Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-07 Thread sleepysurf
bhaagensen;419498 Wrote: Anyway, I'm sure ( in the I'm just guessing sense) the next (next) device from SD will support 24/96 if for nothing else than to keep up with the competition. I think the discussion on the audible merits of such formats will continue for a long time. But most

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-07 Thread Phil Leigh
sleepysurf;421429 Wrote: Well said! Slim/Logitech needs to be working on the SB4, with 24/96 (ideally 24/192) streaming. That, paired with a Benchmark (or equivalent 24/192 DAC), would be the cats meow! If they don't stay competitive, Sooloos, Sonos, Linn, etc. will grab that market!

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-07 Thread sleepysurf
Phil Leigh;421481 Wrote: Well, they would if anyone gave a flying stuff about 24/192! - completely pointless. Even 24/96 is pointless for domestic replay. I've yet to meet anyone who can tell the difference between 24/96 and 24/48 downsampled properly... I agree that 24/192 might be

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-06 Thread probedb
darrenyeats;420810 Wrote: When given the option, I am more interested in pursuing better original recordings e.g. MoFi rather than being fixated on a higher-rez delivery format. I think that's the more sensible option, if recordings were mastered properly in the first place people might

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-05 Thread darrenyeats
I think what is very instructive is the parallel experience in video. The industry has gone from standard def to HD which is being adopted fairly quickly now. There are no arguments from the videophile or man-on-the-street about whether there's a perceivable difference in quality between SD and

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-05-05 Thread DCtoDaylight
darrenyeats;420810 Wrote: I think what is very instructive is the parallel experience in video. The industry has gone from standard def to HD which is being adopted fairly quickly now. There are no arguments from the videophile or man-on-the-street about whether there's a perceivable

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread funkstar
sckramer;419265 Wrote: Hi, Could the SB3's software be changed to allow it to pass through 24/96 digital only? Maybe by adding an option to disable, or bypass the internal DAC? Or is it completely impossible with the hardware? I was thinking maybe it was limited to 24/48 because of

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread sckramer
funkstar;419326 Wrote: It's not just the DAC that has the limitation, the timing circuits for the digital output is also limited to 48khz, so there is no way for anything higher than 24/48 to be unsed on a SB3 (or any of the other players based on that hardware). bummer, Time for a SB4...

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread Phil Leigh
sckramer;419383 Wrote: bummer, Time for a SB4... (or SB3 v2) Same exact form factor (because it's perfect) support 24/96+ spdif passthru, maybe wireless-N... save the exotic DAC output stage for the transporter I'm not clear why you think this is such a big deal. Can you actually

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread funkstar
sckramer;419383 Wrote: save the exotic DAC output stage for the transporter I really don't see the point of a device that will do 24/96 -without- having the decent output stages. The audible difference between 24/48 and 24/96 are debatable from what I've read. And the down sampling via SOX is

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread Mnyb
funkstar;419405 Wrote: I really don't see the point of a device that will do 24/96 -without- having the decent output stages. The audible difference between 24/48 and 24/96 are debatable from what I've read. And the down sampling via SOX is very high quality. I see the point , I have a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread radish
Mnyb;419434 Wrote: * For the same reason it's downright unusable on all but the most powerful NAS boxes, The most economical server upgrade if you already have sunked plenty of $ into a NAS can be to get yourself a transporter if you have a lot of 24/96 files. Or just create a

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread Mnyb
radish;419439 Wrote: Or just create a downsampled copy of your library. The disk space is a lot cheaper than a TP ;) But thats not that much fun ;) My audiophile instict's explicitly removes all thoughts about degrading the preciusss files ;) -- Mnyb

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread sckramer
funkstar;419405 Wrote: I really don't see the point of a device that will do 24/96 -without- having the decent output stages. The audible difference between 24/48 and 24/96 are debatable from what I've read. And the down sampling via SOX is very high quality. agreed on both, but I'm using

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread Mnyb
sckramer;419444 Wrote: agreed on both, but I'm using an external DAC (stage3 modded psaudio dl3), thats the whole point yep I bet it's negligable, I was asking if it was as simple as letting it pass thru spdif, but the HW can't do it, so say lah vee cool that SOX down converts, I didnt

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread sckramer
Phil Leigh;419388 Wrote: I'm not clear why you think this is such a big deal. Can you actually hear the difference between 24/96 and 24/48 (when properly downsampled - e.g. by SOX)? it's not a big deal, never heard the difference -- I dont have a way to get a native stream to my dac... --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread iPhone
sckramer;419383 Wrote: bummer, Time for a SB4... (or SB3 v2) Same exact form factor (because it's perfect) support 24/96+ spdif passthru, maybe wireless-N... save the exotic DAC output stage for the transporter Or buy a Transporter or just use the SOX that is built into SC 7.3.2.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-30 Thread bhaagensen
Anyway, I'm sure ( in the I'm just guessing sense) the next (next) device from SD will support 24/96 if for nothing else than to keep up with the competition. I think the discussion on the audible merits of such formats will continue for a long time. But most stand-alone dac's and processors seem

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-29 Thread sckramer
Hi, Could the SB3's software be changed to allow it to pass through 24/96 digital only? Maybe by adding an option to disable, or bypass the internal DAC? Or is it completely impossible with the hardware? I was thinking maybe it was limited to 24/48 because of the DAC chip -- sckramer

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] SB3 Digital Out 24bit/48khz Physical Limitation?

2009-04-29 Thread mswlogo
sckramer;419265 Wrote: Hi, Could the SB3's software be changed to allow it to pass through 24/96 digital only? Maybe by adding an option to disable, or bypass the internal DAC? Or is it completely impossible with the hardware? I was thinking maybe it was limited to 24/48 because of