Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-09 Thread Kaiting Chen
2011/2/9 Peter Lewis > Two very good points. In that case we should be very clear that if a > package > is moved up the repo ranking or otherwise adopted, that all contributors' > names remain on there as a matter of policy (is it already?) I don't > believe > anyone has a right to remove a contr

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-09 Thread Peter Lewis
On Wednesday 09 February 2011 00:32:17 Ng Oon-Ee wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:57 +0100, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > > I would like to add that for some AUR-users, the packages is what they > > would have to show for if they were to apply to become a TU. > > As far as I know, the AUR history is

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-08 Thread Ng Oon-Ee
On Tue, 2011-02-08 at 17:57 +0100, Alexander Rødseth wrote: > I would like to add that for some AUR-users, the packages is what they > would have to show for if they were to apply to become a TU. > As far as I know, the AUR history is not recorded in any accessible way. > > - Alexander > (trontoni

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-08 Thread Alexander Rødseth
I would like to add that for some AUR-users, the packages is what they would have to show for if they were to apply to become a TU. As far as I know, the AUR history is not recorded in any accessible way. - Alexander (trontonic on AUR / xyproto on #archlinux)

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-08 Thread Martti Kühne
> Not that I wouldn't mind the credit but it was Lukas Fleischer who > implemented the official repo checking code and not me. He is also > hosting the git repository for his branch of the AUR. Oops, yeah, I saw this too at some point. > Your idea sort of sounds like "retiring" a package to me. T

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Justin Davis
Not that I wouldn't mind the credit but it was Lukas Fleischer who implemented the official repo checking code and not me. He is also hosting the git repository for his branch of the AUR. Your idea sort of sounds like "retiring" a package to me. That seems like an interesting idea but I am not sur

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ray Rashif
On 8 February 2011 03:23, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > Side note: > Although TUs are a great bunch, I don't think that's the main reason > why people use the AUR. :) As much as I'd like for this thread to die, because the main issue was settled very many replies ago (we all agree that it's bad and we

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 1:20 PM, Bernardo Barros wrote: > Angel, > > If AUR is a sucessgul project, it is not because of this kind of > language you use. Be friendly to your fellow Arch friends. I'm sure > that if the other TU would share this language, another project > similar to AUR would pop up

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Monday 07 February 2011 17:12:03 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > Ok please somebody bring a toy for the kid. > > I've repeated on *this* thread (several times) that a `courtesy note` > is in the most cases sent when a package is moved to binary form on > our official repos, and this should be enough,

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Bernardo Barros
Angel, If AUR is a sucessgul project, it is not because of this kind of language you use. Be friendly to your fellow Arch friends. I'm sure that if the other TU would share this language, another project similar to AUR would pop up elsewhere.

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ionuț Bîru
Ok, some of the messages from this thread started to became offtopic. Here is my 2 cents and consider this being my last message. We always had an unspoken rule about sending a "thank you" note but we are all humans and forgot. Have my word that I spoke with the members that forgot and this wo

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > On Monday, February 07, 2011 12:22:41 Ángel Velásquez wrote: >> 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : >> > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: >> >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : >> >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an >> >> > ownership, but

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Monday, February 07, 2011 12:22:41 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > 2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : > >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an > >> > ownership, but more like an authorship. Is it

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/7 Yaro Kasear : > On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: >> 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : >> > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership, >> > but more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the >> > author by a polite question

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Yaro Kasear
On Saturday, February 05, 2011 14:49:49 Ángel Velásquez wrote: > 2011/2/5 Nicky726 : > > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership, > > but more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the > > author by a polite question? After all we are people, no

[aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-07 Thread Martti Kühne
Hello official and inofficial maintainers and AUR devs. Following the discussion in aur-general, I think some automation could solve many issues at once here. Justin Davis' community-blacklist patch is an approach in about the right direction although in relation to the discussion concerning t

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-06 Thread Rafael Beraldo
I maintain a few PKGBUILDs on AUR, including one that has a considerable amount of votes [1]. It would be awesome to have any package that I maintain moved to [community], it doesn't matter if the TU asked me or not, but this is a personal opinion. Nevertheless, it is certainly polite to write a co

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-06 Thread Xyne
Ángel Velásquez wrote: > We eventually show our respect to the author to notice him that we do > will move your package, but it's arrogant and too stupid to pretend > that a TU or Dev have to `ask you for permission` <--- THIS IS > MADNESS, you aren't the owner of that PKGBUILD ! even if you wrote

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Allan McRae
I'll just add here that I used to use moving packages to [community] as a TU recruitment ground. If the package I wanted to move to [community] was obviously well maintained, I usually offered to sponsor the maintainer to be a TU when I let them know I was going to move their package. I think

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Kaiting Chen
I always send the maintainer a 'thank you' afterwards telling them that I've moved their package to [community] and asking them if they have any specific advise about the package. My personal opinion is that it is not necessary to ask beforehand when moving a package simply because in my experience

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 3:10 PM, Jelle van der Waa wrote: > I apologize for taking your package without emailing or notifiying you and > more I feel bad for not replying to your email. And now i am ashamed on the > mailing list, > > I won't forget to mail the next time I adopt packages and move th

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Eric Waller
I have contributed a few PKGBUILDs to AUR. I do it because I enjoy it -- all I ask is for is recognition. Yes, this is an open source project and it is implicit that the work can and (hopefully) be adopted and improved. But recognition of each person who contributed should be maintained. I am n

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ray Rashif
On 6 February 2011 06:01, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > I don't think that Hilton was trolling you Maxime, just poking a little fun > at Jelle. He was so engrossed with moving a package (think about the excitement he must have had) that he forgot about the formalities involved.

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ray Rashif
On 6 February 2011 03:35, Ionuț Bîru wrote: > I moved a lot of packages from AUR in community/extra and every time i did > sent a "thank you" note. From that amount of messages i sent, only once i > got a reply. ONCE. > > Should i be dissapointed? I guess yes. I am? No. No need. The first comment

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Nicky726
Hi Angel, > This is opensource world dude, can you see it?, so forget those > "autorship" and "license" of those PKGBUILD, plus, in many cases, many > of the packages went from one people to another. Btw I don't know why > people refers to packages when we are talking about aurballs > containing P

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 2:50 PM, Maxime Wack wrote: > Le -10/01/-28163 20:59, Hilton Medeiros a écrit : > > > >> Now, that is outrageous. Stealing your package is already a very nasty >> thing to do, but not replying to your email is unforgivable! >> >> From today onwards we shall call him: Je

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Maxime Wack
Le -10/01/-28163 20:59, Hilton Medeiros a écrit : Now, that is outrageous. Stealing your package is already a very nasty thing to do, but not replying to your email is unforgivable! From today onwards we shall call him: Jelle, the Soulless. Wow, I didn't expect to be trolled on aur-gen

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh : > 2011/2/6 Ángel Velásquez : >> 2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh : >>> Hi, >>> >>> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the >>> process feels a little uneasy to me. >> >> First of all remove that "my" before packages, that's a problem, some >> maintainers

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Hilton Medeiros
On Sat, 05 Feb 2011 21:00:32 +0100 Maxime Wack wrote: > I had the same "problem" a few weeks ago, when the polipo package I > was maintaining was moved to [Community] without any notice. I got > aware of this when yaourt told me my version of polipo was not the > same as in the repos… imagine my

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/5 Nicky726 : > > To Angel Velasquez: the nature of the relation is not like an ownership, but > more like an authorship. Is it that much to show your respect to the author by > a polite question? After all we are people, not mindless machines nor animals. > Hi Nicky, This is opensource wor

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Gergely Imreh
2011/2/6 Ángel Velásquez : > 2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh : >> Hi, >> >> Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the >> process feels a little uneasy to me. > > First of all remove that "my" before packages, that's a problem, some > maintainers thinks that they're owners of the

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Xyne
Gergely Imreh wrote: > Hi, > > Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the > process feels a little uneasy to me. > > My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second class" source of > packages compared to the official repos. Not surprising, of course, so > many packa

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Stéphane Gaudreault
Le 5 février 2011 13:45:20, Thomas S Hatch a écrit : > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Gergely Imreh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the > > process feels a little uneasy to me. > > > > My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second cl

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:57 PM, Thomas Dziedzic wrote: > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer > > wrote: > > > >> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > >> > Greg, You have a valid point, personally

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Jelle van der Waa
On Sat, 2011-02-05 at 21:00 +0100, Maxime Wack wrote: > I had the same "problem" a few weeks ago, when the polipo package I was > maintaining was moved to [Community] without any notice. I got aware of > this when yaourt told me my version of polipo was not the same as in the > repos… imagine m

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ray Rashif
On 6 February 2011 02:31, Gergely Imreh wrote: > Hi, > > Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the > process feels a little uneasy to me. This has come up a couple of times before, and we all know it is very wrong to move a package from [unsupported] _without prior not

[aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Maxime Wack
I had the same "problem" a few weeks ago, when the polipo package I was maintaining was moved to [Community] without any notice. I got aware of this when yaourt told me my version of polipo was not the same as in the repos… imagine my surprise when I didn't find my package on AUR anymore. Not th

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas Dziedzic
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 1:13 PM, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer > wrote: > >> On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: >> > Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the >> maintainer >> > of a package for objection

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Nicky726
Hi, fellow Archers, I feel a need to express my support to the opinion stated by Greg Imreh and Thomas Hatch. There is an unique relation between the contributor/maintainer and the PKGBUILD. This relation calls for respect. So please TUs/devs act as people and show it by letting first the cont

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Isaac Dupree
It would be technologically helpful if moving a package to Community (or just deleting it from the AUR) did not consign its AUR comments to the eternal bit bucket in the sky. At any rate, I often wish I could see what was on the AUR page just before it was moved. ((if you want an example:: O

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ionuț Bîru
On 02/05/2011 08:31 PM, Gergely Imreh wrote: Hi, Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the process feels a little uneasy to me. I moved a lot of packages from AUR in community/extra and every time i did sent a "thank you" note. From that amount of messages i sent,

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 12:05 PM, Lukas Fleischer wrote: > On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > > Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the > maintainer > > of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I > also > > want to c

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Lukas Fleischer
On Sat, Feb 05, 2011 at 11:45:20AM -0700, Thomas S Hatch wrote: > Greg, You have a valid point, personally I have always asked the maintainer > of a package for objections before moving a package into community. I also > want to continue to express my deep gratitude for the packagers who > contribu

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Ángel Velásquez
2011/2/5 Gergely Imreh : > Hi, > > Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the > process feels a little uneasy to me. First of all remove that "my" before packages, that's a problem, some maintainers thinks that they're owners of the PKGBUILD, and isn't like this, all PKG

Re: [aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Thomas S Hatch
On Sat, Feb 5, 2011 at 11:31 AM, Gergely Imreh wrote: > Hi, > > Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the > process feels a little uneasy to me. > > My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second class" source of > packages compared to the official repos. Not surpri

[aur-general] Moving packages to Community

2011-02-05 Thread Gergely Imreh
Hi, Recently a couple of my packages have been moved to Community but the process feels a little uneasy to me. My impression is that AUR is treated as a "second class" source of packages compared to the official repos. Not surprising, of course, so many packages have problems. This is also underl

Re: [aur-general] moving packages to community

2010-12-05 Thread Ike Devolder
On Sunday 05 December 2010 17:21:16 Kaiting Chen wrote: > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Ike Devolder wrote: > > > Thx guys for letting me know you would move some packages from AUR to > > community > > > > thats really stimulating to contribute something > > > > if you dont know what i'm talkin

Re: [aur-general] moving packages to community

2010-12-05 Thread Andrea Scarpino
On Sunday, December 05, 2010 11:21:16 AM Kaiting Chen wrote: > I'm confused, are you the maintainer of these packages in the AUR? Usually > we will notify the maintainer of a package if it is moved from [unsupported] > to [community]. --Kaiting. Seems that Sergej didn't this time... -- Andrea Sca

Re: [aur-general] moving packages to community

2010-12-05 Thread Kaiting Chen
On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Ike Devolder wrote: > Thx guys for letting me know you would move some packages from AUR to > community > > thats really stimulating to contribute something > > if you dont know what i'm talking about > > - libssh2 ( i picked it up after bash dropped it in AUR) > -

[aur-general] moving packages to community

2010-12-05 Thread Ike Devolder
Thx guys for letting me know you would move some packages from AUR to community thats really stimulating to contribute something if you dont know what i'm talking about - libssh2 ( i picked it up after bash dropped it in AUR) - podofo (cant remember how i picked it up) It would just be a little

[aur-general] Moving packages to community

2009-11-08 Thread Angel Velásquez
Hi everyone, I'd like to move the following packages to community: 1) pspshrink [1] 2) ntlmaps [2] In fact I am writting a wiki page about using ntlmaps through the Arch Linux Installation for complementing the begginer guide :). Opinions? [1] http://aur.archlinux.org/packages.php?ID=17076 [2]