Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-05 Thread Rob Colleen Moore
To: mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netDiscussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Ian McPhee wrote: OK OK Dave but we should still vet the +50s or give them points like

RE: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-05 Thread Mark Fisher
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian McPhee Sent: Monday, 5 September 2005 8:40 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Sorry I am still going on about this topic -It takes me guess

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-04 Thread Ian McPhee
they can thermal and don't get shot down)Ian McPhee - Original Message - From: Leigh Bunting To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-04 Thread VHGNJ
I entered gliding at age 40 and I expect to be around gliding until I'm at least ninety, don't you? Grant Harper ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit:

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-01 Thread Leigh Bunting
Ian McPhee wrote: OK OK Dave but we should still vet the +50s or give them points like a bank account like, Skiing, motorbikes, sailing etc. No other skills then they go to the wait list - our time is much better spent into teaching the good ones Macca Sad but true. As an 'old

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Ian McPhee
: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? I read the link below. Seems that thosewho participate in gliding do so before regular sex and after they can't remember what it was :-) Nowif anybody knows a marketer

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Dave Shorter
: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? It is a problem teaching the 50+ group - think they should have a tax to rebate young peoples flying. I learnt as a teenager and we got money back thru "Royal Aero Clubs" for when we earnt our C or was it our

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Bob Flood
- Original Message - From: Dave Shorter To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Hey Macca, Don't knock us 50+ lot. Some of us

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Michael Shirley
relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? It is a problem teaching the 50+ group - think they should have a tax to rebate young peoples flying. I

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Ian McPhee
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Hey Macca, Don't knock us 50+ lot. Some of us didn't discover gliding quite as early as you

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-30 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff Kidd wrote: Seehttp://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "Membership: ItÂ’s not a

RE: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-30 Thread Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff Kidd wrote: Seehttp://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled Membership: Its not a pretty picture. It may however be totally accurate - for here - as well

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-30 Thread Terry Neumann
urrent socio-ecconomic climate. Regards, Terry Regards Geoff - Original Message - From: Terry Neumann To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A N

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-29 Thread Geoff Kidd
What is Terry's email address please. - Original Message - From: Mark Newton To: Robert Hart Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-29 Thread Mark Newton
Geoff Kidd wrote: What is Terry's email address please. It's on GFA's web site under GFA Development Officer -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-29 Thread Terry Neumann
Geoff Kidd wrote: Seehttp://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "Membership: Its not a pretty picture". It may however be totally accurate - for here - as well as for New Zealand. That's the scary thing about writing out a blank

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-29 Thread Geoff Kidd
ing to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff Kidd wrote: Seehttp://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "Me

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Geoff Kidd
2005 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Robert Hart wrote: Geoff Kidd wrote: I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on key issues such as marketing etc. Agreed - but only after some extensive consultation in-

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Robert Hart
Mark Newton wrote: Don't agree, Robert. The goals are already known; Extensive consultation with the members is going to deliver the same outcome we're already talking about here, namely that the sport needs to be grown. First of all, that is only a part of the business plan. I grant you

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 12:19 AM 28/08/05 +1000, you wrote: They couldn't afford the weekend after weekend of little flying. They have money and are prepared to book in, lay down their cash and come away satisfied at having acheived their aims. It should be easy to start small like this. Dave L

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
dto the full as long as I can. Chris McDonnell - Original Message - From: Geoff Kidd To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOT

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2005-08-28 Thread Boonahgliding
ting to Soaring in Australia." aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.netSubject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??Date: 28/08/2005 21:12 I read the link below. Seems that thosewho participate in gliding do so before regular sex and after they can't remember what it w

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Mark Newton
Robert Hart wrote: Mark Newton wrote: Don't agree, Robert. The goals are already known; Extensive consultation with the members is going to deliver the same outcome we're already talking about here, namely that the sport needs to be grown. First of all, that is only a part of the business

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Patching
- Original Message - From: Geoff Kidd To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 8:11 AM Subject: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? G'day Ian Following the comments received, and in the

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Robert Hart
Geoff, Ian, Emilis and others Interesting posts - thank you. First of all, I would follow up on suggesting a discussion on specific marketing issues with Ian Grant - but would add that your state representative on the MAD c'tee should also be involved. I have not personally met Ian Grant,

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Geoff Kidd
: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff, Ian, Emilis and othersInteresting posts - thank you.First of all, I would follow up on suggesting a discussion on specific marketing issues with Ian Grant - but would add

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Dave and Cath
I havetalked withmany money-rich/time-poor people who have expressed an interest in gliding, but there is no way they will fit in with the traditional gliding structure. They couldn't afford the weekend after weekend of little flying. Tonight I've been to the Lilydale Flying School annual

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Robert Hart
Geoff Kidd wrote: I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on key issues such as marketing etc. Agreed - but only after some extensive consultation in-house - ie with the members. It is the members' organisation and they should have the major say in the direction

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Mark Newton
Robert Hart wrote: Geoff Kidd wrote: I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on key issues such as marketing etc. Agreed - but only after some extensive consultation in-house - ie with the members. It is the members' organisation and they should have the major

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Geoff Kidd
n of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? Robert Hart wrote: Geoff Kidd wrote: I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on key issues such as marke

[Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-26 Thread Geoff Kidd
G'day Ian Following the comments received, and in the knowledge that this Forum is viewed by plenty of high profile individuals with plenty of horsepower ... sorry L/D ...in the GFA and elsewhere, I have decided to float my suggestion here and risk getting shot down here by my peers.

RE: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-26 Thread Stuart Kerri FERGUSON
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION MEMBERSHIP?? G'day Ian Following the comments received, and in the knowledge that this Forum is viewed by plenty of high profile individuals with plenty of horsepower ... sorry