Just wondering if there is general knowledge of the new start procedures for
Aussie nationals? I first heard of it last w/e at Kingaroy.
Seems we will be both height and speed limited - obviously one must not be
implemented without the other, and all this with the same style of "beer can"
start
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Ross McLean wrote:
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>3. *Height and Speed Restriction at Start Point:*
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> David Jansen proposed a maximum st
on this rule change
and the reasons for it. Then I would like to see the rule overturned.
Jim
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Just wondering if there is general knowledge of the new start procedures for
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> Hi Bruce
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I agree it is a change that brings unnecessary risk to an already high
workload situation, when ideally the focus is on looking out.
Aside from agreeing at the pilots meeting that it would bring in unnecesary
complication when the workload is already high, the general consensus wa
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Bruce,
I hear the same rumour. I went to the GFA website and foun
Jo Davis wrote:
I agree it is a change that brings unnecessary risk to an already
high workload situation, when ideally the focus is on looking out.
Aside from agreeing at the pilots meeting that it would bring in
unnecesary complication when the workload is already high, the general
consens
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Subject: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures
Just wondering if there is general knowledge of the new start procedures for
Aussie nationals? I first heard of it last w/e at Kingaroy.
Seems we wi
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Jim
If you go to the following link on the GFA website you will find the current
set of rules, V1.53 August 2007.
http://www.gfa.org.au/index.php?option=com_content&task=view
to recount their story.
Kevin
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Ross,
Yup thats the way it works, please be
Hi Ross,
I apologise if I have spoken out of turn, but I was under the impression that
this start rule change was already in situ - you sent me a "draft" copy for the
new operation guide, so does this mean that we are far from setting all of this
in concrete? It feels to most of us, including m
Mark Said:
"Hey, how about team flying, that would be a great idea?? It might become fun
again also."
I say, hear hear (or here here!)! But then again, it's not much fun for the
people who don't know how to effictively team fly... Is leaching allowed
everyday though!! haha :)
My thoug
Hi all,
Speaking only as a pilot (and I can now, since I no longer have a
position on NCC) it puzzles me about what the difference is, except for
putting wave and cloud flying out of play.
There is a natural upper limit before the start - it is either the top
of convection or cloudbase. If
lass
nationals) then I am content to live with a rule that manages this restriction
safely. The current rule changes do NOT do this.
BT
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for it!
Regards,
WPP
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Firstly a great big thank you to Gerrit, for his insight into the start
procedure dilemma - if it isn't broken, why fix it?
Tim, I agree completely
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Jim
If you go to the following link on the GFA website you will find the current
set of rules, V1.53 August 2007.
http://www.gfa.org.au/in
Of james
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Bruce, I hear the same rumour. I went to the GFA website and found only the
2001 rules and so cannot substantiate this change in the rules.
NCC. Incorporated into National Competition task setting
guidelines.
Regards, ROSS
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Ross McLean wrote:
3. *Height and Speed Restriction at Start Point:*
David Jansen proposed a maximum starting height and speed for all
National Competitions. This system was encountered by David & Graham
Parker at the 2007 18m Pre-Worlds and removes the potential for early
launched pilots
I have to say that was my recollection also.
Cheers
Mark> Date: Sat, 31 May 2008 16:04:30 +1000> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:
aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Start
procedures> > Ross McLean wrote:> >> > 3. *Height and Spe
2008 4:05 PM
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Ross McLean wrote:
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>3. *Height and Speed Restriction at Start Point:*
>
> David Jansen proposed a maximum starting height and speed for all
> National Co
Thanks Ross.
Much clearer now.
Jim
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Guys
Please see my previous emails on this topic.
30 May:
“If you go to the following link on the GFA website
o Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Start procedures
Ross McLean wrote:
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>3. *Height and Speed Restriction at Start Point:*
>
> David Jansen proposed a maximum starting height and speed for all
> National Competitions. This system was encountered by David & Grah
ve to say that was my recollection also.
Cheers
Mark
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Hear hear dave. Spot on.
Regards
Glenn
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Message for the NCC.
Dear Ross,
I have refrained from entering
o and will
continue to do.
Thanks for your input, appreciated.
ROSS
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If you fly the State comps from DDSC, they have a defacto max start height
anyway - called Oakey airspace, usually 7,000ft
Nig
Mark Said:
"Hey, how about team flying, that would be a great idea?? It might become
fun again also."
I say, hear hear (or here here!)! But then again, it
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