2011/2/9 Peter Lewis
> Two very good points. In that case we should be very clear that if a
> package
> is moved up the repo ranking or otherwise adopted, that all contributors'
> names remain on there as a matter of policy (is it already?) I don't
> believe
> anyone has a right to remove a contr
On Wednesday 09 February 2011 00:32:17 Ng Oon-Ee wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:57 +0100, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> > I would like to add that for some AUR-users, the packages is what they
> > would have to show for if they were to apply to become a TU.
> > As far as I know, the AUR history is
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:57 +0100, Alexander Rødseth wrote:
> I would like to add that for some AUR-users, the packages is what they
> would have to show for if they were to apply to become a TU.
> As far as I know, the AUR history is not recorded in any accessible way.
>
> - Alexander
> (trontoni
I would like to add that for some AUR-users, the packages is what they
would have to show for if they were to apply to become a TU.
As far as I know, the AUR history is not recorded in any accessible way.
- Alexander
(trontonic on AUR / xyproto on #archlinux)
> Not that I wouldn't mind the credit but it was Lukas Fleischer who
> implemented the official repo checking code and not me. He is also
> hosting the git repository for his branch of the AUR.
Oops, yeah, I saw this too at some point.
> Your idea sort of sounds like "retiring" a package to me. T
Not that I wouldn't mind the credit but it was Lukas Fleischer who
implemented the official repo checking code and not me. He is also
hosting the git repository for his branch of the AUR.
Your idea sort of sounds like "retiring" a package to me. That seems
like an interesting idea but I am not sur
On 8 February 2011 03:23, Thomas Dziedzic wrote:
> Side note:
> Although TUs are a great bunch, I don't think that's the main reason
> why people use the AUR. :)
As much as I'd like for this thread to die, because the main issue was
settled very many replies ago (we all agree that it's bad and we
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Bernardo Barros
wrote:
> Angel,
>
> If AUR is a sucessgul project, it is not because of this kind of
> language you use. Be friendly to your fellow Arch friends. I'm sure
> that if the other TU would share this language, another project
> similar to AUR would pop up
On Monday 07 February 2011 17:12:03 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
> Ok please somebody bring a toy for the kid.
>
> I've repeated on *this* thread (several times) that a `courtesy note`
> is in the most cases sent when a package is moved to binary form on
> our official repos, and this should be enough,
Angel,
If AUR is a sucessgul project, it is not because of this kind of
language you use. Be friendly to your fellow Arch friends. I'm sure
that if the other TU would share this language, another project
similar to AUR would pop up elsewhere.
Ok, some of the messages from this thread started to became offtopic.
Here is my 2 cents and consider this being my last message.
We always had an unspoken rule about sending a "thank you" note but we
are all humans and forgot. Have my word that I spoke with the members
that forgot and this wo
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear :
> On Monday, February 07, 2011 12:22:41 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
>> 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear :
>> > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
>> >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 :
>> >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an
>> >> > ownership, but
On Monday, February 07, 2011 12:22:41 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
> 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear :
> > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
> >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 :
> >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an
> >> > ownership, but more like an authorship. Is it
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear :
> On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
>> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 :
>> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership,
>> > but more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the
>> > author by a polite question
On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote:
> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 :
> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership,
> > but more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the
> > author by a polite question? After all we are people, no
Hello official and inofficial maintainers and AUR devs.
Following the discussion in aur-general, I think some automation could
solve many issues at once here. Justin Davis' community-blacklist
patch is an approach in about the right direction although in
relation to the discussion concerning t
I maintain a few PKGBUILDs on AUR, including one that has a considerable
amount of votes [1]. It would be awesome to have any package that I maintain
moved to [community], it doesn't matter if the TU asked me or not, but this
is a personal opinion. Nevertheless, it is certainly polite to write a
co
Ángel Velásquez wrote:
> We eventually show our respect to the author to notice him that we do
> will move your package, but it's arrogant and too stupid to pretend
> that a TU or Dev have to `ask you for permission` <--- THIS IS
> MADNESS, you aren't the owner of that PKGBUILD ! even if you wrote
I'll just add here that I used to use moving packages to [community] as
a TU recruitment ground. If the package I wanted to move to [community]
was obviously well maintained, I usually offered to sponsor the
maintainer to be a TU when I let them know I was going to move their
package. I think
I always send the maintainer a 'thank you' afterwards telling them that I've
moved their package to [community] and asking them if they have any specific
advise about the package. My personal opinion is that it is not necessary to
ask beforehand when moving a package simply because in my experience
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Jelle van der Waa wrote:
> I apologize for taking your package without emailing or notifiying you and
> more I feel bad for not replying to your email. And now i am ashamed on the
> mailing list,
>
> I won't forget to mail the next time I adopt packages and move th
I have contributed a few PKGBUILDs to AUR. I do it because I enjoy it
-- all I ask is for is recognition. Yes, this is an open source
project and it is implicit that the work can and (hopefully) be
adopted and improved. But recognition of each person who contributed
should be maintained.
I am n
On 6 February 2011 06:01, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
> I don't think that Hilton was trolling you Maxime, just poking a little fun
> at Jelle.
He was so engrossed with moving a package (think about the excitement
he must have had) that he forgot about the formalities involved.
On 6 February 2011 03:35, Ionuț Bîru wrote:
> I moved a lot of packages from AUR in community/extra and every time i did
> sent a "thank you" note. From that amount of messages i sent, only once i
> got a reply. ONCE.
>
> Should i be dissapointed? I guess yes. I am? No.
No need. The first comment
Hi Angel,
> This is opensource world dude, can you see it?, so forget those
> "autorship" and "license" of those PKGBUILD, plus, in many cases, many
> of the packages went from one people to another. Btw I don't know why
> people refers to packages when we are talking about aurballs
> containing P
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Maxime Wack wrote:
> Le -10/01/-28163 20:59, Hilton Medeiros a écrit :
>
>
>
>> Now, that is outrageous. Stealing your package is already a very nasty
>> thing to do, but not replying to your email is unforgivable!
>>
>> From today onwards we shall call him: Je
Le -10/01/-28163 20:59, Hilton Medeiros a écrit :
Now, that is outrageous. Stealing your package is already a very nasty
thing to do, but not replying to your email is unforgivable!
From today onwards we shall call him: Jelle, the Soulless.
Wow, I didn't expect to be trolled on aur-gen
2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh :
> 2011/2/6 Ángel Velásquez :
>> 2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh :
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
>>> process feels a little uneasy to me.
>>
>> First of all remove that "my" before packages, that's a problem, some
>> maintainers
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:00:32 +0100
Maxime Wack wrote:
> I had the same "problem" a few weeks ago, when the polipo package I
> was maintaining was moved to [Community] without any notice. I got
> aware of this when yaourt told me my version of polipo was not the
> same as in the repos… imagine my
2011/2/5 Nicky726 :
>
> To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership, but
> more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the author by
> a polite question? After all we are people, not mindless machines nor animals.
>
Hi Nicky,
This is opensource wor
2011/2/6 Ángel Velásquez :
> 2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh :
>> Hi,
>>
>> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
>> process feels a little uneasy to me.
>
> First of all remove that "my" before packages, that's a problem, some
> maintainers thinks that they're owners of the
Gergely Imreh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
> process feels a little uneasy to me.
>
> My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second class" source of
> packages compared to the official repos. Not surprising, of course, so
> many packa
Le 5 février 2011 13:45:20, Thomas S Hatch a écrit :
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Gergely Imreh wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
> > process feels a little uneasy to me.
> >
> > My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second cl
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
> > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
> >> > Greg, You have a valid point, personally
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 21:00 +0100, Maxime Wack wrote:
> I had the same "problem" a few weeks ago, when the polipo package I was
> maintaining was moved to [Community] without any notice. I got aware of
> this when yaourt told me my version of polipo was not the same as in the
> repos… imagine m
On 6 February 2011 02:31, Gergely Imreh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
> process feels a little uneasy to me.
This has come up a couple of times before, and we all know it is very
wrong to move a package from [unsupported] _without prior not
I had the same "problem" a few weeks ago, when the polipo package I was
maintaining was moved to [Community] without any notice. I got aware of
this when yaourt told me my version of polipo was not the same as in the
repos… imagine my surprise when I didn't find my package on AUR anymore.
Not th
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
>> > Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the
>> maintainer
>> > of a package for objection
Hi, fellow Archers,
I feel a need to express my support to the opinion stated by Greg Imreh and
Thomas Hatch. There is an unique relation between the contributor/maintainer
and
the PKGBUILD. This relation calls for respect. So please TUs/devs act as people
and show it by letting first the cont
It would be technologically helpful if moving a package to Community (or
just deleting it from the AUR) did not consign its AUR comments to the
eternal bit bucket in the sky. At any rate, I often wish I could see
what was on the AUR page just before it was moved.
((if you want an example:: O
On 02/05/2011 08:31 PM, Gergely Imreh wrote:
Hi,
Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
process feels a little uneasy to me.
I moved a lot of packages from AUR in community/extra and every time i
did sent a "thank you" note. From that amount of messages i sent,
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer
wrote:
> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
> > Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the
> maintainer
> > of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I
> also
> > want to c
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote:
> Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the maintainer
> of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I also
> want to continue to express my deep gratitude for the packagers who
> contribu
2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh :
> Hi,
>
> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
> process feels a little uneasy to me.
First of all remove that "my" before packages, that's a problem, some
maintainers thinks that they're owners of the PKGBUILD, and isn't like
this, all PKG
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Gergely Imreh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
> process feels a little uneasy to me.
>
> My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second class" source of
> packages compared to the official repos. Not surpri
Hi,
Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the
process feels a little uneasy to me.
My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second class" source of
packages compared to the official repos. Not surprising, of course, so
many packages have problems. This is also underl
On Sunday 05 December 2010 17:21:16 Kaiting Chen wrote:
> On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Ike Devolder wrote:
>
> > Thx guys for letting me know you would move some packages from AUR to
> > community
> >
> > thats really stimulating to contribute something
> >
> > if you dont know what i'm talkin
On Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:21:16 AM Kaiting Chen wrote:
> I'm confused, are you the maintainer of these packages in the AUR? Usually
> we will notify the maintainer of a package if it is moved from [unsupported]
> to [community]. --Kaiting.
Seems that Sergej didn't this time...
--
Andrea Sca
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Ike Devolder wrote:
> Thx guys for letting me know you would move some packages from AUR to
> community
>
> thats really stimulating to contribute something
>
> if you dont know what i'm talking about
>
> - libssh2 ( i picked it up after bash dropped it in AUR)
> -
Thx guys for letting me know you would move some packages from AUR to community
thats really stimulating to contribute something
if you dont know what i'm talking about
- libssh2 ( i picked it up after bash dropped it in AUR)
- podofo (cant remember how i picked it up)
It would just be a little
Hi everyone,
I'd like to move the following packages to community:
1) pspshrink [1]
2) ntlmaps [2]
In fact I am writting a wiki page about using ntlmaps through the Arch
Linux Installation for complementing the begginer guide :).
Opinions?
[1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17076
[2]
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