Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Bill Page
On 7/31/07, C Y wrote: > --- Bill Page wrote: > ... > > > > I dont know anything about Intellectual property laws in the US but > > isnt "Axiom" too common a word to qualify as a trademark? > > The fact that NAG DID have it registered as a trademark when it was a > commercial product would seem to

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Bill Page
On 31 Jul 2007 22:24:49 -0400, Stephen Wilson wrote: > Camm Maguire writes: > ... > > 2) The only rationale for a non-commercial use clause that I can see > >is to keep open the possibility of a controlled separate licensing > >to particular entites for commercial use. The intention of NAG

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Stephen Wilson
Camm Maguire <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Greetings! AFAICT: > > 1) You can build axiom atop a stripped down version of GCL under an >LGPL license, removing the conflict. It could still never get into >Debian. > > 2) The only rationale for a non-commercial use clause that I can see >

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Camm Maguire
Greetings! AFAICT: 1) You can build axiom atop a stripped down version of GCL under an LGPL license, removing the conflict. It could still never get into Debian. 2) The only rationale for a non-commercial use clause that I can see is to keep open the possibility of a controlled separat

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Stephen Wilson
"didier deshommes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > If not, I say we forget about Aldor (and maybe even build > > something better). It seems to me that one year from now, we will > > still be talking about this and not much progress will have been > > made. FYI, this is already being seriously pu

[Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread didier deshommes
-- Forwarded message -- From: Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 31 juil. 2007 18:00 Subject: Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC To: didier deshommes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On 7/31/07, didier deshommes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > How much of Axiom is written using A

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Bill Page
On 7/31/07, C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ... > > The problem as I see it is lack of compatibility with GPL. According to > > Stephen this is deliiberate on the part of NAG. Apparently they > > object to the "viral" natue of GPL. > > Erm. That's very

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread C Y
--- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 7/31/07, C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Fair enough if we get into the nitty gritty, but one question here > > - is there anyone who is interested in using Aldor given this > > non-commercial clause?

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Ondrej Certik
> Certainly there are since there are some people using Aldor now and > none of these would qualify as commercial as fas as I know. > > Can you suggest a credible commercial use? Do you know of any > commercial use of Axiom? I dont think this is really the issue. The > problem as I see it is lack o

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Bill Page
On 7/31/07, C Y <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fair enough if we get into the nitty gritty, but one question here - is > there anyone who is interested in using Aldor given this non-commercial > clause? > Certainly there are since there are some people us

Re: [Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread C Y
--- Bill Page <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.aldor.org/AldorPublicLicense2_0.html > > is a modified BSD-style license which contains a "for non-commerical > use only clause" making it incompatible with GPL. This potentially > has an impact on the possibility of using and distributing Ald

[Axiom-developer] Axiom meeting at ISSAC

2007-07-31 Thread Bill Page
http://wiki.axiom-developer.org/AxiomPresentAndFuture took place on Monday July 30 as planned. There was however very little discussion about Axiom. :-( In attendance where Barry Trager, Steven Watt, Emil Volcheck, Gaby Dos Reis, Bill Page plus a few other people from the ISSAC conference that I d