Re: [aur-general] Abandonware: lgeneral-data

2012-03-02 Thread Lukáš Jirkovský
On 1 March 2012 10:27, Anton Bazhenov anton.bazhe...@gmail.com wrote: Package 'lgeneral-data' [1] contains data files for the game LGeneral [2]. But these files are taken from the original game - Panzer General, the rights to which are now owned by Ubisoft. I could update the package and

[aur-general] Signoff report for [community-testing]

2012-03-02 Thread Arch Website Notification
=== Signoff report for [community-testing] === https://www.archlinux.org/packages/signoffs/ There are currently: * 22 new packages in last 24 hours * 0 known bad packages * 0 packages not accepting signoffs * 0 fully signed off packages * 47 packages missing signoffs * 2 packages older than 14

Re: [aur-general] AUR helpers and AUR standards

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Thu, 1 Mar 2012 20:12:29 -0600 schrieb Nick Miller nick.k...@gmail.com: As far as I know it's not since aur helpers are not and will never be officially supported. And what? Almost everybody uses them. And split packages are also not officially supported. But while AUR helpers are useful

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:59:56 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: Like I said, nobody cares. Oh, you are nobody? Interesting. If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. Between the lines are spaces otherwise there would be other lines. I'd say, the one who

Re: [aur-general] AUR helpers and AUR standards

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 15:23:16 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com: As I understand it the reason the AUR doesn't support split packages is more along the lines of hard to implement and/or noone has bothered to add it rather than the AUR shall not have split packages. As long as

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:27:39 +0100 schrieb Balló György ballog...@gmail.com: I understand Heiko's opinion and now I replaced these hackish split packages by individual packages even if it's requires more maintenance time on updates. So now users should able to install all of my packages with

Re: [aur-general] AUR helpers and AUR standards

2012-03-02 Thread Dave Reisner
On Mar 2, 2012 6:31 AM, Heiko Baums li...@baums-on-web.de wrote: Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 15:23:16 +0800 schrieb Oon-Ee Ng ngoonee.t...@gmail.com: As I understand it the reason the AUR doesn't support split packages is more along the lines of hard to implement and/or noone has bothered to add it

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Hilton Medeiros
On 03/02/2012 08:17 AM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:59:56 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bisson bis...@archlinux.org: Like I said, nobody cares. Oh, you are nobody? Interesting. If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. Between the lines are spaces otherwise

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 21:38, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 00:27:39 +0100 schrieb Balló György ballog...@gmail.com: I understand Heiko's opinion and now I replaced these hackish split packages by individual packages even if it's requires more maintenance time on updates. So now users should

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Thomas Bächler
Am 01.03.2012 15:31, schrieb Peter Lewis: On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 07:51:47 Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: This is a bit picky of me, but technically the sponsor is supposed to be a TU and as far as I can tell Stéphane is a dev rather than a TU... So ... Following this logic I have the power to

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 01/03/12 17:33, Ike Devolder wrote: Hi, Hey, I recognise your name, and even better it is not in a bad way! That is my #1 criterion for recruiting new TUs. Even better is that you pass my #2 criterion, which is appearing competent. Good luck, Allan

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le 2012-03-02 07:03, Thomas Bächler a écrit : Am 01.03.2012 15:31, schrieb Peter Lewis: On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 07:51:47 Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: This is a bit picky of me, but technically the sponsor is supposed to be a TU and as far as I can tell Stéphane is a dev rather than a TU... So

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le 2012-03-02 06:17, Heiko Baums a écrit : Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 11:59:56 +1100 schrieb Gaetan Bissonbis...@archlinux.org: Like I said, nobody cares. Oh, you are nobody? Interesting. If you have problems reading between the lines, try growing up. Between the lines are spaces otherwise there

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Ike Devolder
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 10:08:54PM +1000, Allan McRae wrote: On 01/03/12 17:33, Ike Devolder wrote: Hi, Hey, I recognise your name, and even better it is not in a bad way! That is my #1 criterion for recruiting new TUs. Even better is that you pass my #2 criterion, which is appearing

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Ike Devolder
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 07:09:36AM -0500, Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: Le 2012-03-02 07:03, Thomas Bächler a écrit : Am 01.03.2012 15:31, schrieb Peter Lewis: On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 07:51:47 Stéphane Gaudreault wrote: This is a bit picky of me, but technically the sponsor is supposed to be a

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Angel Velásquez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/12 05:47, Peter Lewis wrote: Hi Ike, Thanks for applying :-) On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 08:33:17 Ike Devolder wrote: Currently I'm using Archlinux as my primary operating system for over 6 years and for several years I'm maintaining a

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:11:21 -0500 schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault steph...@archlinux.org: STOP. Heiko, you had the chance to express you opinion about this application (and you did it in a totally inappropiate way). I didn't do it in a inappropriate way. I did it in a factual way and explained

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:01:59 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: I see what was done there... makedepends in split packages probably need to become depends when built as individual packages. @György: Let that be a lesson in being careful when making reactionary changes to

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Angel Velásquez
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 02/03/12 10:06, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 07:11:21 -0500 schrieb Stéphane Gaudreault steph...@archlinux.org: STOP. Heiko, you had the chance to express you opinion about this application (and you did it in a totally

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 23:16, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:01:59 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: I see what was done there... makedepends in split packages probably need to become depends when built as individual packages. @György: Let that be a lesson in being careful

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Ike Devolder
On Fri, Mar 02, 2012 at 10:15:32AM -0300, Angel Velásquez wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/03/12 05:47, Peter Lewis wrote: Hi Ike, Thanks for applying :-) On Thursday 01 Mar 2012 08:33:17 Ike Devolder wrote: Currently I'm using Archlinux as my

Re: [aur-general] TU sponsorship.

2012-03-02 Thread Peter Lewis
On Friday 02 Mar 2012 13:03:47 Thomas Bächler wrote: I always highlight that the Arch core developers usually don't interfere with the affairs of the TU group. In that sense, the bylaws make sense by saying you need to TU to sponsor him. However, the important part (voting) is done by TUs

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 10:22:46 -0300 schrieb Angel Velásquez an...@archlinux.org: Heiko, I've always had several discussions with you, now Gaetan, and many people seems to have disagree with your opinion. If they disagree with my opinion, they can happily explain why. I explained my concerns.

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Magnus Therning
This thread is kind of fun to read, from a sociological perspective :) It is however sad when one considers that all the energy put into writing these emails could have been put into either - address AUR's shortcomings when it comes to split packages, or - address the different AUR builders

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Allan McRae
On 02/03/12 23:40, Allan McRae wrote: On 02/03/12 23:16, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 22:01:59 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: I see what was done there... makedepends in split packages probably need to become depends when built as individual packages. @György:

Re: [aur-general] Disown request: batterymon-clone

2012-03-02 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 03/01/2012 09:44 PM, Jarek Sedlacek wrote: Packagae batterymon-clone[1] is out of date and broken, and has been for a while. I tried to email the maintainer, monstermudder78, but the email he has listed ( ca...@archlinux.us) doesn't exist. I see he doesn't maintain any other packages, so

Re: [aur-general] Package Deletion/Merge: batterymon

2012-03-02 Thread Bartłomiej Piotrowski
On 03/02/2012 05:37 PM, Jarek Sedlacek wrote: Package batterymon [1] is broken and will remain broken as long as arch kernels are built without CONFIG_ACPI_PROCFS_POWER. It can be replaced by batterymon-clone [2] which is a fork of the same project that gets battery information from /sys

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Xyne
Allan McRae wrote: Since when it is a good packaging quality to upload packages which can't be installed? They can be installed. Or do you mean can not be installed by an AUR helper? In which case you are still wrong due to the extra dependency line. I think this point should be

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Xyne
Xyne wrote: Allan McRae wrote: Since when it is a good packaging quality to upload packages which can't be installed? They can be installed. Or do you mean can not be installed by an AUR helper? In which case you are still wrong due to the extra dependency line. I think

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 18:49:47 + schrieb Xyne x...@archlinux.ca: The choice of Bash was myopic and lazy in my opinion, and something that should be reversed as far as possible, not glorified. Don't say that too loud, because Gentoo's ebuilds are principally bash, too, but Gentoo has its own

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:40:55 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: Where is it written that you can't do that? PKGBUILDs are bash. Any valid bash is a valid PKGBUILD. So, what if I would build a package which contains an .install file with an `rm -Rf /` in its post_install()

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Cédric Girard
On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 9:39 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 23:40:55 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: Where is it written that you can't do that? PKGBUILDs are bash. Any valid bash is a valid PKGBUILD. So, what if I would build a package which contains an

[aur-general] Misconceptions about the AUR?

2012-03-02 Thread Loui Chang
On Fri 02 Mar 2012 00:49 +0100, Heiko Baums wrote: Am Fri, 02 Mar 2012 09:21:33 +1000 schrieb Allan McRae al...@archlinux.org: You do realize who first came up with the workaround for adding split packages to the AUR... Because from memory it was figured out in the TU IRC channel. I

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - Ike Devolder

2012-03-02 Thread Alexander Rødseth
Thanks for applying and best of luck. :) -- Sincerely,  Alexander Rødseth  Arch Linux Trusted User  (xyproto on IRC, trontonic on AUR)

Re: [aur-general] Misconceptions about the AUR?

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 17:16:16 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com: First of all I'll deplore you for hijacking György's TU Application thread to rant about your own qualms. You should be ashamed. You should apologise. You are wrong. I'm not wrong, I didn't hijack anything, and I

Re: [aur-general] Misconceptions about the AUR?

2012-03-02 Thread Heiko Baums
Am Fri, 2 Mar 2012 21:00:54 -0500 schrieb Loui Chang louipc@gmail.com: Yes. Because I say so. Because everyone else says so. Because you are one of those imbeciles that don't stop to listen and simply talk over everyone so that you can only hear yourself shouting. So, you are everybody,

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le 2012-03-01 13:00, Balló György a écrit : Hello everybody, I'm applying to be a Trusted User. I'm a 24 years old Hungarian web developer, and I'm using Arch Linux as my main system since 2010 summer. Before that I used a Debian-based distro for one year. In my free time I like surfing on

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Alex Belanger
Hi, I'm also in favor of György. He is the best candidate I have seen lately and his presentation is clean. I would like someone like him around to help the community. Also, if I pay attention to the other posts, my opinion is... the AUR is a HELPER tool. It's only used as a time saver, but it

Re: [aur-general] TU Application - György Balló

2012-03-02 Thread Balló György
Hi, thanks for the question. I looked at your AUR packages and saw that you are maintaining the unity desktop. I never used this desktop environment, but as a curiosity is it something you want to eventually bring into [community] ? I worked a lot on making Unity and indicators usable on