Re: [Aus-soaring] [World comps in Finland

2014-06-24 Thread Gary Stevenson
Hi Mandy, Many thanks for your input re how to link up with the current state of play. I don't recall the exact details, but a few years ago, I do recall that for Bruce Taylor, the penny dropped, and he stated that (from hard learned experience), he was not from that point on, prepared to fly in c

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread Robert Izatt
Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product here but we don't need the "Yesterday I was asked to translate the report on the 20m Multi-seat clas" excuse to do so. Rob Izatt On 10/07/2014, at 2:02 AM, Future Aviation wrote: > Good morning all > > Yesterday I was

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread glider driver
I've looked pretty hard; but can't seem to find the comp report on the website... any hints on where to find it please? Apologies if I am missing something! Thanks, Caleb On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 8:08 AM, Robert Izatt wrote: > Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your pr

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread DMcD
>>Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product here And surely if it is not a promotion, it would be correct to mention the complete domination of the 20M class by Arcus gliders except for this lone ASG 32 and a DG-1000M? D

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread Mark Newton
On Jul 10, 2014, at 8:08 AM, Robert Izatt wrote: > Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product > here but we don't need the "Yesterday I was asked to translate the report on > the 20m Multi-seat clas" excuse to do so. > Rob Izatt We’ve had this discussion before

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread Future Aviation
of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland >>Bernard I personally don't have a problem with you promoting your product here And surely if it is not a promotion, it would be correct to mention the complete domination of the 20M cla

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread Mike Borgelt
al Message- From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of DMcD Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2014 2:40 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland >>Bernard I perso

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-09 Thread DMcD
>> unlike the grotesque Arcus Well it's difficult to see in the pic, but I guess that the ASG-32 is entirely devoid of those terrible speed robbing bumps. Still, they don't seem to rob that much speed. D ___ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.i

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matt Gage
Sadly, whilst it was great to see a new glider on the air, nothing can be taken from the comp in terms of potential performance. The 20m class had far more to do with the pilots than the gliders. The Jones brothers would still have won flying a DG505! I got to see it close up for a short period

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Scutter
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xrDLQ61474 Standard class definitely seems to be better at high speed. 750kg AUW in 20m class probably doesn't help them either, or at least not with 16sqm of wing. On Thu, Jul 10, 2014 at 10:12 PM, Matt Gage wrote: > Sadly, whilst it was great to see a new glid

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next 12 months. Available as pure glider/ Jet Sustainer and BinderSolo powered self launcher. http://hphuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TwinShark_20m_p4.pdf A new self-launching Shark 304MS will be delivered t

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Harry
any time soon. Bernard Eckey will have another excellent glider to market. He may need it when the latest Ventus is released, Harry Medlicott From: Robert Izatt Sent: Friday, July 11, 2014 8:45 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Derek Ruddock
-soaring] World comps in Finland Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First flight in the next 12 months. Available as pure glider/ Jet Sustainer and BinderSolo powered self launcher. http://hphuk.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/TwinShark_20m_p4.pdf A new self

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Matthew Scutter
Is the wing area wrong in that document or the polar? Because 800kg/15.38sqm (52kg/sqm) does not match the 800kg @ 46kg/sqm on the polar. On 11 Jul 2014 08:42, "Robert Izatt" wrote: > Perhaps you should all wait for the new HpH TwinShark from HpH. First > flight in the next 12 months. Available a

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
Thanks for that Matthew. The 52 is correct. I will advise the factory about the polar/weight number on the brochure. Cheers Rob On 11/07/2014, at 11:46 AM, Matthew Scutter wrote: > Is the wing area wrong in that document or the polar? Because 800kg/15.38sqm > (52kg/sqm) does not match the 800k

Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland

2014-07-10 Thread Robert Izatt
de.on.net > [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Robert Izatt > Sent: Friday, 11 July 2014 8:45 AM > To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World comps in Finland > > Perhaps you should all wait for the