Re: [Ayatana] Unity improvement for vision loss people

2012-01-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
at 16:12, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 23:57, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: The indicators work well monochrome because they were designed from the start to be Monochrome, and include only simple shapes and outlines. Regular icons

Re: [Ayatana] Unity improvement for vision loss people

2012-01-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 08:12, Jeremy Bicha jbi...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 11 January 2012 18:27, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: symbolic icons, not desaturated corporate branding icons. It is a very bad idea for Canonical to tweak the Firefox logo, and Mozilla

Re: [Ayatana] Unity improvement for vision loss people

2012-01-09 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hi Ian ;) On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 01:40, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: Desaturating inactive applications in the launcher is a bad idea. It removes the ability to recognize different icons based on color. That would leave only shape, which isn't enough on it's own, particularly if

Re: [Ayatana] Unity improvement for vision loss people

2012-01-09 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 23:57, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: The indicators work well monochrome because they were designed from the start to be Monochrome, and include only simple shapes and outlines. Regular icons do not work this way. Perhaps an option to desaturate the launcher

Re: [Ayatana] Unity improvement for vision loss people

2012-01-08 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
like i often tell friends and others: imo, a11y and usability are one and the same thing, when we're talking about basic functionality. That is why design should be based on a solid semantic foundation: this way, porting whatever event or state notification to the human sense realms (ayatana)

Re: [Ayatana] Will Modal-Dialog windows fix this problem with Unity?

2011-12-15 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 13:35, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 10/12/11 18:07: On Sat, Dec 10, 2011 at 18:40, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com ... How can I minimize a window when a modal-dialog

Re: [Ayatana] Global Menu mockups for Unity

2011-12-07 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Dec 7, 2011 at 19:00, Matt Richardson m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Couldn't you solve the draggable area problem by allowing users to move the window by dragging from anywhere on the title bar, including a menu item. at some point it was mentioned that all grey areas in an

Re: [Ayatana] Some thoughts about the home lens

2011-12-04 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 13:07, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: I think that we should use the space for something more informative than the 8 icons... http://ubuntuone.com/5nAsW7hEmAs6jvyiq8Z6on like a widget space, rght? this could be easily achieved by using the Launcher API in

Re: [Ayatana] Some thoughts about the home lens

2011-12-04 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 16:06, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: Am 04.12.2011 15:59, schrieb frederik.nn...@gmail.com: On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 15:17, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: Am 04.12.2011 13:13, schrieb frederik.nn...@gmail.com: On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 13:07

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 12:39, SorinN nemes.so...@gmail.com wrote: FInally I have to say the result is a soup with no clear explanations for some resulting solutions - sorry to say that but this is it. be more optimistic: our biogenetical evolution began in a soup, and see us now!

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
cgerm...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:52 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: how do you define Unix-like in 2011? In a nutshell Keep it Simple, Stupid. to expand. 1. Small

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-29 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
how do you define Unix-like in 2011? On 2011-11-29, Chad M. Germann cgerm...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 23:35 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:58, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: it should be large enough to be easily targeted

Re: [Ayatana] unity at the bottom

2011-11-29 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 19:01, Sunil Singh Rana sunil.r...@gmail.comwrote: I think its a great idea. Design can be modified so that it remain consistent if some user chooses it to be on bottom. I don't really see much philosophy behind the current design; for example: I don't know why the top

Re: [Ayatana] drag to launcher - raise or pop-out?

2011-11-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:45, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: No, I prefer the current behavior. There may be ways to expand upon it, but it's sufficient for now. i think the current behaviour is insufficient for the user, but for the developer it is a good place to start. open was

Re: [Ayatana] drag to launcher - raise or pop-out?

2011-11-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:48, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: If I'm dragging an MP3 file (or set of MP3 files) into, e.g. Totem, what exactly can I do with them? Regardless of where I drop them on the window, it will play them, which only differs from Open in labeling. Why should

Re: [Ayatana] Need ability to close windows from within Spread Mode (super+W)

2011-11-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 21:58, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: I would do it with a small X icon in the upper left (Or, simply allow the use the use the window controls from the spread view). yes, that was planned at some point, sabdfl suggested a close button himself, i don't know

[Ayatana] drag to launcher - raise or pop-out?

2011-11-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
A Unity novice complained to me that since he started using Unity he can't drag and drop properly anymore. Drag and Drop is broken for him, so he stated. This bar doesn't allow dragging my songs into the player anymore, i want the old bar back The reason is simple: The Window List in the old

Re: [Ayatana] drag to launcher - raise or pop-out?

2011-11-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 22:20, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: For me it's working, just drag it on the icon of banshee the song starts, many other programs work also, but not all :(( ah thanks.. that's probably because i removed banshee - it was so very disturbing.

Re: [Ayatana] drag to launcher - raise or pop-out?

2011-11-27 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 22:20, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: For me it's working, just drag it on the icon of banshee the song starts, many other programs work also, but not all :(( so does holding the drag over Banshee's Launcher icon raise the Banshee window?

Re: [Ayatana] Integrate the top bar with the launcher.

2011-11-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 17:25, Carl Ansell afccarl1...@hotmail.com wrote: That would require a new theme, so that the top bar, indicator menus and window borders all look the same. On Tue 22 Nov 2011 11:33:11 GMT, Enrico Carafa wrote: In my opinion the top bar is too isolated from the

Re: [Ayatana] List windows on hover

2011-11-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 22:36, Callum Saunders dancem...@gmail.com wrote: The windows previews should only show if the app has multiple windows though, otherwise it would be unnecessary. I'd love to see a special pie menu unfold, when a mouse drag is held above a launcher button, dwelling. I

Re: [Ayatana] Shut Down in Dash and with Key-Combination

2011-11-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 21:24, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: Why do we need to optimize the ability to shutdown anyway? As a rule, you'll only do it once per session, and it's not like it's hard to access as it is now. There are many things that are not done often, and the goal is

Re: [Ayatana] Shut Down in Dash and with Key-Combination

2011-11-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 11:38, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: Den 16. nov. 2011 11:13, skrev frederik.nn...@gmail.com: positioning a rarely used element correctly for once is a key solution, which will lead the way for the positioning of other such rarely used

Re: [Ayatana] Shut Down in Dash and with Key-Combination

2011-11-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 18:07, Michael J Daniel michael.j.dan...@comcast.net wrote: ** On 11/16/2011 02:13 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 21:24, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: Why do we need to optimize the ability to shutdown anyway? As a rule

Re: [Ayatana] Applications in unity

2011-11-14 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Nov 14, 2011 at 21:45, balint...@gmail.com balint...@gmail.comwrote: Dear Ayatana team, Don't get me wrong, but in the current version of Ubuntu it is not clear, what applications are. excellent point. We should define what exactly an application from the User's point of view is

Re: [Ayatana] Applications in unity

2011-11-14 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Nov 15, 2011 at 00:11, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: branding makes it easier to identify the product. the program is best identified by a message, and a clear message is best delivered through a semantically powerful and unabiguous means, such as a symbol

Re: [Ayatana] Should we move closer to gnome again?

2011-11-13 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 12:19, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: I really like unity and dislike GnomeShell for different reasons. But Gnome plans some really cool stuff such as the recent mockups for various apps. http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2011/11/10/gnome-design-update/ and

Re: [Ayatana] Default Dash screen mock up

2011-11-13 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 20:04, balint...@gmail.com balint...@gmail.comwrote: I like your ideas, however i think launcher is already the place for pinning apps. correct. It's only that the launcher has its disadvantages, and it's clear that one of them is definitely, that the launcher is but a

Re: [Ayatana] Default Dash screen mock up

2011-11-13 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 23:35, Cyrille Ngassam Nkwenga cyri...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Guy, I want to share with you my thoughts on the default Dash everybody seems to have issue with the actual one. But before let me explain the problem I want to solve with this design: Currently , in Unity

Re: [Ayatana] Should we move closer to gnome again?

2011-11-13 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Nov 13, 2011 at 21:04, supernova supernova...@gmail.com wrote: In my opinion, as a 14 years old Linux user, GS now has more coherence than Unity. Infact objects, icons are grouped in places of the screen where you can find same aim or use. Moreover, Unity is thought to be used by

Re: [Ayatana] Dash Home Mockup

2011-11-12 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
how do you want the buttons to highlight? will the text be within the highlighted rectangle, or will it be outside, as it currently is? On Sat, Nov 12, 2011 at 02:43, Evan Lin hairymonkey.e...@gmail.com wrote: Here is my mock up of what I think home dash should look like. -- Evan Lin

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Lens Mockup.

2011-11-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 05:35, Evan Lin hairymonkey.e...@gmail.com wrote: I don't like how the lens are looking for 11.10 in unity so I made come mock ups. i'm lovin mockup n#2, the lenses integrated into the search bar beautifully, the message behind them being above the text field is that

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Lens Mockup.

2011-11-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 13:48, Omar B. estela...@hotmail.com wrote: one thing that troubles me about lenses at the moment, is that the entered text doesn't travel along when i move between lenses. The optimum would be, if there were no lenses at all and the computer could read my mind

Re: [Ayatana] Unity Lens Mockup.

2011-11-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/889098 there you go ;) On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 13:52, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Nov 11, 2011 at 13:48, Omar B. estela...@hotmail.com wrote: one thing that troubles me about lenses at the moment

Re: [Ayatana] What should Unity look like on Smartphones and Tablets?

2011-11-09 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
errrm.. another laudation to the designer.. On Mon, Nov 7, 2011 at 22:37, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: At UDS-P, Mark announced his plans to have Ubuntu on Tablets, phones, and TVs by 14.04 LTS. You can start too early! when Unity's predecessor, the UNR interface, first appeared,

Re: [Ayatana] Easy to use menus for touch and non touch devices

2011-11-03 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 16:01, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On 11/03/2011 02:01 PM, Matt Richardson wrote: It strikes me that the idea behind hiding the menus has been that for people with touch devices these menus are not useful and future applications should avoid the use of menus

Re: [Ayatana] semi-transparent indicator menus

2011-10-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:17, Matt Richardson m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I love this idea so I did some mockups: Desktop http://ubuntuone.com/6Oysw1NarMc480p07l7wIm Dash http://ubuntuone.com/6NLh3oKNIJ0ALbfyRoogv5 Window Theme http://ubuntuone.com/05Hl8aeQbAMt5avbm3uMLm

Re: [Ayatana] semi-transparent indicator menus

2011-10-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 11:04, Matt Richardson m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: Trouble is that alpha and blur on window title bars could become very heavy when working with multiple non-maximised windows. could be, might be, i don't know that. This thread was meant to be about

Re: [Ayatana] semi-transparent indicator menus

2011-10-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Oct 30, 2011 at 10:17, Matt Richardson m.richardson.1...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: I love this idea so I did some mockups: Desktop http://ubuntuone.com/6Oysw1NarMc480p07l7wIm Dash http://ubuntuone.com/6NLh3oKNIJ0ALbfyRoogv5 Window Theme http://ubuntuone.com/05Hl8aeQbAMt5avbm3uMLm

Re: [Ayatana] semi-transparent indicator menus

2011-10-30 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 23:27, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Which do you think is more important: for indicator menus to have the same style as other pull-down menus, or the same style as the Dash? a homogenous surface called

[Ayatana] semi-transparent indicator menus

2011-10-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Unity introduces a new look, but Indicators Menus, which were there before the Dash, are not yet up to date in that respect. Obviously, there is no alpha for indicator menus, no way to set transparency in CCSM for them. I'd like to have control over that as a power user, power user being the

Re: [Ayatana] Fwd: Re: semi-transparent indicator menus

2011-10-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Original Message Subject: Re: [Ayatana] semi-transparent indicator menus Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 12:46:34 +0100 From: Carl Ansell afccarl1...@hotmail.com afccarl1...@hotmail.com To: frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.comfrederik.nn...@gmail.com When

Re: [Ayatana] User-Indicator/Me-Menu shows icon AND user-name (adds clutter to 11.10)

2011-10-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
I took the liberty to open a mockups page for what was once known as the me menu. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/MeMenu%20Mockups my main idea is that the indicator area in the top right corner is quite unsorted, i rearranged the indicators a bit and removed launchers from the mockup, since it's

Re: [Ayatana] simple NLP in dash

2011-10-18 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Oct 17, 2011 at 16:13, Christian Rupp christ...@r-k-r.de wrote: Am 17.10.2011 15:09, schrieb frederik.nn...@gmail.com: i'd like to type (and one day speak) natural language to achieve simple things, such as adding an appointment to my calendar or showing all pictures i copied

[Ayatana] simple NLP in dash

2011-10-17 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
i'd like to type (and one day speak) natural language to achieve simple things, such as adding an appointment to my calendar or showing all pictures i copied, viewed, created or edited last tuesday.. for this to be possible, the dash would have to start making a difference between precise

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu = Human-Centered OS?

2011-09-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 18:25, Henrik Peytz henrik.pe...@gmail.com wrote: Assuming that people would want to automatically be socially connected to the Ubuntu community on boot could be a point of discontent I could imagine, just saying. exactly. Why not communicate with my already existing

Re: [Ayatana] Ubuntu = Human-Centered OS?

2011-09-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi there, On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 16:58, Randall Ross rand...@executiv.es wrote: Here is the start of a new spec: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/**CommunityLenshttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityLens We need to begin to use computer mediation to re-connect real people who really matter to us. I

[Ayatana] Ubuntu = Human-Centered OS?

2011-09-19 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
The founding values of Ubuntu stand until today, foremostly represented in the product's name: Ubuntu translates roughly to the belief in a universal bond of sharing that connects all humanity or alternatively to humanity towards others. ¹ So the inevitable truth about Ubuntu is that it is meant

Re: [Ayatana] Thoughts about indicators when the dash is displayed.

2011-08-29 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Aug 28, 2011 at 06:50, Jo-Erlend Schinstad joerlend.schins...@gmail.com wrote: When the dash is displayed, the panel is semi transparent and the indicators are still visible. It looks great, but I think there is room for improvement. +1 I think the passive indicators should be

Re: [Ayatana] indicators vs launchers

2011-07-09 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 16:53, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 16/06/11 11:54: in Unity, shouldn't the Messaging menu indicator appear only once a messaging application is up and running? i have

Re: [Ayatana] Unity and Gtk Application menus

2011-06-29 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 18:41, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote: Gnome Shell makes use of a single application menu that is always present in the top bar. It gets its contents via GtkApplication. In the current stable version nothing really uses it, but for GNOME 3.2 that will

Re: [Ayatana] [Unity+Zeitgeist] - Grouping multiple files opened together in the dash

2011-06-24 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 21:42, Brett Cornwall brettcornw...@gmail.comwrote: Hi, I wanted to see if it would be appropriate to file a bug before actually doing so since it's sort of a feature request. I opened a folder of about 200 music tracks, selected them all and opened them with totem to

Re: [Ayatana] Search in Nautilus needs a minor improvement

2011-06-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 00:30, Jarlath Reidy jarlathre...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Frederik, Ayatana doesn't have this problem, we are equipped with semantic search in the Dash, that solves it for us. This only finds files I have already used - so it is not really a search of any part of the

Re: [Ayatana] indicators vs launchers

2011-06-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 20:13, Roland Taylor rolandi...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/16/2011 06:54 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: in Unity, shouldn't the Messaging menu indicator appear only once a messaging application is up and running? i have neither a mail app nor an instant messaging

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:08, Stefanos A. stapos...@gmail.com wrote: Matthew, I love your idea. With little twist: loving the idea, too. i wouldn't make it that humble tho, proper fields, perhaps the size of browser tabs, would make sense to me for each menu ( View, Go, Edit ...) -

Re: [Ayatana] Search in Nautilus needs a minor improvement

2011-06-17 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Jariath, On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 01:26, Jarlath Reidy jarlathre...@gmail.com wrote: To quote myself on the forums here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1783813 I want to search for a file and I don't know which of my hard disks it is on. So in Nautilus, I choose the 'Computer'

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:10, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On 06/17/2011 11:14 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: But obviously our interaction hardware is aiming at immediacy, correspondence, rather than symbolic crypticism or text-driven menu-isms. I can only guess you must

Re: [Ayatana] Global menu in Oneiric Ocelot (11.10)

2011-06-17 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:43, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 17, 2011 at 12:10, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: On 06/17/2011 11:14 AM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: But obviously our interaction hardware is aiming at immediacy

[Ayatana] indicators vs launchers

2011-06-16 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
in Unity, shouldn't the Messaging menu indicator appear only once a messaging application is up and running? i have neither a mail app nor an instant messaging app running at the moment, still the envelope appears in the panel. While it improves discoverability for the launchers in the menu, it

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-10 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 18:47, GonzO go...@worlord.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 2:09 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote: Too funny, as it is your kind of use that robs the word of meaning. Don't look now, but word usage and meanings change over time. they change intuitively..

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-10 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 00:57, Ed Lin edlin...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 1:16 PM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: I don't understand why you think a single OS for multiple form factors counts as getting something right. The success of iOS, Mac OS X, and

Re: [Ayatana] Windows 8 and OS X Lion observations

2011-06-06 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Ed, On Mon, Jun 6, 2011 at 23:46, Ed Lin edlin...@gmail.com wrote: It's always interesting to see with what solutions others come up to exactly the same problems. In the last days both Microsoft and Apple let us cast a closer look at their next OS versions. If you missed them:

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher and Panel Overlap

2011-04-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 15:34, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: What happens if you have a narrow window (GIMP, Empathy) stuck behind the icons on the right? I think that's why Wingpanel's behavior was changed. i've been thinking about that point... i find it ridiculous. the DE should

Re: [Ayatana] Launcher and Panel Overlap

2011-04-22 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 21:06, Ian Santopietro isan...@gmail.com wrote: Two points: 1. Super+E still exists in the Workspace switcher in Unity, or Super+S. 2. Zooming out to move a window decreases productivity. For people that know about it, they have to wait for the desktop to zoom out

Re: [Ayatana] The top right thing

2011-04-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Apr 21, 2011 at 02:01, Daniel Silva raditz...@yahoo.com wrote: I'd call it the power button. correct, since that's what this button is called in the physical world. the button is a button, the menu behind it may carry an entirely different name, but the button is what it is ;)

Re: [Ayatana] Fitts Law

2011-04-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 20:35, Toby Smithe tsmi...@ubuntu.com wrote: This just seems to be, in the most part, a vacuum outlet for community discontent, rather than a place for constructive discussion. every public mailing list behaves like that, when under heavy load. some break, some

Re: [Ayatana] Let's have the launcher phagocytize the new system tray

2011-04-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 19:32, Peterson Silva peterson@gmail.comwrote: Well, this inspired me. Do we really need the system tray when similar things can be achieved through the launcher now? what system tray are you referring to? perhaps re-read this excellent article by mpt to revive

Re: [Ayatana] Shadows around active window versus window tiling

2011-04-19 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 01:21, Ryan Prior ryanpr...@gmail.com wrote: Another tiny detail that could improve the illusion is to remove the window corner rounding for the seam between the two tiled windows, making them look more like one unit.

Re: [Ayatana] New Unity lens - Contact lens

2011-04-19 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Thibaut, On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 14:07, Thibaut Brandscheid randal...@web.de wrote: Thanks for your mockup (and clever name!) -- I'll make sure we discuss it during the UDS Lens session. This would be s great :) If you want you can add the mock-up to the wiki - just do with it

Re: [Ayatana] Mockup for ApplicationDash

2011-04-13 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 10:34, Marco Rofei marco.ro...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everybody, in ubuntu's italian community we are discussing about Unity and it's usability. From those talking came out two interesting mock-up. One is here

Re: [Ayatana] why global menubar/application menu isn't such a great idea

2011-04-07 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi mpt, On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 10:45, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kévin PEIGNOT wrote on 05/04/11 14:04: ... I still don't see why using a global menu on non-maximised windows. Even for consistency it's useless : if the

Re: [Ayatana] New style of Minimize button for Natty

2011-04-03 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sun, Apr 3, 2011 at 15:29, nick rundy nru...@hotmail.com wrote: I always thought of the minimize button icon as an underscore, minus, or dash. That is, representing the absence/omission of the window. Not that it signals the window is being moved to the bottom panel. absense of the

Re: [Ayatana] Simplifying access to the places

2011-03-31 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 09:38, Arian van Gend aria...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Jono, Yes, it has been discussed on the mailing list already. People really like the idea. :) Actually, the person who made that mockup (David I believe) made several. I personally much prefer this one:

Re: [Ayatana] Side-by-side placement of Messaging menu and Me menu

2011-03-23 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Adnan, On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 13:08, M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@linux.org.bdwrote: It is just a little suggestion... I think it would be better if the 'messaging menu' (the envelop icon) and the 'me menu' (the speech-bubble icon with user name) are placed side-by-side. thank you!

Re: [Ayatana] We need a short-term solution for mail applications and the messaging menu

2011-03-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hello Gnomeuser.. if that's your name.. On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 14:30, gnomeu...@gmail.com gnomeu...@gmail.comwrote: For reference, currently Vala in Natty is broken so sadly no testing with the latest stack. see: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gwibber/+bug/739368 thanks for

Re: [Ayatana] Dash should be in full screen by default in desktop

2011-03-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 13:27, Bilal Akhtar bilalakh...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 03/17/2011 12:54 PM, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Mar 17, 2011 at 05:44, Muhammad Nabil ottoman.k...@yahoo.com wrote: Dash in full screen looks better. Thanks. +1 keeping the dash small would

Re: [Ayatana] New idea of usability for Unity

2011-03-20 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
hi fred ;) On Sun, Mar 20, 2011 at 16:11, Fred n...@lognet.com.br wrote: The Unit has been points of divergence among the users. I developed some ideas seeking to improve usability. I hope it will be useful for developers. Mockup in this video:

Re: [Ayatana] We need a short-term solution for mail applications and the messaging menu

2011-03-19 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hello mpt :D On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 18:05, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 17/03/11 10:16: On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 14:27, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com ... The subject is already

Re: [Ayatana] Activities/Downloads Unity Place

2011-03-19 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 09:06, Owais Lone he...@owaislone.org wrote: *Downloads* I don't know if something similar is already planned or not but I would love to see a Downloads Place to which all apps could push individual download status. Such a place can provide a nice and quick way to

Re: [Ayatana] Activities/Downloads Unity Place

2011-03-19 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 19, 2011 at 12:54, Kévin PEIGNOT winniemie...@gmail.com wrote: It would appear only when a download (or why not a file transfer too) is occuring, else it is hidden. yes, downloads, filetransfers (rx/tx), cloud syncs (up/down), all of those should be indicated right on the object

Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'

2011-03-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 16:56, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 March 2011 15:43, Lee Hyde anub...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/03/11 14:41, Mark Curtis wrote: Someone else suggested putting it in the Me Menu This would solve both problems of not being close to Shut Down nor

Re: [Ayatana] 'Control Center' should be in 'Launcher' not in 'Session Menu'

2011-03-11 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Mar 11, 2011 at 17:50, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote: The control center is just a categorized set of application shortcuts, exactly what the Dash is optimized to handle. and the indicator menu item would be but a shortcut to that dash view, if it gets implemented as you

Re: [Ayatana] A better chat experience

2011-03-09 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
yeah, we considered Recent Conversations aka Recent Contact in some of the mockups from the MeMessaging Menu brainstorming threads.. A very good example here might be Skype, which also has Recent Conversations. According to the cosmic Law of Correspondence, when i see and subsequently click

Re: [Ayatana] config files and apps are diferent.

2011-03-08 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 13:13, dani daniplana...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, now in unity configuration files are merged with apps and it's dificult for user differentiate them. i proposed to merge configuration files in control center, like kde, macos or windows. watch the mockups for better

Re: [Ayatana] config files and apps are diferent.

2011-03-08 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 14:05, M. Adnan Quaium adnan.qua...@linux.org.bdwrote: +1 Liked the idea. The interface will be easier for an user. and semantically, a configuration page is not an application. it is a configuration page for applications. So Daniel is quite right, these don't belong

Re: [Ayatana] No one will ever use the upper-left Ubuntu button

2011-03-07 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hello Mark, On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 08:16, Mark Shuttleworth mark.shuttlewo...@canonical.com wrote: The dash / launcher can be revealed with a 4-drag from left to right on touch devices. Will this ever be possible on synaptics clickpads and touchpads, too?

[Ayatana] desktop widget for appointments

2011-03-03 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
does anyone know of a desktop widget for appointments? i'd like to see the appointments from my evolution calendar on the desktop, most importantly the ones for TODAY. how would i achieve that in ubuntu? ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana

[Ayatana] Category Preferences // Indicator Menus

2011-03-02 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:36, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: The items in the status menus are shortcuts. Sometimes someone will go into the clock menu to change something about the time, or the sound menu to change something about the sound, etc, before realizing that the menu

Re: [Ayatana] Redundancy : Preference's Menu and Indicator's options

2011-02-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 13:57, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote on 15/02/11 13:39: ... On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:36, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com ... The items in the status menus

Re: [Ayatana] Redundancy : Preference's Menu and Indicator's options

2011-02-28 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
about the attachment.. i'd already like to correct the syntax: * chat settings * broadcast settings * about me CONTINUE On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 22:35, frederik.nn...@gmail.com frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 13:57, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2011-02-23 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hi Mitja On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 20:16, Mitja Pagon mitja.pa...@inueni.com wrote: Still I fail to see what actual problem(s) windicators are meant solve or in what way are they supposed to better UX. To me it seem like it's a solution in of search of a problem to solve. The initial note

[Ayatana] semantic hide

2011-02-21 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
how about this: when i did a quick unity --replace earlier today, i realized that certain launchers tucked them selves away later than all the others... while that was probably a bug.. how about semantic aka selective hiding? i would find it extremely cool to see those apps which are running

Re: [Ayatana] Menu bar integrated in title bar in Unity

2011-02-18 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 13:25, Luke Benstead kaz...@gmail.com wrote: Yeah, I don't think it's that much of a problem. Fitt's law keeps being quoted as an excuse to do stuff over and above other factors. That's one way of seeing it. [...] more sensible (IMO) to consistently display the

Re: [Ayatana] hiding unmounted bookmarks

2011-02-18 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 15:53, Ronald McCollam ronald.mccol...@canonical.com wrote: On Sun, 2011-02-13 at 15:20 +0100, frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote: the reason for me to reconsider this in the first place, is that somebody would be unlikely to bookmark a location, knowing that it would

Re: [Ayatana] Menu bar integrated in title bar in Unity

2011-02-18 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 18:39, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote: On Fri, 18 Feb 2011, Luke Benstead wrote: On 18 February 2011 13:23, Andrew Laignel a.laig...@sportsweb.biz wrote: https://wiki.mozilla.org/File:Firefox-4-Mockup-i06-%28Win7%29-%28Aero%29-%28TabsTop%29.png*cough*

Re: [Ayatana] hiding unmounted bookmarks

2011-02-18 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 20:46, Jeremy Nickurak jer...@nickurak.ca wrote: On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:57, Mario Vukelic mario.vuke...@dantian.orgwrote: I'm exactly opposite, and for me the current behavior is perfect. For example, I have my mp3s on the internal HD, but my flac collection is on

Re: [Ayatana] Redundancy : Preference's Menu and Indicator's options

2011-02-15 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
Hello MPT, On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 11:36, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.comwrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 cyrildz wrote on 04/02/11 17:24: ... in the Preferences' Menu (System-- Preferences) we have: -Instant Messaging and VoIP - Microbloging -Network

Re: [Ayatana] Regarding the Sound Menu Spec's closing of inactive audio applications

2011-02-15 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
This here was and is imo be the most clear and straightforward contribution to the problem this thread is trying to address: On Tue, Feb 8, 2011 at 14:36, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: A window's close button should close the window. Anything else the program does should aim

[Ayatana] hiding unmounted bookmarks

2011-02-13 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
when a bookmarked Place is not physically mounted, it is hidden. The alternative to this would be to show it, but with a way of indicating that it is not (yet) mounted. the reason for me to reconsider this in the first place, is that somebody would be unlikely to bookmark a location, knowing that

Re: [Ayatana] workspace navigation

2011-02-07 Thread frederik.nn...@gmail.com
nice thread! On Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 15:42, Mohamed Ikbel Boulabiar boulab...@gmail.comwrote: I forget to mention a cool software for zui interfaces Raskin, some videos are here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7pbbSVerOU nice implementation! An upgrade to simply zooming in and out would be

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