Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-10 Thread bakker_be
John, thanks for looking into this. I'm running SBS. Info: Code: Squeezebox Server Status Version: 7.6.0 - r32799 @ Fri Jul 22 02:05:47 PDT 2011 Hostname: BKSP01 Server IP Address: 192.168.1.2 Server HTTP Port Number: 9000 Operating system: Windows 2008

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-09 Thread bakker_be
soundcheck;573376 Wrote: Hi guys. As you can see I transform 44.1 into 88.2, which is IMO preferable over 44.1 to 96 on the Touch. Just a small question. I've got some albums that I've bought as 88.2, but my Touch (latest FW with your Toolbox2.0 + DynaudioRules's mods) reports unsupported

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-09 Thread JohnSwenson
What format is the file? Are you running an external SBS or are you plugging in a USB drive to the Touch? Dou you get that message from the Touch or from the server? The Touch can definately play 88.2 files, and nothing in either Soundcheck's nor Dynaudiorules mods changes anything related to

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread kef2m
Hello, this is my first post, so please be kind. In order to upsample Wav files to 48000 Hz PCM, the following file was patched: /Library/PreferencePanes/Squeezebox.prefPane/Contents/server/Slim/Player/Squeezebox.pm This is on a Mac, but I assume finding this file on Windows should not be too

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread Wombat
kef2m;647807 Wrote: In order to upsample Wav files to 48000 Hz PCM, the following file was I don´t know why anyone wants to upsample from 44.1kHz to 48kHz. You won´t improve anything here. The same goes for this polyphase attempt. The sox developers simply dropped it because it is less

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread kef2m
I understand your comment. The reason to upsample to 48kHz is that for me, the Meridian 568.1 better upsamples 48kHz material than 44.1kHz material. The 568.1 and the digital speakers (DSP33) are 96kHz/24 bit capable. I have not done any serious listening to upsample straight to 96kHz in Sox.

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread michael123
kef2m;647825 Wrote: I understand your comment. The reason to upsample to 48kHz is that for me, the Meridian 568.1 better upsamples 48kHz material than 44.1kHz material. The 568.1 and the digital speakers (DSP33) are 96kHz/24 bit capable. I have not done any serious listening to upsample

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread Wombat
kef2m;647825 Wrote: I understand your comment. The reason to upsample to 48kHz is that for me, the Meridian 568.1 better upsamples 48kHz material than 44.1kHz material. The 568.1 and the digital speakers (DSP33) are 96kHz/24 bit capable. I have not done any serious listening to upsample

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread kef2m
The music from the digital radio sounds 'warmer' than the cd's played back from the budget cd-player connected to the Meridian 568.1. Also, for 48 kHz material, the HS Out setting on the 568.1 makes an audible difference. For 44.1 kHz material I am unable to hear such a difference. This is my

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2011-08-07 Thread Wombat
kef2m;647841 Wrote: I do not have a link, this is my personal opinion. Ok then. I just looked up the DSP33 from Meridian. Seems like they have a Delta-Sigma DAC build in. Did you try to feed them directly? One thing about these DSP33 is that it seems the aluminium tweeter can´t reprroduce

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-09-03 Thread michael123
I ran myself sox in command line but without 'rate' effect and without sample size change, and the resulting file matches source. Actually, if we do upsampling and still sending headless raw, how the SC will detect proper rate, sample size, byte order? -- michael123

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-09-03 Thread michael123
Converting to lossless AIFF shall be ok in theory (as it also PCM and supported natively by Squeezebox/Transporter), but in practice - nada -- michael123 michael123's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-09-02 Thread soundcheck
headers?? As you can see the flc pcm conversion rule outputs a raw stream without a problem. Code: flc pcm * * # FT:{START=--skip=%t}U:{END=--until=%v} [flac] -dc --totally-silent --force-raw-format --endian=little --sign=signed $START$ $END$ --

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-09-02 Thread michael123
aha, so that might be an issue with sox did you try redirecting the output to file and comparing these two? where is the difference? -- michael123 michael123's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-09-01 Thread michael123
soundcheck I tried your upsampling options, and I find the bass not synchronized with the rest, kind of delayed. Did you try other options? What I use now is Code: # FLAC output starts here flc flc * * #

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-09-01 Thread michael123
soundcheck;573621 Wrote: Any reason for using --buffer? It shall improve performance (I use NAS), although I did not experiment much. soundcheck;573621 Wrote: How about flc pcm + SRC ? Did you manage to get that to work? No. Everything fails except FLAC, I think this is something to do

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-31 Thread soundcheck
Hi guys. For now I gave up on doing SRC on wav and pcm. I also tried flac pcm + SRC. Non of them I managed to get working so far. Meanwhile I have converted my entire collection to flac. This led to below working solution: This is an adaptation from here:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-31 Thread michael123
1) You do need a volume control since otherwise the upsampling will clip some samples (on certain tracks). 2) Did you try polyphase filter from previous sox release? -- michael123 michael123's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread CatBus
Not at all, it's copy-and-pasted from a completely unrelated script...the hyphen in that case would go last, not in the middle. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread soundcheck
I am a bit confused. Are you saying your line works? Lookup the man pages for sox 14.3.0. The effects, such as rate are last. Quote man pages: -- Examples: sox input.wav -b 16 output.wav rate -s -a 44100 dither -s - output.wav would have to be replaced with a hyphen. Cheers

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread bpa
I suspect that the Touch CPU won't have enough power to upsample when it is running the TinySB server. Are you sure it didn't work (i.e. check the log with player.source set to DEBUG) or is it possible the CPU couldn't generate a stream fast enough to play ? You should read this thread

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread CatBus
soundcheck;566592 Wrote: I am a bit confused. Are you saying your line works? Yes, but not in SqueezeCenter. -- CatBus CatBus's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=7461 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread soundcheck
bpa;566594 Wrote: I suspect that the Touch CPU won't have enough power to upsample when it is running the TinySB server. Are you sure it didn't work (i.e. check the log with player.source set to DEBUG) or is it possible the CPU couldn't generate a stream fast enough to play ? You

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread bpa
I misunderstood I thought your were using Touch to resample. To use a SBS server - then look at this thread. http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=69454 To debug use WebUI Setting/Advanced/Loggin and set player.source to DEBUG and the click apply. -- bpa

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-04 Thread earwaxer9
I have been experimenting with dbpoweramp converting CD's to 24/96. As I have discussed in other posts, I really like the sound of the upsampled 16/44.8 to 24/96 through the Transporter! I mean, I'm really happy! I can even tell the difference in sound from other rooms in the house. It comes

[SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-03 Thread soundcheck
Hi folks. Has anybody made Sox resampling work for wav pcm ? How is the convert.conf entry supposed to look like? I tried below with 44.1/16 on server 7.6.0 beta which comes with sox 14.3.0.: wav pcm * * [sox] -q -V0 -D -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -b 24 -c 2 -e signed-integer -L - rate -v

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-03 Thread qball
Why upsample? What do you expect to gain? For the ak4420 DAC (the one for the analog output in the touch) the THD+N for 44.1 or96 or 192khz is -92dB,so it cannot perfectly represent the 44.1khz 16bit signal to begin with.. -- qball

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-03 Thread soundcheck
I just want to give it a try. I'll see what happens, if I manage to get it going. ;) -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-03 Thread CatBus
This *should* work. I think you had an extra hyphen in there, and you're missing some sox resampling options goodness ;) [sox] -q -V0 -D -t wav $FILE$ -t raw -b 24 -c 2 -e signed-integer -L rate -v -s -I 88.2k -- CatBus

Re: [SlimDevices: Audiophiles] Touch: Upsampling with sox?

2010-08-03 Thread soundcheck
Hmmh. Usually the hyphen defines stdout as output. You don't have an output defined!?!? Are you sure your line works? -- soundcheck soundcheck's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=34383 View this