Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-31 Thread Stuart & Kerri Ferguson
-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > Received: Friday, 30 October, 2009, 7:51 PM On 30/10/2009, at 6:52 PM, Paul Bart wrote: Can you mention some cars that did please? I was not aware of any

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-31 Thread tom claffey
h a little Honda generator purring away as an APU while driving and parked?:] Tom --- On Fri, 30/10/09, Mark Newton wrote: From: Mark Newton Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.&quo

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-30 Thread emilis prelgauskas
On 30/10/2009, at 7:21 PM, Mark Newton wrote: So I'm not particularly convinced by the Prius.  Yes, they crank an impressive car out of a tiny engine, but Mark is absolutely right about the fuel consumption if you drive Prii the way he describes. Driving it like a conventional ICE only car w

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Newton
On 30/10/2009, at 6:52 PM, Paul Bart wrote: Can you mention some cars that did please? I was not aware of any that did that well then, particularly if size is comparable. Do not get me wrong, I am no friend of Prius. The Prius specifications claim 3.9L/100km, which is equivalent to 60 MP

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-30 Thread Paul Bart
Can you mention some cars that did please? I was not aware of any that did that well then, particularly if size is comparable. Do not get me wrong, I am no friend of Prius. Cheers Paul 2009/10/30 Mark Newton > > > On 30/10/2009, at 11:10, tom claffey wrote: > > Mike raises an interesting

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-30 Thread Mark Newton
On 30/10/2009, at 11:10, tom claffey wrote: Mike raises an interesting point about older cars. We often hear about getting "clunkers" off the road because of pollution or fuel economy. Which is especially hilarious when applied to "clunkers" designed during the 70's oil shock, which of

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 10:44 AM 30/10/2009, you wrote: Ha! yeah right. This is the completely wrong thing to be putting the electric motor in. The tug is the problem not the solution. Its the GLIDER that needs to be electric!! Anyway here is some calculation that may or may not be correct: Taking 100l of avgas

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Todd Sandercock
regeneration would be extremely low. Todd From: Mike Borgelt To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 8:20:40 AM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity At 07:25 AM 30

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread tom claffey
ould love one but also need a powerfull long distance 4wd [anyone guess why?] We should pay for km driven, not cars owned - how come rego for a car doing 5000km a year is the same as one doing 15km a year!!!?? Tom --- On Thu, 29/10/09, Mike Borgelt wrote: From: Mike Borgelt Subject: Re: [Aus-s

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Catherine Conway
I'm impressed by the winch/retrieve winch system I saw at Midlands Soaring Club Long Mynd UK. they were LPG powered but elwcric would be cool. 30-40 launches an hour. Quicker and more cost effective than a tug Cath Sent from my iPhone On 30/10/2009, at 7:55 AM, Robert Hart wrote: Mike

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:23 AM 30/10/2009, you wrote: Some of us have looked at this a while ago, after seeing some of the developments at Oshkosh, it is possible, just the cost involved at the time for the batteries stopped it Mechanically its easy, Electrically its easy with off the shelf gear, Now CASA could

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Ben Jones
Some of us have looked at this a while ago, after seeing some of the developments at Oshkosh, it is possible, just the cost involved at the time for the batteries stopped it Mechanically its easy, Electrically its easy with off the shelf gear, Now CASA could be the problem. Regards Ben E

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:25 AM 30/10/2009, you wrote: Mike Borgelt wrote: Somebody really ought to look at electric towplanes too. It might just be the first real practical use for an electric aircraft and the economics compared to an I.C. engined towplane just might even make some sense. I would expect the v

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Robert Hart
Mike Borgelt wrote: Somebody really ought to look at electric towplanes too. It might just be the first real practical use for an electric aircraft and the economics compared to an I.C. engined towplane just might even make some sense. I would expect the viability to be significantly im

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
Oh, I forgot - the link to the last post came from here: http://green.autoblog.com/2009/10/28/gm-volt-founder-stranded-learns-why-evs-take-so-long-to-bring-t/ heh. Mike Borgelt Instruments - manufacturers of quality soaring instruments since 1978 phone Int'l + 61 746 355784 fax Int'l + 61 74

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
Here's another one for the electric car enthusiasts/climate change tragics/tax farming, rent seeking planet savers: http://www.theage.com.au/drive/motor-news/mini-plans-electric-vehicle-trial-for-australia-20091027-hhj8.html We might eventually get somewhat decent batteries for electric se

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 05:28 PM 29/10/2009, you wrote: On 28/10/2009, at 6:41 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: It really is a pity you can't run a high tech civilization on pixie dust, unicorn farts and good intentions. Thank you Mike, and while governments do nothing (as you request), and doubters expend their energy d

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-29 Thread emilis prelgauskas
On 28/10/2009, at 6:41 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: It really is a pity you can't run a high tech civilization on pixie dust, unicorn farts and good intentions. Thank you Mike, and while governments do nothing (as you request), and doubters expend their energy doubting; some people go out and co

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 07:50 AM 29/10/2009, you wrote: What about not using a car. People should just live a reasonable distance from their work and/or play then just ride or walk there. Easy fixed Todd That used to be the situation before modern technology came along and increased economic opportunity by incre

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Todd Sandercock
What about not using a car. People should just live a reasonable distance from their work and/or play then just ride or walk there. Easy fixed Todd On 29/10/2009, at 7:12 AM, Mike Borgelt wrote: At 06:58 PM 28/10/2009, Todd Sandercock wrote: Is cost what its all about mike??? No, I always see

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:58 PM 28/10/2009, Todd Sandercock wrote: Is cost what its all about mike??? No, I always seek to spend far more money than necessary to get a particular job done. Don't you? :-) Seriously, when talking about personal transportation, cars are a very good solution. Why would you want to

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 06:41 PM 28/10/2009, you wrote: With the recharging problem, I heard an interesting idea on BBC radio a while ago. There was someone in the US lobbying for the idea of "swap stations", where there would be a universal standard of battery size, type, positioning, mounting system (quick rele

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Todd Sandercock
Is cost what its all about mike??? From: Dion Stuart Baker To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wed, 28 October, 2009 7:11:12 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity With the

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Dion Stuart Baker
With the recharging problem, I heard an interesting idea on BBC radio a while ago. There was someone in the US lobbying for the idea of "swap stations", where there would be a universal standard of battery size, type, positioning, mounting system (quick release) etc. This would then enable there t

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread emilis prelgauskas
Hi Mike, I'm Rachel, Emilis's partner. You need to listen to Simon's answers to all of this. Actually you have the wrong end of the stick, particularly when it comes to battery technology and cost compared to petrol. (And I know how good you are at what you do!) Incidentally, they officially

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 10:52 AM 28/10/2009, you wrote: I was wondering if SImon was going to take that thing on the run. I got the feeling he would afetr I heard he can't get it registered in Aus (bit stupid really, considering the whole saving the environment thing ...) It's a bit of a shame that he has to have

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-27 Thread Dion Stuart Baker
I was wondering if SImon was going to take that thing on the run. I got the feeling he would afetr I heard he can't get it registered in Aus (bit stupid really, considering the whole saving the environment thing ...) It's a bit of a shame that he has to have a truck and generator follow him though

Re: [Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-27 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 10:05 AM 28/10/2009, you wrote: http://www.wired.com/autopia/2009/10/tesla-313-miles/ ___ here's another take on this: http://www.smh.com.au/drive/green-motoring/v8-turbo-on-track-for-green-challenge-glory-20091026-hf83.html LOL! Mike Borgelt

[Aus-soaring] Glider pilots applying their skills to another activity

2009-10-27 Thread Catherine Conway
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