot, but the speakers do need to be spaced in relation > to the listening position. > > The http://www.thef80.com/

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Skunk
Andyoz;196099 Wrote: > Have you heard it yet? No, but I'd like to. Single-driver [systems] interest me in general. The thing I generally like about single drivers is that there is a defined sweet spot, but the speakers do need to be spaced in relation to the listening position. The http://ww

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Andyoz
Hi haven't either. I am hearing too many good reports from people that are normally skeptical about these types of devices though. I am not saying it will replace your main hifi though...nothing will. -- Andyoz Andyoz's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread adamslim
Andyoz;196099 Wrote: > Have you heard it yet? Not me, but I bet it sounds amazing. Several reporters have waxed lyrical, FWIW. It should though, at £1,500 ($3,000) for a boombox! Digital active speakers may not be to everyone's taste, but they are certainly the way to go with such a gadget.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Andyoz
Skunk;196095 Wrote: > Besides, it's more of a gadget for when you're waxing the ferrari in the > garage or sipping limoncello by the pool... Have you heard it yet? -- Andyoz Andyoz's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.co

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Skunk
Kyle;196085 Wrote: > Thanks, but no. No. 1, it's ugly. No. 2, how do you get any stereo > imaging out of two speakers that are inches apart? Ah, but they knew someone would say that. One of the knobs is a 'stereo widening control'. Besides, it's more of a gadget for when you're waxing the fer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Andyoz
What I like about Meridian is they have always pushed the active speaker concept in domestic hifi and now others are starting to come around to their way of thinking. If they could just strip the sources out of it and let it go head to head with say the Apple HiFi, I know which I would buy. This

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Kyle
Thanks, but no. No. 1, it's ugly. No. 2, how do you get any stereo imaging out of two speakers that are inches apart? -- Kyle Kyle's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=2541 View this thread: http://

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread adamslim
It would be a dream Squeezeboombox - you want an SB inside, not just plugged in! I spoke to some guys at Meridian a while back; they all love the Squeezebox, and have loads at their factory. A link-up could be a great opportunity for SD to get some serious audiophile kudos... Adam -- adamsli

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Plug your SB3 into this!

2007-04-19 Thread Andyoz
http://www.thef80.com/ Sounds amazing by all accountsno seriously, some seasoned audiophiles were blown away by this thing at a recent hi-end hi-fi show. It's uses some serious DSP to ring eveything out of the box...think of it as Bose gear by people who actually give a toss about sound qual