Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:17:33PM -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: 1. Integrated distributed version control system Why would we need that? Keep it simple. People can setup their own repos if they want, just as I did [1]. 2. User provided binaries (if case anyone wants to volunteer) (this should

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Cédric Girard
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.dewrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:17:33PM -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: 1. Integrated distributed version control system Why would we need that? Keep it simple. People can setup their own repos if they want, just as I

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le mardi 16 novembre 2010 20:03:14, Gaetan Bisson a écrit : Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in [community] a few packages I have been maintaining on the AUR so far, but

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 11/17/2010 03:03 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in [community] a few packages I have been maintaining on the AUR so far, but which are just a bit

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Imanol Celaya
pyopencl http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31416 Cheers, Stéphane problem with packages which use opencl(at least with nvidia) is that it requires the cuda toolkit, a binary package that I'm not sure about the redistribution rights(should read the license) and then look how to

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Laurent Carlier
Le mercredi 17 novembre 2010 12:59:48, Ionuț Bîru a écrit : On 11/17/2010 03:03 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in [community] a few packages

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 17 November 2010 13:15, Imanol Celaya ornitorrin...@archlinux-es.org wrote: pyopencl http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31416 Cheers, Stéphane problem with packages which use opencl(at least with nvidia) is that it requires the cuda toolkit, a binary package that I'm not sure

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Allan McRae
On 17/11/10 21:59, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 11/17/2010 03:03 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in [community] a few packages I have been maintaining on the

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Imanol Celaya
2010/11/17 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: On 17 November 2010 13:15, Imanol Celaya ornitorrin...@archlinux-es.org wrote: pyopencl http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31416 Cheers, Stéphane problem with packages which use opencl(at least with nvidia) is that it requires

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 17 November 2010 13:29, Imanol Celaya ornitorrin...@archlinux-es.org wrote: 2010/11/17 Lukáš Jirkovský l.jirkov...@gmail.com: On 17 November 2010 13:15, Imanol Celaya ornitorrin...@archlinux-es.org wrote: pyopencl http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31416 Cheers, Stéphane

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 11/17/2010 02:22 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 17/11/10 21:59, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 11/17/2010 03:03 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in [community] a

Re: [aur-general] [community] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 schrieb Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com: I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a package that's already been discarded by its developer. In my opinion such packages should be moved to [unsupported] where the one more two people who

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Wed, 17 Nov 2010 19:30:02 +1300 schrieb Jonathan Conder jonno.conder+a...@gmail.com: I think it would be nice if people who click the Notify button get emailed when the package is updated, and not just when someone comments. Some maintainers don't say anything when they update. You don't

[aur-general] Duplicate package: ubuntulooks

2010-11-17 Thread Heiko Baums
After the mass cleanup of [extra] ubuntulooks is now in AUR twice. ubuntulooks (moved from [extra]) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43548 gtk-engine-ubuntulooks http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11324 The latter has some patches. I don't know what they are doing. But I'd suggest

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Allan McRae
On 17/11/10 22:35, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 11/17/2010 02:22 PM, Allan McRae wrote: On 17/11/10 21:59, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 11/17/2010 03:03 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le mercredi 17 novembre 2010 07:18:43, Lukáš Jirkovský a écrit : On 17 November 2010 13:15, Imanol Celaya ornitorrin...@archlinux-es.org wrote: pyopencl http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=31416 Cheers, Stéphane problem with packages which use opencl(at least with nvidia)

Re: [aur-general] [community] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Allan McRae
On 17/11/10 22:45, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 schrieb Kaiting Chenkaitocr...@gmail.com: I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a package that's already been discarded by its developer. In my opinion such packages should be moved to

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
and then look how to handle the opencl dependiencies as both amd and nvidia provide icd and in theory both can cohexist(so maybe a provides=('opencl') ?) so, yes, opencl maybe better to wait Imanol This is a part of the reason why I said I will wait before uploading. See FS#20558

Re: [aur-general] Duplicate package: ubuntulooks

2010-11-17 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: After the mass cleanup of [extra] ubuntulooks is now in AUR twice. ubuntulooks (moved from [extra]) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43548 gtk-engine-ubuntulooks http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11324

Re: [aur-general] Duplicate package: ubuntulooks

2010-11-17 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 13:59:25 Heiko Baums wrote: After the mass cleanup of [extra] ubuntulooks is now in AUR twice. ubuntulooks (moved from [extra]) http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=43548 gtk-engine-ubuntulooks http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=11324 The latter

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 11:17 +0100, Cédric Girard wrote: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Lukas Fleischer archli...@cryptocrack.dewrote: On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 11:17:33PM -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: 1. Integrated distributed version control system Why would we need that? Keep it

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2010/11/17 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com: How can we make the AUR even better? I'll start: 1. Integrated distributed version control system +1 but I think distributed is not necessary at all, but keeping the revisions of a PKGBUILD or the rest of the files will be nice. 2. User provided

Re: [aur-general] [community] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Rémy Oudompheng
2010/11/17 Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: On 17/11/10 22:45, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Tue, 16 Nov 2010 23:19:40 -0500 schrieb Kaiting Chenkaitocr...@gmail.com: I think it's kind of hard for me to see why I should maintain a package that's already been discarded by its developer. In my

Re: [aur-general] [community] repository cleanup

2010-11-17 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 15:51:22 Rémy Oudompheng wrote: Why not move them to a graveyard repo, that would be called [unmaintained]. It would contain binary packages that belonged formerly to [community] but are explicitly not maintained anymore. That would allow people who use them to

Re: [aur-general] Deletion request

2010-11-17 Thread Evangelos Foutras
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:37 PM, Alessio Sergi ase...@archlinux.us wrote: Hi TUs, please remove plasma-ihatethecashew-plasmoid [1]. It's replaced by ihatethecashew-plasmoid [2] now. Deleted, thanks.

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 12:01:48 -0200 Ángel Velásquez an...@archlinux.org wrote: 2010/11/17 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com: How can we make the AUR even better? I'll start: 1. Integrated distributed version control system +1 but I think distributed is not necessary at all, but keeping the

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Thorsten Töpper
On Wed, 17 Nov 2010 02:03:14 +0100 Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in [community] a few packages I have been maintaining on the AUR

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
You are Devs (kinda), I assume from that, that you are a trustworthy person as the people we all trust(devs) trust you. I see no problem with you maintaining a few packages in [community] as long as you - like this - say what you want to move in or out to/of the repository and wait at least

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
Thanks for thinking about AUR, tough I don't like most of your proposals. ;-) That's fine. That's why I asked. I like most of my proposals but I've been around long enough to realize that what I like and what other people like are usually different. I really would like to see some sort of

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2010/11/17 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com: You are Devs (kinda), I assume from that, that you are a trustworthy person as the people we all trust(devs) trust you. I see no problem with you maintaining a few packages in [community] as long as you - like this - say what you want to move in

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Ray Rashif
2010/11/18 Ángel Velásquez an...@archlinux.org: 2010/11/17 Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com: You are Devs (kinda), I assume from that, that you are a trustworthy person as the people we all trust(devs) trust you. I see no problem with you maintaining a few packages in [community] as long

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
+1 This is no different from a new TU. There's no need for an audit or even for them to ask us when they deem something suitable for [community] (it should be in accordance to the TU Packaging Guidelines; 10 votes || 1% usage anyway). I'm confused as to the difference between a Trusted

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Isaac Dupree
On 11/17/10 14:32, Kaiting Chen wrote: Thanks for thinking about AUR, tough I don't like most of your proposals. ;-) That's fine. That's why I asked. I like most of my proposals but I've been around long enough to realize that what I like and what other people like are usually different. I

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
If there's anything I can do to help implement this, I can spend some time on it. (I have a few AUR packages, http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?K=idupreeSeB=m , and have used ABS, but otherwise am not too familiar with how Arch's infrastructure is set up currently.) I'm going to toy

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Ray Rashif
On 18 November 2010 04:14, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: +1 This is no different from a new TU. There's no need for an audit or even for them to ask us when they deem something suitable for [community] (it should be in accordance to the TU Packaging Guidelines; 10 votes || 1%

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Justin Davis
On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 8:17 PM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: How can we make the AUR even better? I'll start: 1. Integrated distributed version control system I like this idea. At least the ability to track changes in PKGBUILDs would be fun. Similar to a wiki's revision history.

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
Though a distributed VCS and not a centralized VCS is not really that necessary I use git mainly because it is fast, not because it is distributed. So I don't see why a distributed VCS would be any worse than a centralized one. The AUR is never going to be merging from another repo

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Justin Davis
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 1:35 PM, Kaiting Chen kaitocr...@gmail.com wrote: ... I don't believe a centralized VCS is capable of this. Just so you know, a centralized VCS like svn or cvs can do the same thing. Just to reiterate, my personal preference is still git. I think it will be best

Re: [aur-general] Various new packages in [community]

2010-11-17 Thread Loui Chang
On Wed 17 Nov 2010 22:22 +1000, Allan McRae wrote: On 17/11/10 21:59, Ionuț Bîru wrote: On 11/17/2010 03:03 AM, Gaetan Bisson wrote: Dear TUs, I'm Gaetan, a (discreet) junior dev, mentored by Allan. I recently got access to sigurd and thought I would use that opportunity to maintain in

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
Just so you know, a centralized VCS like svn or cvs can do the same thing. How does one commit to a local repository using SVN? Sure I suppose if the LDAP spontaneously configures itself and populates itself with data that is just great. I was talking about configuring LDAP, deploying LDAP,

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Loui Chang
On Tue 16 Nov 2010 23:17 -0500, Kaiting Chen wrote: How can we make the AUR even better? I'll start: 1. Integrated distributed version control system 2. User provided binaries (if case anyone wants to volunteer) (this should probably be carefully controlled) 3. Time-adjusted 'relevance'

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Justin Davis
How does one commit to a local repository using SVN? I meant that you can do a 'svn update' or 'cvs update' to merge changes from the server into your working dir. -- -Justin

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Kaiting Chen
I meant that you can do a 'svn update' or 'cvs update' to merge changes from the server into your working dir. But you cannot commit to your local repository. Nor can you branch, tag, etc. Basically you can't do anything useful with a traditional VCS in a decentralized structure like the AUR.

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:53 -0500, Isaac Dupree wrote: On 11/17/10 14:32, Kaiting Chen wrote: I really would like to see some sort of integrated VCS system though. It's easy to tell what a new release in the official repositories contains by using the SVN interface. No such thing exists

Re: [aur-general] AUR Improvement Thread

2010-11-17 Thread Ray Rashif
On 18 November 2010 09:48, Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com wrote: I'd almost say I'd like to see something like a Launchpad or Sourceforge for the AUR, with everything you need available via a more-or-less homogenous interface. But all features should be accessible via the command line as the