Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Gage
Sadly, whilst it was great to see a new glider on the air, nothing can be taken from the comp in terms of potential performance. The 20m class had far more to do with the pilots than the gliders. The Jones brothers would still have won flying a DG505! I got to see it close up for a short

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Scutter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xrDLQ61474 Standard class definitely seems to be better at high speed. 750kg AUW in 20m class probably doesn't help them either, or at least not with 16sqm of wing. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Matt Gage m...@knightschallenge.com wrote: Sadly, whilst it

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next 12 months. Available as pure glider/ Jet Sustainer and BinderSolo powered self launcher. http://hphuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TwinShark_20m_p4.pdf A new self-launching Shark 304MS will be delivered

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Harry
Hi All, Speaking as an Arcus pilot for a year, the comments of Matt Gage re performance are spot on. The two seaters and this includes the big wings such a Nimbuses and Ashes, all with their large fuselages, just can’t perform at speed when compared with the better ballasted single seaters,

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Derek Ruddock
That rear instrument panel leaves a lot to be desired From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Robert Izatt Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 8:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re:

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Scutter
Is the wing area wrong in that document or the polar? Because 800kg/15.38sqm (52kg/sqm) does not match the 800kg @ 46kg/sqm on the polar. On 11 Jul 2014 08:42, Robert Izatt thebunyipboo...@gmail.com wrote: Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Thanks for that Matthew. The 52 is correct. I will advise the factory about the polar/weight number on the brochure. Cheers Rob On 11/07/2014, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Scutter wrote: Is the wing area wrong in that document or the polar? Because 800kg/15.38sqm (52kg/sqm) does not match the 800kg

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Designed to take just the 9000 display. The photo is a demo cockpit built for the last AERO show. It is a work in progress. Cheers Rob On 11/07/2014, at 11:40 AM, Derek Ruddock wrote: That rear instrument panel leaves a lot to be desired From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net