Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John's Cemetery Book (New Bedford, Massachusetts)

2018-07-21 Thread Gloria Thompson
Thank you for the information Cheri. My check is in the mail. Gloria T On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 7:06 PM Cheri Mello wrote: > The American Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society (APGHS) > published the work of the Amarals (Gil and Pat, I think), who walked the > St. John's Cemetery in New

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] St. John's Cemetery Book (New Bedford, Massachusetts)

2018-07-21 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
You all might need to know that Pat and Gil Amaral walked the Cemetery in the late 1970's early 1980's so there are no names of people after that date. Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terceira, Graciosa, Faial and Pico, Azores, Isola delle Femmine, Sant' Elia, Sicily On Sat, Ju

[AZORES-Genealogy] St. John's Cemetery Book (New Bedford, Massachusetts)

2018-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
The American Portuguese Genealogical and Historical Society (APGHS) published the work of the Amarals (Gil and Pat, I think), who walked the St. John's Cemetery in New Bedford, Massachusetts and recorded the tombstones. For those who don't know, St. John the Baptist Church was the first Portuguese

[AZORES-Genealogy] Nossa Senhora da Agua de Lupe, Graciosa

2018-07-21 Thread bsei2816
I found these in Ribeirinha, Terceira but I wasn't looking for a freguesia called "Agua de Lupe" These are written by the same priest who perhaps never heard of Nossa Senhora da Guadalupe. *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-1831-1842/TER-AH-RIBEIRINHA-O-183

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Maria Lima
Cathy- I LOVE that you always document. Thank you. I think we found three connections (?) good to hear fm you Maria Elena > On Jul 21, 2018, at 4:51 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > > Maria L said, "On Ancestry I had entered names and photos and some people > picked up the “leaf hints...” > > S

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help reading Altares marriage of Maria Josefaand Manuel Ferreira de Melo

2018-07-21 Thread bsei2816
Sorry Doreen but I only have what I got from that record because I do not have this couple. As far as I know you and I still only connect distantly in our shared Ribeirinha ancestry. One thing from the record I didn't mention is that the groom was "disobrigado" for lent at the parish in Sao B

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Maria L said, "On Ancestry I had entered names and photos and some people picked up the “leaf hints...” Sometimes, I think they ought to change those little green leaves to red herrings! Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ri

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares marriage of Jose Coelho de Ornelas and Isabel Joaquina

2018-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Bill S, Yes, with practice, everyone can get the hang of "reading" the records :) Cheri Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: São Miguel island: Vila Franca, Ponta Garca, Ribeira Quente, Ribeira das Tainhas, Achada On Sat, Jul 21, 2018 at 1:25 PM, wrote: > Tough record, but I came to

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help reading Altares marriage of Maria Josefaand Manuel Ferreira de Melo

2018-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
Thanks Bill. Do you know anything else about this couple? I have another Manuel Ferreira de Melo and Maria da Conceicao in my tree and wonder if they are the same. If so it may explain some odd DNA results where a child has more shared DNA than the parent. It may be that they connect through a o

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Maria Lima
Doreen, it’s true that some people do not document and that there are errors. I found this to be true for both Ancestry and Family search. It’s frustrating when you research and document and someone enters incorrect info in your line even when the documentation is right there as a “Source”.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help reading Altares marriage of Maria Josefaand Manuel Ferreira de Melo

2018-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
Thank you again, In the last few days I have had big break through on this tree. Looking forward to sharing this the family. Doreen Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: bsei2...@gmail.com Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 2:17 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help reading Alta

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: help reading Altares marriage of Maria Josefa and Manuel Ferreira de Melo

2018-07-21 Thread bsei2816
Hi Doreen, I believe the groom is Manuel Ferreira De Melo, son of Manuel Ferreira de Melo and Angela Vitoria, native of Sao Jorge parish in Doze Ribeiras. I believe I found the groom's parent's marriage here (left) *http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/TER-AH-DOZERIBEIRAS-C-17

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares marriage of Jose Coelhode Ornelas and Isabel Joaquina

2018-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
She was the one I had the questions on so thank you. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Cheri Mello Sent: Saturday, July 21, 2018 1:18 PM To: Azores Genealogy Subject: Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares marriage of Jose Coelhode Ornelas and Isabel Joaquina It's a little light or faded

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares marriage of Jose Coelho de Ornelas and Isabel Joaquina

2018-07-21 Thread bsei2816
Tough record, but I came to same conclusions as Cheri including the date and further confirmed the names of the parents in the Terceira Marriage Index. I must be getting better at this. Bill Seidler > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Azores Genea

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares marriage of Jose Coelho de Ornelas and Isabel Joaquina

2018-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
It's a little light or faded. 18 May 1795 (I used the record below to get the year...someone else may read 18 May differently) Groom: Jose Coelho de Ornellas, son of Antonio Coelho de Ornellas and Josefa Maria Bride: Isabel Joaquina, daughter of Francisco (I think) Coelho Gomes and Rosa Jacinta, n

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help reading Altares marriage of Jose Coelho de Ornelas and Isabel Joaquina

2018-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
Wow I can not believe my luck. I had been search the index and could not find this couple. I decided to look at the marriage record of godparents of their child . Was just trying to get my bearing in the records and my first click was the page for the couple I was actually looking for…lucky me.

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Cathy Bourgeois
If I contribute to that site, I always attach the record, but yes, a lot of the information is wrong or they have the same children twice with two different dates, etc. But it may give you some hints to verify on your own. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Saturday

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Mary Bordi
I have seen that all the time on Ancestry. Ive looked on Family Search because someone claimed the info was well documented but in the little investigating I’ve done there I don’t see where it’s any better than Ancestry. (I may be wrong!) I hate it on Ancestry when I get a new “hint” that looks pr

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel F. Sylvia/Silva

2018-07-21 Thread Elaine Mello
hi E, Yes, last year when I went down to New Bedford, I found the office at another location an they gave me directions to the plot for my grandparents at St. John's. Chery, I'd definitely love to buy a copy of the book! thanks for looking into it! Elaine On Friday, July 20, 2018 at 10:08:

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
You are right, Cheri, no documentation is required and that is the big problem. People just put stuff in and if there is a 'clue' about another name to add, they just do it without verifying. Just be careful what you add to your tree, Doreen! Rosemarie rcap...@gmail.com Researching Sao Jorge, Terc

RE: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
Thank you for the insight. This is how misinformation continues to get spread. I need new leads to trace so I will use what I can for a new direction in my research but will need to be careful. I will verify and document. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Rosemarie Capodicci Sent: Saturday, J

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Cheri Mello
Isn't that their "One World Family Tree?" They tried to merge all their stuff together. Anyone can contribute their information and anyone can correct information. No documentation required. I won't be submitting my stuff there. Rosemarie Capodicci or Gayle Machado may know more since they work (no

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread Rosemarie Capodicci
These entries are put in by many people and if they are not really genealogists, they just copy and paste what they find on other databases like Ancestry.com. You have to do what you always should do and that's *verify everything*! Unless it is your ancestor and you know for sure the correct dates

[AZORES-Genealogy] Family Search data base

2018-07-21 Thread doreencaetano
I just started exploring the Family Search database. In one case I found children older than their parents. In another case I found a death date but when I when to it that date in the records it is not there. Is this typical for this database? Are there so many error? Is there a way to access th

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Manuel F. Sylvia/Silva

2018-07-21 Thread Ken Costa
I would be interested in a copy of this book as I also have many family members buried in St. John's Cemetery.Please keep me posted. Thanks, Maggie On Fri, Jul 20, 2018 at 11:13 PM, Cheri Mello wrote: > Ernest Cardoza called me back. He still has copies of the books. He doesn't > know how m