[Axiom-developer] RE: The 30 Year Horizon

2006-11-06 Thread Bill Page
Tim, I worry that some of your statements below might be interpreted badly by some other people important to Axiom. On November 6, 2006 1:53 PM you wrote: > ... > I picked up a collection of source files that were being removed > from commercial distribution and thrown out. The collection was >

[Axiom-developer] RE: The 30 Year Horizon

2006-11-06 Thread Bill Page
Tim, On November 6, 2006 4:06 PM you wrote: > > Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. > And we're not communicating. I think you should try harder to communicate. Communication involves both listening and speaking. You especially need to read email messages more carefully. Actually it see

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga
Gabriel Dos Reis wrote: > While composing this message, I fired the upgrade to the most recent > GCL-2.6.8pre. Do you see any other patches that I may have forgotten > that should go into build-improvements? I still can't pull the svn source on the Mac, so I pulled on a linux box and copied them

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: | Greetings, and thanks so much! | | What about 'golden'? Would it be appropriate to make 'official' axiom | release tarballs from this branch when updated from silver? Or is the | notion of 'release' slower than the progress of 'golden'? Ralf asked me t

[Axiom-developer] Re: The 30 Year Horizon

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. | And we're not communicating. | So I'm going to try something else. [...] | I'm stepping away from the lead developer role and will now | act as just another developer. If you think people want you to step away, th

Re: [Axiom-developer] Aldor compilation for Axiom

2006-11-06 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hello Bill, Thanks a lot for your answer. On 11/06/2006 03:37 AM, Bill Page wrote: On November 5, 2006 7:31 PM Ralf Hemmecke wrote: could someone tell me what ")compile blah.as" is actually doing in Axiom? It is certainly more than saying aldor -O -Fasy -Fao -Flsp -laxiom -Mno-AXL_W_WillObs

[Axiom-developer] Re: The 30 Year Horizon

2006-11-06 Thread root
Ok. Clearly I'm not getting my point across. And we're not communicating. So I'm going to try something else. As of this moment Axiom is a complete democracy. Gaby, I believe you have write access to both Gold and Silver. You also have complete access on sourceforge. If you want contact myself or

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings, and thanks so much! What about 'golden'? Would it be appropriate to make 'official' axiom release tarballs from this branch when updated from silver? Or is the notion of 'release' slower than the progress of 'golden'? Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon

Re: [Axiom-developer] Ping: file removals

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | > Documentation in any form is to be desired and it often cannot be | > created "from the source". | | True. Documentation is not source code but source code i.e. pamphlet | files, can be used to create some of the Axiom documentation. Indeed. Le

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Mon, 6 Nov 2006, Camm Maguire wrote: | Greetings! | | If someone has a moment, could someone please explain to me the | relationship between the various axiom branches, and which one is | connected to an 'official release', and if same at such time will | accompany a tarball or not. Hi Camm,

[Axiom-developer] Re: The 30 Year Horizon

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | I attended a research conference in France and called old developers. I think I was in the room. The idea of open source algebra was enthusiastically embraced. I distinctly remember you vigorously defending the idea that people should gather around Axio

[Axiom-developer] The 30 Year Horizon

2006-11-06 Thread root
> Tim, first I must question your monopoly on stating Axiom goals. Really? Why? Axiom didn't drop magically from the sky. I picked up a collection of source files that were being removed from commercial distribution and thrown out. The collection was not complete and not functional. As one of t

Re: [Axiom-developer] drawRibbons from the book

2006-11-06 Thread Richard Harke
On Mon November 6 2006 10:00, Vanuxem Grégory wrote: > Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 à 19:58 -0800, Richard Harke a écrit : > > [...] > > > When I try to execute with > > drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) > > axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. > > I believe your version

Re: [Axiom-developer] drawRibbons from the book

2006-11-06 Thread Vanuxem Grégory
Le dimanche 05 novembre 2006 à 19:58 -0800, Richard Harke a écrit : [...] > When I try to execute with > drawRibbons([x**i for i in 1..5], x=-1..1, y=0..1) > axiom quietly exits, that is, no error message. I believe your version of Axiom has a bug which was recently fixed in silver and build-imp

Re: [Axiom-developer] lastest tests

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Greetings! > | > | Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > | > Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > > | > | Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it.

Re: [Axiom-developer] lastest tests

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Greetings! | | Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > | Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it. Just a | > | quick note -- when we do commit a bug fix to the proto-stable

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! If someone has a moment, could someone please explain to me the relationship between the various axiom branches, and which one is connected to an 'official release', and if same at such time will accompany a tarball or not. Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hu

Re: [Axiom-developer] lastest tests

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > | Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it. Just a > | quick note -- when we do commit a bug fix to the proto-stable branch, > | kindly also make sure it is fixed in cvs head

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | While composing this message, I fired the upgrade to the most recent | GCL-2.6.8pre. As of revision 252, axiom.build-improvements uses the latest version of GCL-2.6.8pre. | Do you see any other patches that I may have forgotten | that should

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Camm Maguire wrote: | > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from | > both branches. This and the --disable-nls which is now in | > configure.in and passed to the binutils subconfigures should remove | > the above.

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga
Camm Maguire wrote: > OK, I've commited the removal of -lintl from powerpc-macosx.defs from > both branches. This and the --disable-nls which is now in > configure.in and passed to the binutils subconfigures should remove > the above. I.e. ./configure --prefix=... should work, if anyone has > a

Re: [Axiom-developer] lastest tests

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it. Just a | quick note -- when we do commit a bug fix to the proto-stable branch, | kindly also make sure it is fixed in cvs head -- it is the converse | which of course does not apply. Hello Camm

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! May I suggest trying this entry from amd64-linux.h: #ifdef IN_SFASL #include #define CLEAR_CACHE {\ void *p,*pe; \ p=(void *)((unsigned long)memory->cfd.cfd_start & ~(PAGESIZE-1)); \ pe=(void *)((unsigned long)(memory->cfd.cfd_start+memory->cfd.cfd_size) & ~(PAGESIZE-1)) + P

Re: [Axiom-developer] lastest tests

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings, and thanks! I guess I must have beat you to it. Just a quick note -- when we do commit a bug fix to the proto-stable branch, kindly also make sure it is fixed in cvs head -- it is the converse which of course does not apply. Take care, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >

[Axiom-developer] Re: lastest tests

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Thank you so much Tim! The intl patch is in now. Are we also OK on windows? And I guess the last, which may not be that important anymore, is sparc solaris. Take care, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I did a checkout of > > cvs -z9 -q co -d gcl-2.6.8pre -r Version_2_6_8pre gcl > With the

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: Bug#346552: naive methods of exiting axiom can blow up catastrophically

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings, and thanks for looking into this! Waldek Hebisch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I wrote: > > root wrote: > > > Apparently the ptys are opened in raw mode and do not interpret the > > > control characters but pass them down the pipe to AXIOMsys. However > > > the (read) from axiom simply

RE: [Axiom-developer] Ping: file removals

2006-11-06 Thread Bill Page
On November 6, 2006 1:57 AM Tim Daly wrote: > Bill Page wrote: > > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the > > source code repository. > > Eh? Methinks you've missed the whole point of aim of the axiom > project. I certainly don't think so. I am only talking about the Axiom

Re: [Axiom-developer] Re: sock_get_string_buf

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings and thanks! This should be in cvs now. Take care, Humberto Ortiz-Zuazaga <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm Maguire wrote: > > > > Without any path setting? In any case, I jsut checked, and it just > > skips the msgfmt calls now, the libintl et.al. stuff is the same. > > I still wa

Re: [Axiom-developer] RE: gcl-2.6.8pre on MAC OSX 10.2

2006-11-06 Thread Camm Maguire
"Bill Page" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Camm, > > On November 2, 2006 9:22 AM you wrote: > > ... > > Bill Page wrote: > > > > > > Here is a recipe that seems to work for me and avoids reference > > > to fink or other non-gcl related libraries: > > > > > > $ export > LIBRARY_PATH=/home/users/

Re: [Axiom-developer] Ping: file removals

2006-11-06 Thread Waldek Hebisch
> > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > > code repository. > > Eh? Methinks you've missed the whole point of aim of the axiom project. > Tim, first I must question your monopoly on stating Axiom goals. In open source project all members choose goals. If members

Re: [Axiom-developer] Ping: file removals

2006-11-06 Thread Alfredo Portes
On 11/6/06, root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I agree. In general there should not be any pdf files in the source > code repository. Eh? Methinks you've missed the whole point of aim of the axiom project. Sorry, but I felt I have to give my 2 cent on this. Tim, I think everybody on the projec

Re: [Axiom-developer] Ping: file removals

2006-11-06 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
root <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | Documentation in any form is to be desired and it often cannot be | created "from the source". If you cannot reproduce the documentation from the source, then the source is incomplete and must be completed. [...] | Gaby and Waldek, you are both new to