Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Geoff Kidd
28, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Robert Hart wrote:> Geoff Kidd wrote:> >> I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on >> key issues such as marketing etc.> > Agreed - but

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Robert Hart
Mark Newton wrote: Don't agree, Robert. The goals are already known; Extensive consultation with the members is going to deliver the same outcome we're already talking about here, namely that the sport needs to be grown. First of all, that is only a part of the business plan. I grant you it'

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Mike Borgelt
At 12:19 AM 28/08/05 +1000, you wrote: > They couldn't afford the weekend after weekend of little flying. >They have money and are prepared to book in, lay down their cash and come >away satisfied at having acheived their aims. It should be easy to >start small like this. Dave L

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
end to enjoy it unfettered and to the full as long as I can.   Chris McDonnell         - Original Message - From: Geoff Kidd To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 6:02 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Boonahgliding
rk Newton To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Robert Hart wrote:> Geoff Kidd wrote:> >> I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional ad

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Mark Newton
Robert Hart wrote: Mark Newton wrote: Don't agree, Robert. The goals are already known; Extensive consultation with the members is going to deliver the same outcome we're already talking about here, namely that the sport needs to be grown. First of all, that is only a part of the business

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Geoff Kidd
What is Terry's email address please.     - Original Message - From: Mark Newton To: Robert Hart Cc: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Monday, August 29, 2005 1:39 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROM

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-28 Thread Mark Newton
Geoff Kidd wrote: What is Terry's email address please. It's on GFA's web site under "GFA Development Officer" -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - mark I tried an internal modem,[EMAIL PROTECTED] but it hurt w

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-29 Thread Terry Neumann
Geoff Kidd wrote: <>See http://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "Membership: It’s not a pretty picture". It may however be totally accurate - for here - as well as for New Zealand. That's the scary thing about writing out a bla

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-29 Thread Geoff Kidd
nn To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff Kidd wrote: <>See http://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=4

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-30 Thread Christopher Mc Donnell
relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff Kidd wrote: <>See http://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article title

RE: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-30 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??   Geoff Kidd wrote: <>See http://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "Membership: It’s not a pretty picture". It ma

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-30 Thread Terry Neumann
Soaring in Australia. Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff Kidd wrote: <>See http://www.glidingmagazine.com/FeatureArticle.asp?id=485 for the NZ article titled "

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Ian McPhee
ia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? I read the link below. Seems that those who participate in gliding do so before regular sex and after they can't remember what it was :-) Now if anybody k

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Dave Shorter
l Message - From: Christopher Mc Donnell To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 9:10 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? I read the link below. Seems th

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Bob Flood
. Bob   - Original Message - From: Dave Shorter To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Hey Macca,   Don't knock us

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Michael Shirley
hee To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 6:41 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? It is a problem teaching the 50+ group - think they should ha

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-31 Thread Ian McPhee
Shorter To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Wednesday, August 31, 2005 8:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Hey Macca,   Don't knock us 50+ lot. Some of us didn't discover gliding qui

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-01 Thread Leigh Bunting
Ian McPhee wrote: OK OK Dave but we should still vet the +50s or give them points like a bank account like, Skiing, motorbikes, sailing etc.  No other skills then they go to the wait list - our time is much better spent into teaching the good ones  Macca Sad but true. As an 'old f

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-04 Thread Ian McPhee
least they can thermal and don't get shot down) Ian McPhee  - Original Message - From: Leigh Bunting To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-05 Thread Rob & Colleen Moore
Bunting To: <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Thursday, September 01, 2005 8:57 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Ian McPhee wrote: OK OK Dave but we should still vet the +50

RE: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-09-05 Thread Mark Fisher
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ian McPhee Sent: Monday, 5 September 2005 8:40 AM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??   Sorry I am still going on about this topic - It t

RE: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-26 Thread Stuart & Kerri FERGUSON
In today’s world we need to be promoting the sport as adventurous and high tech, and what do we need most of all - media exposure.  How do we get it?   Adventurous – most TIFs are Joy Flights regardless of the “element of instruction” that legally turns them into TIFs.  Most people who

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Patching
Geoff, You haven't got it wrong. I have been saying for years that the traditional approach to learning to glide is a thing of the past. I get shot down at my clubs meetings when I push this point. Terry Cubley suggested a similar approach with the clubs in the Wagga area, combining their ba

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Robert Hart
Geoff, Ian, Emilis and others Interesting posts - thank you. First of all, I would follow up on suggesting a discussion on specific marketing issues with Ian Grant - but would add that your state representative on the MAD c'tee should also be involved. I have not personally met Ian Grant, but

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Geoff Kidd
Australia. Sent: Saturday, August 27, 2005 10:08 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Geoff, Ian, Emilis and othersInteresting posts - thank you.First of all, I would follow up on suggesting a discussion on specific marketing issues with Ian G

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Dave and Cath
I have talked with many money-rich/time-poor people who have expressed an interest in gliding, but there is no way they will fit in with the traditional gliding structure.  They couldn't afford the weekend after weekend of little flying. Tonight I've been to the Lilydale Flying School annual

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Robert Hart
Geoff Kidd wrote: I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on key issues such as marketing etc. Agreed - but only after some extensive consultation in-house - ie with the members. It is the members' organisation and they should have the major say in the direction the

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Mark Newton
Robert Hart wrote: Geoff Kidd wrote: I would council the GFA to take (pay for) professional advice on key issues such as marketing etc. Agreed - but only after some extensive consultation in-house - ie with the members. It is the members' organisation and they should have the major say

Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP??

2005-08-27 Thread Geoff Kidd
Message - From: Mark Newton To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Sent: Sunday, August 28, 2005 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] A NEW APPROACH TO GFA PROMOTION & MEMBERSHIP?? Robert Hart wrote:> Geoff Kidd wrote:> >> I would cou