Re: [Axiom-developer] literate programming and Claerbout's Insight

2007-07-28 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [...] | Axiom has the opportunity to be the base of computational mathematics. When it manages to meet the needs of the working computational mathematicians. It cannot do that by building self-made ghetto with an autistic attitute of the workers. I have spoken to many

Re: [Axiom-developer] literate programming, Claerbout's Insight and Doyen

2007-07-28 Thread Alfredo Portes
Tim, It is still the idea of the project ;-). I do not know if you ever read this post by Emil Sit, http://www.emilsit.net/blog/archives/tools-for-repeatable-research/ . He actually mentions you and the Doyen idea for what he calls repeatable research. On 7/29/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTE

Re: [Axiom-developer] literate programming

2007-07-28 Thread Alfredo Portes
Hi Tim, > This paper contains clear arguments for literate programming. > > and appears to have been done in 1995. We seem to be a bit behind > the curve on this idea. I almost give you credit for it, never heard of the term until yo

[Axiom-developer] literate programming, Claerbout's Insight and Doyen

2007-07-28 Thread daly
Now that memory kicks in I recall that one original motivation for the Doyen project was to create particular "snapshots" for a particular piece of research that could always be reproduced. Jose has carefully documented the process of creating a Doyen CD so a paper could be published on the CD al

[Axiom-developer] literate programming and Claerbout's Insight

2007-07-28 Thread daly
>From Buckheit, Jonathan B., Donoho, David L. "WaveLab and Reproducible Research" Jon Claerbout's Insight An Article about computational science in a scientific publication is not the scholarship itself, it is merely advertising

[Axiom-developer] literate programming

2007-07-28 Thread daly
This paper contains clear arguments for literate programming. and appears to have been done in 1995. We seem to be a bit behind the curve on this idea. Tim ___ Axiom-developer mailing list

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axweb, a literate programming tool

2007-07-28 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Could you update http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/PamphletSyntax and add a link to AxWeb there. I was thinking of adding a few things but thought it might be inappropriate as my opinions cannot be taken as strictly objective in this context. Well, as you see, I've also marked some items with

[Axiom-developer] Re: axiom credit list

2007-07-28 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Thank you, Tim. Credit is costless to share and there is always enough blame to go around. If someone you know has contributed to Axiom in some form feel free to add them to the list of credits. No explanation is necessary. There are no rules and no guidelines, just your own private judgement t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axweb, a literate programming tool

2007-07-28 Thread Stephen Wilson
Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxWeb > > > Since I objected to the latex only approach to pamphlets this is my > > counter proposal :) > > Could you update http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/PamphletSyntax and > add a link to AxWeb there. Sure. No p

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axweb, a literate programming tool

2007-07-28 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxWeb Since I objected to the latex only approach to pamphlets this is my counter proposal :) Could you update http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/PamphletSyntax and add a link to AxWeb there. I've tried to be objective on that site, but might have failed. N

[Axiom-developer] axiom credit list

2007-07-28 Thread daly
Ralf, There are no criteria for adding someone's name to the list except that you, I, or anyone else believes the name should be added. The list is meaningless in the sense that, as a set, there is no rule for deciding membership. It isn't an attempt at academic credit. The )credit command and t

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Stephen Wilson
Hi Ralf, I think you have made an excellent observation. Ralf Hemmecke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] > with a clear specification it doesn't matter whether the compiler is > written in Boot, SPAD, LISP, or C or Haskell. The compiler should be > called if needed. Why would the language it is w

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Hello, On 07/27/2007 11:46 PM, C Y wrote: I'll make one more stab at asking my question, using a more concrete illustration this time. Gaby's slides reminded me of the ongoing Lisp vs. Boot situation we have in the Axiom project - there are two camps both firmly committed to Lisp or Boot respec

Re: [Axiom-developer] diff-Naur 20070721.01.tpd.patch

2007-07-28 Thread Ralf Hemmecke
Tim, I would feel happy if 1) you make clear what the guidelines are that somebody get's included into that list (maybe on MathAction?), 2) you (or whoever wants to add someone to that list) could give at least a line on why that person counts as a contributor. (It's enough if this appears

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Stephen Wilson
Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > The substantial difference is that one between a plateform specific > assembly language (such as x86) and a portable high level language > (such as SML or Haskell). I am curious about the goal. Is it to write a new compiler/interpreter/runtime for a

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Bill Page wrote: | Yes. So what we can do is take (for example) CCL with a bunch of | Axiom-specific optimatizations as was done by NAG and just bundle it | with Axiom. We don't need to call it Lisp. It is just becomes the | abstract machine level for Axiom. Over time, moving

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Bill Page
On 7/28/07, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Bill Page wrote: > > | On 28 Jul 2007 07:36:29 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > | > C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | > > | > [...] > | > > | > | If I understand correctly, Aldor does not in fact re

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
On Sat, 28 Jul 2007, Bill Page wrote: | On 28 Jul 2007 07:36:29 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | > | > [...] | > | > | If I understand correctly, Aldor does not in fact require Lisp at all? | > | > Indeed, and that is a Good Thing (TM). | > |

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Bill Page
On 28 Jul 2007 07:36:29 -0500, Gabriel Dos Reis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > [...] > > | If I understand correctly, Aldor does not in fact require Lisp at all? > > Indeed, and that is a Good Thing (TM). > But Aldor does have FOAM which in most respects is still

Re: [Axiom-developer] Project directions

2007-07-28 Thread Gabriel Dos Reis
C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: [...] | If I understand correctly, Aldor does not in fact require Lisp at all? Indeed, and that is a Good Thing (TM). -- Gaby ___ Axiom-developer mailing list Axiom-developer@nongnu.org http://lists.nongnu.org/mailman

[Axiom-developer] Axweb, a literate programming tool

2007-07-28 Thread Stephen Wilson
*, Well, I think the code is ready for a BETA release. Axweb is a pretty decent replacement for noweb and I believe it has a lot of potential. It is written in Common Lisp and can be tightly integrated with Axiom as a consequence. I am going to work with it in the Axisp branch and try to get s