Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread pryamomimo
Paul, thank you for the detailed answer. The reason I asked was that I _now_ have a completely opposite opinion of my (Cullen-modded) DLIII, however when I first installed it things were very different. It went into my system side-by-side with what was my pet DIY project for almost 2 years. AD

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread pryamomimo
Phil Leigh;437215 Wrote: Just to be clear, I consider burn-in of anything but speakers to be a complete and utter myth. Just as well IMHO otw we would never have got to the moon...all those capacitors settling down etc - that would have thrown the instruments right off :-) As for those

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread NewBuyer
pryamomimo;437584 Wrote: ...all have observed the effects of cable break-in, but none of them so far is able to provide a comprehensive explanation as to the causes... I wonder if they observed these effects through actual measurements, or just with ears-alone listening tests (like I

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread Phil Leigh
pryamomimo;437584 Wrote: Phil, you believe it's a myth. As you may see, based on my personal experience with this DAC, NOS tubes in my PrimaLuna, with freshly soldered circuits during my days of DIY hobby, and even -lately - with newly purchased Chord speaker cable (replacing Van den Hul

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread pryamomimo
Phil! This is a nice sunny day here, so I'm rather going to equip myself with some nice cold ale. I appreciate our discussion as being an exchange of beliefs and opinions, without any pressure to actually persuade the other party. Otherwise, I would suggest vodka as the weapon of choice. Now, as

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread p-cubed
I am very pleased with a stock DLIII driven by a Duet reciever with Acopian linear PS, over a Creative Cable Green Hornet 2m cable. Very resolving, very musical, not at all strident (and I am quite sensitive to strident gear). The Green Hornet sounds much better in this system than the Stereovox

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-03 Thread p-cubed
I use the DLIII with a PS Audio Digital AC Cord. This cord has been excellent with every digital source I have tried it on, and significantly improved the sound of the DLIII. -- p-cubed p-cubed's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-02 Thread C_W
Originally Posted by occam IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV I own both the PS Audio DLIII(unmodded with an SB3) and a Transporter. I am very happy with the DLIII and wouldn't hesitate to recommend

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-02 Thread occam
C_W;437377 Wrote: Originally Posted by occam IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV I own both the PS Audio DLIII(unmodded with an SB3) and a Transporter. I am very happy with the DLIII and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread pryamomimo
occam;436519 Wrote: IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV Hmm, this really makes me wonder what is the basis of your judgment. Owning it? Comparing it? To what? Owning a Cullen-modded DLIII for almost 2

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread Phil Leigh
pryamomimo;437107 Wrote: Hmm, this really makes me wonder what is the basis of your judgment. Owning it? Comparing it? To what? Owning a Cullen-modded DLIII for almost 2 years, I have a completely opposite impression. And I do have decent stuff to compare it with. Only thing, it does not

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread sckramer
pryamomimo;437187 Wrote: Whatever you call gradual but consistent improvement in sound quality over the course of several days after about a day or more of downtime. I expect you are not the one to bring up listener conditioning (or whatever it is called). hmmm... I havnt unplugged mine

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-07-01 Thread Phil Leigh
pryamomimo;437187 Wrote: Whatever you call gradual but consistent improvement in sound quality over the course of several days after about a day or more of downtime. I expect you are not the one to bring up listener conditioning (or whatever it is called). Just to be clear, I consider

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-30 Thread Shepardos
Thanks for the recommendation!!! Phil Leigh;436595 Wrote: The only mods to an SB2/3 that would really make sense if using an external DAC are either: 1) use i2s instead of S/PDIF to connect SB to an 12s-capable DAC or, better 2) use a DAC with clock-out and drive the SB clock from that

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-30 Thread Phil Leigh
Shepardos;436689 Wrote: Thanks for the recommendation!!! Why is it important to use a 1.5m cable? It's to do with reflections along the tranmission line - there's a well-known article on the Internet about this that has been referenced many times on this forum. 1.5m is the minimum

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Shepardos
Hi, I just purchased the ARCAM AVR600 and run the SB2 with this combination, as DAC. Now I want to upgrade the DAC. So I have a basic question: If I feed the FLAC music with SB2 into a DAC than it is not important if I use the Transporter for this or only the SB2? In that case I will bybass

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney_Gold
The TP's dac is better than the SB's one , however I don't feel its the best thing since sliced bread. IMHO the route you should take is to use your SB as a digital front end and fiddle with different stand alone dacs if you arent happy with your sound. -- Rodney_Gold Sb3/Z-sys RDP1/meridian

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Shepardos
Thanks, But do you see any issue with the digital out of the SB2? Does this really matter because I use an external DAC or should I consider a Modding of the Digital Output of the SB2? -- Shepardos Shepardos's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Rodney_Gold
What's wrong with the Sb's digital output that makes it require modification? Whats wrong with your sound that you wish to correct? I nave SB3's and a transporter and they both sound identical to my high end transport when using their SPDIF out.. I dunno if the Sb2 uses he same digital circuitry

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread occam
IMO, you'd be far better off with the Transporter, as I think the PS DL III a very mediocre dac. Strident, unresolving YMMV -- occam occam's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=949 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread NewBuyer
In my opinion: If you do get a Transporter, than like occam says, you would be best served by just using its built-in DAC. If you are going to use an external DAC regardless, then like Rodney says, you should just use your un-modded SB to supply the digital signal. -- NewBuyer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Stratmangler
The only gain you'd get using a Transporter to feed an external DAC is the ability to feed the DAC with actual 24/96 files. Pretty expensive (and probably pointless) exercise. Chris :) -- Stratmangler Stratmangler's

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB2 and PS Audio Digital Link DL III DAC or Transporter?

2009-06-29 Thread Phil Leigh
Shepardos;436370 Wrote: Thanks, But do you see any issue with the digital out of the SB2? Does this really matter because I use an external DAC or should I consider a Modding of the Digital Output of the SB2? The only mods to an SB2/3 that would really make sense if using an external DAC