Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores -Genealogy Silvia from Madeira Island

2013-04-23 Thread eric edgar
- - * * - * * - *Ano:* - - *Data:* 1891 - *Paróquia / Conservatória:* Arco da Calheta - *MARIDO:* João da Silva do Pomar Júnior - *Pai:* - *Mãe:* - *MULHER:* Dionísia de Jesus - *Pai:* - *Mãe:* - *Livro:* 4285 - *Folha:* 5 v.º - *Ano:* -

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores -Genealogy Silvia from Madeira Island

2013-04-23 Thread eric edgar
Will, Here's the baptism record for Agostinho giving the father's name - *Data:* 02-11-1902 - *Paróquia / Conservatória:* Arco da Calheta - *FILHO:* Agostinho - *Pai:* João da Silva - *Mãe:* Dionísia de Jesus - *Livro:* 7450 - *Folha:* 57 v.º http://www.arquivo-madeira.or

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
David P, I think I read somewhere that the first settlement on Sao Miguel was Povoacao (means population). And I think it was in the 1400s, but I'm not entirely sure I'm remembering that right. Someone with more history knowledge will chime in, I'm sure. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Resear

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores -Genealogy Silvia from Madeira Island

2013-04-23 Thread eric edgar
Here you go Will. This is their passport leaving Madeira They are from Arco de Calheta, Madeira PetitionerDionísia de JesusSpouseCompanionKinshipParish/CountryArco da Calheta-RAMDestinationNova Iorque-USAYear1912MonthMarBox165Process Nº141Passport Nº366Date of Baptism (Petitioner)Age (Petitioner)

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Azores -Genealogy Silvia from Madeira Island

2013-04-23 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hello Will.You say that your wife's ancertor Dionesia (Rose) de Jesus Sivia was born in 1872 in Cape Verde, Madeira, Azores, Portugal.As a way of trying to help you Cape Verde, Madeira and Azores are three distinct groups of islands many miles apart but all in the Atlantic Ocean.I would guess th

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread David Perry
My grandfather is a Medeiros from Faial da Terra, Sao Miguel. There are many Medeiros folks there and I can't recall the source but I read many years ago that the original Medeiros immigrants to the Azores first settled at the eastern end of Sao Miguel. Good luck, David Perry On Tuesday, Apr

[AZORES-Genealogy] Azores -Genealogy Silvia from Madeira Island

2013-04-23 Thread Will Clinton
Hi, I am new to the group and I am working on my wife's side of our family tree. The ancestor I am working on currently is Dionesia (Rose) Jesus Silvia--born 1872 in Cape Verde-Madeira (Azores) Portugal. Arrived in Boston March 29, 1910. She had 4 boys Manuel, Agostinho (August) my wife's gr

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] BADILHO

2013-04-23 Thread pico
I should have added that there is one João Rodrigues de Badilho who could be the person who brought this name to Terceira. I estimate he was born about 1475. He married into one of the three Cardoso branches of Terceira. Maybe I will find an additional piece of information from Fenix Angrence as to

[AZORES-Genealogy] BADILHO

2013-04-23 Thread pico
I have an ancestor from Porto Judeu named de BADILHO in the late 1600s.It just occurred to me that this name is too similar to another one de BOBADILHO to be overlooked.I wonder if anyone has successfully linked them.One could speculate that the original for Badilho is the longer form Bobadilho.The

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread pico
Great point, Gayle.Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: Gayle Machado Date: Tue, April 23, 2013 4:01 pm To: "azores@

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread Gayle Machado
Doug, Betty and others, Excuse me for dropping into the middle of a conversion, but there is both a blessing and a danger in generalizing. Just to offer a cautionary counterexample to one of the points listed this previous message: my grandmother was a Medeiros from Pico whose family settled in

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread pico
Hi Betty,Nice to hear from you. It's been a very long time since you told me about your project to document the Portuguese of Lowell.If you didn't already do it, you can add my great-great-grandfather, Manuel Joaquim Leal who died in Lowell after an operation in 1886. He is buried in the cemetery i

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread pico
But Hermano, where's the fun if we don't ruffle some feathers?!It's the spice of life.:-)Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island From: "Hermano

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread pico
Nell,I must not have been clear enough.I got tested with Family Finder as well as mt-DNA representing my mother's maternal line.I never got the Y-DNA test because my father did it and there is no reason I can see to duplicate that.What I meant to say is that I have never had one of my siblings get

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread Hermano C. Pires
Hi I just have to pipe in here and add my two cents worthIn Saudades da Terra it states that with some of the first settlers in the Azores, the Medeiros clan settled in the area of Alagoa (Lagoa), S. Miguel.There is a multitude of Medeiros in S. Miguel since that time.I hope this doesn' ruffle a

[AZORES-Genealogy] MEDEIROS from unknown Island

2013-04-23 Thread Betty
Hi Doug, For several years, as I have time, I try to help my husband's cousin with his MEDEIROS / MIRANDA family-tree.(actually his father's cousin)He is more interested in finding descendants of .. Philip and Mary (MIRANDA) MEDEIROS, who reportedly had 8 children. The 1900 US cens

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread Nelly
Doug, Thank you. Often times we are disappointed because our expectaions aren't met. I could see myself heading that way with these tests. I'm not sure they can tell me what I want to know. I need to do more research. I'm curious to know why you have not had it done. Nell

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Ellen Ade said: <> * Determine if 2 people are related * Determine if 2 people descend from the same ancestor * Prove or disprove theories regarding your family history * Break through those "brick walls" * Validate your existing research If you don't have a specific goal in mind, you may want to

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge marriage records

2013-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Hi Ellen A, You go to the CCA site at: http://goo.gl/f3S08 Point at the council of Ponta Delgada on Sao Miguel island (the finger tip must be right on the white button). Left click once. When the next screen appears, pick your freguesia. Mosteiros is not yet uploaded. If your freguesia was uplo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge marriage records

2013-04-23 Thread elle
Hello All, I have not used this site in a long time - but have finally found a little time to do some research. Does anyone know how to use the CCA site? My grandfather was Francisco da Silva, born 1881 in Mosteiros, San Miguel, Ponta Delgado. He was the son of Henrique da Silva (1855) and An

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed

2013-04-23 Thread Pam Santos
He wasn't married, i don't think any of those are him. On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 9:07 AM, "E" Sharp wrote: > Pam, > > These are the closest I found. > 6th Avenue Joseph S.Silva no dated buried w/Mary J. 1871-1913 > 7th Avenue Joseph Silva 1871-1938 buried with Adelaide, Antone G. Joseph > G, Domi

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread pico
Nell,Yes, always test the person from the oldest generation.But if you and your siblings were all who are still alive, then any of your generation are going to be relatively the same. Of course, you are not the exact same as your siblings. One of you might have inherited different DNA from your par

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Vacation

2013-04-23 Thread George Pacheco
He will be there sorry my mistake :) On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 3:55 PM, PatGirard wrote: > > > George, I hope he'll be on the dock and not at the airport because we're > arriving on a cruise ship! :) > >> -- > For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail > (vacation) mode, lo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Nell, Yes, if you have access to your parents' siblings that is the better choice. Since I don't know your goal, I'd advise you to do a Family Finder on the 89 year old now with this sale. You can order mtDNA on her later. If you have the money, you could do the Family Finder on the 70 year old

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread Nelly
I'm interested in doing both lines. Both of my parents are deceased. Do I understand correctly that the testee should be the oldest person you can find? For example, on my mother's side I could do her sister who is 89 yrs. old and on my father's side I could do my brother who is 70 yrs. old? T

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed

2013-04-23 Thread "E" Sharp
Pam, These are the closest I found. 6th Avenue Joseph S.Silva no dated buried w/Mary J. 1871-1913 7th Avenue Joseph Silva 1871-1938 buried with Adelaide, Antone G. Joseph G, Domingo, Jesse G. A.L.S. Avenue Joseph M. Silva1873-1942 buried with Albert M. Evelyn, Anna J. Guilherminia St. Cecelia Jose

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread Cheri Mello
Nell, Depends on your goal. If you want to focus on one line only and have access to a male relative from that line, then you would want a Y-DNA test. If you want to focus on your mother's mother's mother's line (all women - that one line only), you'd want an mtDNA test (which yields more anthro

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread pico
Nell,You might find this helpful in deciding which test to do:http://www.dholmes.com/dna.html Doug da Rocha HolmesSacramento, CaliforniaPico & Terceira Genealogist916-550-1618www.dholmes.com Original Message Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursd

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Family Tree DNA sale extended to Thursday, April 25, 11:59 pm CDT

2013-04-23 Thread Nelly
I have never heard of DNA testing for the purpose of tracing a family line but it has my curiousity pecked. If I decide to have it done, which test should I have done first? Nell On Monday, April 22, 2013 9:16:01 PM UTC-4, Cheri Mello wrote: > (Cross posted to the following lists: Azores, Made

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Jorge marriage records

2013-04-23 Thread Gerri Martin
Thank you. Yes I checked all of them. I didn't know Marshall would be Machado but did not see any Jose Nunes or Maria Morais. -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at http://groups.google.com/g

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed

2013-04-23 Thread Cindy D
Patricia!!! OMG!!! THIS IS HIM!!! There's Aunt Annie, Aunt Margaret, Georgie, Uncle Jessie and LOL, my grandpa Jose (we called him Joe, everybody loved Joe!), and Uncle Alfred!!! The first and last time I saw any of them was in 1967 at a funeral in Florida. We had a ball at the funeral, what f

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed

2013-04-23 Thread Cindy D
Elaine- A, this is good. I will need this information for a BUNCH of my New Bedford family. I always try to be very nice, very polite, very thankful when I'm so desperate to connect with my ancestors. I feel like a miracle happens when I find a clue or distant kinI know you all know what

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: New Bedford St John's Cemetery Lookup Needed

2013-04-23 Thread Cindy D
Edward- Thank you. I do believe this is my guy. Now I need a death certificate! CindyD On Apr 15, 9:17 pm, Edward Rodrigues wrote: > There is a Joseph Sylvia listed on find a grave > > Birth:  1875 > Death:  1942 > > Burial: > Saint Johns Cemetery > New Bedford > Bristol County > Massachusetts,

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Silveira Cardoso - Lajes do Pico (Jews?)

2013-04-23 Thread John Raposo
Thanks, Richard! I wonder if anyone has ever see the term "New Christian" on any Azorean vital record. I never have (not even in the earliest records from Ribeira Grande) and I know no one who has. I wonder why. We know that Jews in 16th century Azores converted either willingly or to avoid the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] (Jews?)

2013-04-23 Thread John Raposo
Hello Shirley! Thank you for reminding me that when talking about Azorean-Jewish roots it is important to remember that there was a very busy and well established Jewish presence in the Azores beginning in the 19th century when Jews from Morocco came to the islands. That wave is fairly well doc

[AZORES-Genealogy] GRACIOSA, Luz

2013-04-23 Thread Eliseu Silva
Hi! Does anybody have any information on these: Francisco de Sousa da Silva married Anna Perpétua. His parents were António de Sousa da Silva and Maria Perpétua and her parents were José Espínola Picanço and Maria Perpétua Ortins. Questions about José Espínola Picanço and Maria Perpétua O