Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Srinath Perera
Eran any possibiltiy to complete functionality (even though it is tiny) for the alpha and do not add new functionality (big or small) in following releases, beta or final. I am getting feeling of what world think (anticipate) about Axis2, and belive me it must be sound ...and if it is rest

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Hi all, Srinath Perera wrote: Eran any possibiltiy to complete functionality (even though it is tiny) for the alpha and do not add new functionality (big or small) in following releases, beta or final. Well, I don't think we will add more functionality. Remember we have plugable databi

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Ajith Ranabahu
Hi all, Yep I'm sure the 'first impression' is very important but frankly I don't think this alpha release is going to be completed in functionality even though I do not expect a major architectural change. I can think of all sorts of minor imporvements / feature additions that needs to be done for

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 00:46 +0900, Eran Chinthaka wrote: > Hi all, > > > Srinath Perera wrote: > > Eran any possibiltiy to complete functionality (even though it is > > tiny) for the alpha and do not add new functionality (big or small) in > > following releases, beta or final. > > > Well, I

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 21:58 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu wrote: > Hi all, > Yep I'm sure the 'first impression' is very important but frankly I > don't think this alpha release is going to be completed in > functionality even though I do not expect a major architectural > change. I can think of all sorts

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Performance AND usability. (default settings, client working w/o explicit repository? etc) thanks, -- dims On 9/23/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Sat, 2005-09-24 at 00:46 +0900, Eran Chinthaka wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > > > Srinath Perera wrote: > > > Eran any possibiltiy

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Ajith Ranabahu
Hi, Well perhaps I was too eccentric in saying  75% (actually it is a rough number I picked without much thought and is not a reflection of the actual amount of funtionality we need to add) but what I feel is that there's room for functionality and improvements. In my side I feel that pumps for W

RE: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Tom Jordahl
Macromedia Server Development From: Ajith Ranabahu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 23, 2005 1:43 PM To: Sanjiva Weerawarana Cc: axis-dev@ws.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release   Hi, Well perhaps I was too eccentric in saying  75

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Steve Loughran
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 21:58 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu wrote: Hi all, Yep I'm sure the 'first impression' is very important but frankly I don't think this alpha release is going to be completed in functionality even though I do not expect a major architectural change. I ca

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Steve Loughran
Tom Jordahl wrote: I would say that any Axis2 1.0 would have to fully support WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0 generation (from Java) and consumption (to Java). I don’t think we are there yet, particularly on the WSDL 2.0 front. I would much rather release early/often with a .92, .93, .95, etc. Th

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Eran Chinthaka
arana Cc: axis-dev@ws.apache.org; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release   Hi, Well perhaps I was too eccentric in saying  75% (actually it is a rough number I picked without much thought and is not a reflection of the actual amount of funtionality we need to add) but w

RE: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 14:46 -0400, Tom Jordahl wrote: > I would say that any Axis2 1.0 would have to fully support WSDL 1.1 > and WSDL 2.0 generation (from Java) and consumption (to Java). I > don’t think we are there yet, particularly on the WSDL 2.0 front. -1 on the WSDL 2.0 front .. there's no

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Sanjiva Weerawarana wrote: On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 14:46 -0400, Tom Jordahl wrote: I would say that any Axis2 1.0 would have to fully support WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0 generation (from Java) and consumption (to Java). I don’t think we are there yet, particularly on the WSDL 2.0 front.

RE: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Tom Jordahl
> Again, can we identify what specific function we want to have? For those > of us working hard to get this completed, its helpful to get an actual > list of features/problems rather than open ended comments saying "not > yet." I thought I was being clear in my feature request. Its wasn't open en

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Eran Chinthaka
Hi all, All the guys in Sri Lanka, yesterday, worked hard till 2.00 a.m. thinking to release alpha on 24th. If you all think that current axis2 is not mature enough to be released as alpha, please please let us know. And we like to know the exact stuff we want to be finished for alpha. My pe

RE: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Sanjiva Weerawarana
On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 17:06 -0400, Tom Jordahl wrote: > > Again, can we identify what specific function we want to have? For > those > > of us working hard to get this completed, its helpful to get an actual > > list of features/problems rather than open ended comments saying "not > > yet." > > I

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-23 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Spec is not final either :( On 9/23/05, Sanjiva Weerawarana <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Fri, 2005-09-23 at 17:06 -0400, Tom Jordahl wrote: > > > Again, can we identify what specific function we want to have? For > > those > > > of us working hard to get this completed, its helpful to get an ac

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-24 Thread Dennis Sosnoski
Steve Loughran wrote: Tom Jordahl wrote: I would say that any Axis2 1.0 would have to fully support WSDL 1.1 and WSDL 2.0 generation (from Java) and consumption (to Java). I don’t think we are there yet, particularly on the WSDL 2.0 front. I would much rather release early/often with a

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-24 Thread Srinath Perera
did anybody use wsdl 2.0 for production? I know people will, but it is not a concern for the users right now. We relase for the real world .. to me holding axis2 out due to wsdl2 is unfair let us implemet the thing when spec is final, and wsdl4j equivent comes out. I see know reason we need to dea

RE: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-25 Thread Tom Jordahl
on: How do you sell me on Axis2? Why am I switching to it (which isn't cheap as the APIs are not compatible)? What benefits do I get? -- Tom Jordahl -Original Message- From: Srinath Perera [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2005 7:01 PM To: axis-dev@ws.apache.or

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-25 Thread Paul Fremantle
Tom While I understand that having a great implementation like Axis2 support WSDL2.0 is going to be important to WSDL2.0, I think its dangerous to tie them together. Here are my reasons: 1) WSDL 2.0 has taken far too long in the W3C for the marketplace. There is a danger it may still drag out a

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-26 Thread Srinath Perera
nce. Also the Axis1 team doesn't seem like they will be adding > > support for WSDL 2.0, so I am hoping that the new version give me that > > too. > > > > Question: How do you sell me on Axis2? Why am I switching to it (which > > isn't cheap as the APIs are n

Re: [Axis2] 1.0-alpha release

2005-09-26 Thread Paul Fremantle
Srinath and folks So here is an idea for WSDL generation (http://blah/service?wsdl). We can reflect on the component and easily find the operations. So we could create a WSDL which gives details of the operations, but the schemas are all simply complextypes that devolve to xsd:any. Of course if