[Aus-soaring] IMPROVED GOVERNANCE DIRECT ELECTION OF THE GFA BOARD

2008-05-30 Thread Geoff Kidd
Robert Based on the data in your post below, GQ is to be commended on many of these initiatives. Are the other States moving towards a similar arrangement? Now, from GQ's experience with your Item 4, can you advise why the GFA Board should not be directly elected from the membership? I

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-30 Thread Tim Shirley
Hi all, Speaking only as a pilot (and I can now, since I no longer have a position on NCC) it puzzles me about what the difference is, except for putting wave and cloud flying out of play. There is a natural upper limit before the start - it is either the top of convection or cloudbase. If

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 09:24 AM 30/05/2008, you wrote: Mike Borgelt wrote: People like Jenny and Robert Hart and others who don't have problem with all this will never be able to understand or fix the problem. Good grief, Mike If you think that I don't have a problem with the way the GFA is run, then you have

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Robert Hart
Mike You've nicely made my point. You are too close to the problem, you operate quite happily within the GFA system and as far as I can see the changes you want relate to administrative procedures inside the current system. BTW when I hear management buzzwords like world's best practice and

Re: [Aus-soaring] IMPROVED GOVERNANCE DIRECT ELECTION OF THE GFA BOARD

2008-05-30 Thread Robert Hart
Geoff Kidd wrote: *Robert* Based on the data in your post below, GQ is to be commended on many of these initiatives. Are the other States moving towards a similar arrangement? I had thought that NSW was headed that way - but nothing has happened yet that I am aware of. Now, from

[Aus-soaring] [Fwd: New GFA Insurances Summary]

2008-05-30 Thread Robert Hart
Original Message Subject:New GFA Insurances Summary Date: Fri, 30 May 2008 16:55:05 +0800 From: John Welsh [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Folks, OAMPS has provided a new GFA Insurances summary, which has been posted on the GFA website at:

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-30 Thread Bruce Taylor
Firstly a great big thank you to Gerrit, for his insight into the start procedure dilemma - if it isn't broken, why fix it? Tim, I agree completely that there is no issue with putting wave and cloud flying out of play, despite the fact that gaining advantage from using such techniques is

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Emilis Prelgauskas
On Fri, 30 May 2008 09:24:35 +1000, Robert Hart wrote: You tell me who is more likely to actually change the GFA - someone who sits outside and endlessly criticises whilst doing absolutely nothing towards creating change (but never-the-less lives off the GFA membership) or someone who, despite

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Geoff Kidd
Al You might do well to have another squizz at some of the latest dangerous little ultralight things with common engine failures. They have moved on a tad from those days: As one example, and there are now many, have a look at http://www.millennium-aircraft.com and consider: a..

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-30 Thread Adam Woolley
Fair call... What I'd like to see though, is that the start speed is above 80kts - so that you basically dont have to think about it. Ooops - that does sound like, you must cross above 80kts! I meant it as it was written, but I intended it to be interpreted as a speed limit. ie, make it

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Al Borowski
Hi Geoff, I got my RAA cert in a Tecnam with a Rotax 912 - http://alpage.ath.cx/tecnamsierra.jpg is my latest toy. I feel much safer in it then a 30 year old Cessna 172. I was joking about the dangerous ultralight thing because that's what the average Joe thinks about ultralights. 166 knots

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
How does a glider pilot operate outside the GFA? Its pretty easy. Talk to me off list Al. Chris McDonnell - Original Message - From: Al Borowski To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA,

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-30 Thread Gary Stevenson
Hi All, A little bit of time has passed since BT first raised this issue, and we now have substantially more input. Ross's post sheds some light on the current state of play by the NCC. Obviously I was not at the last Junior's Pilot Meeting, but I was certainly present at the other two

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Gary Stevenson
Emilis, You are as opaque as ever, but I am glad to see that you are (I think!) reminding the young pups that you and your fellow musketeers ( for example MB, PR. RQ) got off your chargers and also did some very boring paper work in days of yore in an (almost forgotten) Golden Age of

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA

2008-05-30 Thread swk
Emilis isn't that opaque. His writing is usually clear enough, even if he sometimes leaves some things only half said (and leaves the audience to join the dots). He used the expression coming future (a tautology, yes) but he never said it was good or bad. The words golden and age weren't

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Nigel Andrews
Why not let us all know? If it's legal it will be off interest - makes this forum useful. Nig _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher Mc Donnell Sent: Friday, 30 May 2008 10:33 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-30 Thread james crowhurst
Ross, You still haven't answered my question. Why was this rule change initiated and why was it deemed necessary to implement it? these are simple questions that no-one seems able to answer. In reply to Gary's e-mail, I have used the British system many times and I recall a comp at

[Aus-soaring] Industrial designer

2008-05-30 Thread Mal Bruce
Is anyone a industrial designer in this group. Mal___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread JR
Ham and Eggs A days work for a chicken, a lifetime commitment for a Pig regards JR - Original Message - From: Nigel Andrews To: 'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.' Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 7:36 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and

Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the GFA

2008-05-30 Thread Gary Stevenson
Francis Ning of DDSC tells me that PIG = Partner In Gliding! Gary - Original Message - From: JR To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ; Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2008 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] GFA, marketing and democracy in the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Industrial designer

2008-05-30 Thread Tom Wilksch
Yep Well about to be anyway. The glider sim is my final year project Tom - Original Message - From: Mal Bruce To: aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net Sent: Friday, May 30, 2008 10:40 PM Subject: [Aus-soaring] Industrial designer Is anyone a industrial designer in this

Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures

2008-05-30 Thread Ross McLean
Hi Jim NCC is responding to a motion put at the Temora Multi Class Pilots meeting, and as I can't put an attachment on an AusSoaring email I will extract the minute point for you, ( I am happy to email the minutes to you off list): 3. Height and Speed Restriction at Start Point: David

[Aus-soaring] Industrial designer glider tracking

2008-05-30 Thread Mal Bruce
Great news Tom send me your contact numbers I will call on the Voip if your interested in helping out with a custom designed tracking system for gliders. We may get $20,000.00 towards the development and implementation. I am looking for all your thoughts of what is needed. It will use Global