Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

The existance of the 2nd marriage of Francisco with Maria Tomasia was known after the birth of son Jose. Francisco received his Divine Sacraments and was accompanied by the College (?) to his grave (maybe that's something like the Knights of Columbus that we have now?) He died with about 74 years

[AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

Hi, I was searching through uminho and came across this for Francisco Leal da Costa: http://www.ghp.ics.uminho.pt/geneweb/gwd.exe?b=CEDROS=pt=NG=Francisco+Leal+da+Costa=PN There is a notes section on the bottom that I tried to translate, but I don't understand what it means. Here it is:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

Looks like most of that list was copied from me and Shirley Allegre. We are the ones that researched that line as we come from Cipriano do Rego and Antonia Barboza. We found 8 children for them. We never found a son named Francisco for Cipriano & Antonia. We never found the baptism of Rosa

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

Thanks. His first wife died in 1944 in Praia do Norte. It doesn't say when his second marriage was so I don't know if this happened while he was still married. It looks like he moved to Cedros after his first wife's death, but I wonder when the son had been born. On Tuesday, September 1, 2015

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Birth Record

It mentions the year 1800 as one thousand eight hundred. Grandparents don't appear until 1860s onwards, as it wasn't a requirement to record them. Cheri -- For options, such as changing to List, Digest, Abridged, or No Mail (vacation) mode, log into your Google account and visit this group at

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Sao Mateus Birth Record

Thanks! On the top it says 1800. Does it mention the year in the record? or his grandparents? On Monday, August 31, 2015 at 7:55:02 PM UTC-7, good...@aol.com wrote: > > Sean, > > According to CITCEM, it's Goulart not Goncalves. > > Gayle > > > > On Aug 31, 2015, at 5:08 PM, Sean Andrade

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

Sean, I'm going to assume that the typo in 1944 should be 1844. Or I hope. The NEPS site has wrong information on this family. They have probably blended 2 different people of the same name. 1784 Francisco Leal da Costa born 1788 Maria Felicia de Jesus born 1808 Francisco & Maria marry 1809

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

This is Rosa's record: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1752-1760_item1/P26.html PG bap- Roza- born- Nov 8- 1753, bap- Nov 15(?)- 1753, filha de Cyprianno do Rego nat PG and Antonia Barboza nat VFSM; Pad- Jozeph Pacheco e

[AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

I've be scouring the parish records for my great grand parents. I have only been able to find the birth record for my great grandmother in candelaria. Her name was Maria Jorge born 1904. She married Manuel Revoredo who was about two years older than his wife. I can't find his record anywhere.

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

You are right! Thank you. On Sep 1, 2015 11:14 PM, "JR" wrote: > That's Thereza. Will send you updated version to your email. > > JR > > On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:59:33 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: >> >> We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. >> >>

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

Thanks. My ancestor, their child, was not listed on that page, Inacia Luisa, who died in 1871, and the death record lists them as the parents and says Francisco Leal is from Castelo Branco. I found the marriage record for Francisco and Maria Felicia in Capelo. It does say that Francisco was

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

Monica, The title of your post contains the word Capelas, which is probably in reference to the one on Sao Miguel island. In the body of your email, you do not mention Capelas once. You talk about Candelaria. Again, no island. There are 2 Candelarias in the Azores. You need to state the island

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

I would like the answer to that question too! I have a few questions: 1. What is the story? I tried to read the section on him in "Familias Antigas Povoação" but my Portuguese is limited. I only recognize words ...something about torture, abandon, going to Rome to ask the Pope for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. Check this out: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752/SMG-VF-PONTAGARCA-B-1739-1752_item1/P142.html Will my Rosa Maria please make herself known? I'm confused. I find it hard to believe that there

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

That's Thereza. Will send you updated version to your email. JR On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 10:59:33 PM UTC-4, manita.morgado wrote: > > We got 2 records for Roza with the same parents. > > Check this out: > > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

Thanks. I will try that. On Tuesday, September 1, 2015 at 2:39:19 PM UTC-7, Cheri Mello wrote: > > I've never seen a death record mention both wives. I've only seen it > mention the marriage to the current wife. So I'd be looking for her. > > Since NEPS says he died in Cedros and gives a date, I

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

Yes, 19 Feb 1846. First wife buried in Praia do Norte. No, usually, marriages on widows and widowers do not list their parents. They list the name of the deceased spouse. You have to go to the previous marriage to get the parents. Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

I've never seen a death record mention both wives. I've only seen it mention the marriage to the current wife. So I'd be looking for her. Since NEPS says he died in Cedros and gives a date, I went to the CCA and found this (Upper left):

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Translation

So I found this record top right: http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847/FAL-HT-CEDROS-C-1829-1847_item1/P111.html It says Francisco Leal is the widow of Maria Felicia. And this second marriage is 1846. It doesn't look like it has his parents and I

[AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

Good morning from Toronto, I have a question about a possible omission in RR's book. Here are the specifics: My 4th great grandparents Rosa Maria Barbosa married Francisco Furtado in 1775, Ponta Garca, Sao Miguel. The marriage record clearly states her parents as Ciprianno do Rego and Antonia

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Revoredo and Paiva in capelas

They are all from the island of San Miguel. The males that I note (Manuel de Luz Revoredo and Jose Paiva), were from Capelas according to my mom. I have checked the records of that parish, Nossa Senhora da Apresentação, which is the one I was baptised in as well. In fact, I have checked all the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

That "Ribeira Quente, limit of the freguesia de Ponta Garca" meant Grotas Fundas? I thought it basically meant the edge of town. I have a lot of ancestors from the "limit!" Things that I learn from this list! Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] João Afonso das Grotas Fundas

I will let people more knowledgeable about Joao Afonso discuss his history and story. For now I can tell you that Grotas Fundas is a neighbourhood, even today, on the eastern border of the village of Ponta Garca. Because of the hills and mountains, the town of Ponta Garca ends there and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

Roza and Thereza can look alike with that fancy writing. Or cryptic calligraphy as one researcher calls it. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 8:16 PM, Manita M

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Bookstores in Sao Miguel

Someone above mentioned the books might be carried at the INSTITUTO CULTURAL DE PONTA DELGADA Just received this email response from them: "We are happy to inform you that we have a complete set of "Genealogias de São Miguel e Santa Maria" (6 volumes), by Rodrigo Rodrigues, available. Price for

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] RR book - Errors and Ommissions

I think it is an omission. Keep in mind that Rodrigo Rodrigues never considered his work finished.It was always a work in progress. He worked on it for decades and eventually got old and did less and less. It remained in an unedited version for many, many years after his death. So what you have