Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-05 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Diane, My ggfather's name was Jose de Medeiros, passport was issued Sep 20 1897, # 510, passenger # 1038 and it is on line at the cca site. This GGF also after having returned from Africa showed up with an additional last name "Salgadinho". I was sent on a wild goose chase when I started the f

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-04 Thread Diane
Hi Mara What year did your GGrandfather go to Africa? Where did you get the passports? Maybe they went to Africa for work. Was there any particular gold mining or the like I wonder. Just a thought. Thanks for the link to the Qland gov. site. I haven't looked at the Qland records for a whil

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-04 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hello Diane, My ggfather went to Africa from Sao Miguel at 20 years of age, a newlywed with a good reason to return, his wife. When I look at the passports it showed only 3 men leaving for Africa...why did he do it? We can only guess. I found this link http://www.slq.qld.gov.au/resources/family-

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-03 Thread Diane
Hi Mara Yes he could have gone to the USA first but my Grandma never mentioned anywhere by Hawaii and I know from my research that there were many, many whaling boats in the harbours at that time. Also the fact that he had no trouble changing his name means that it's hard to know who to look f

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi, These certificates were in the form of a piece of paper and I don't imagine there is a registry for it. And that's correct, only Sao Miguel has passports on line and they start in 1875. It's a difficult task to trace whalers. Have you considered the possibility he entered the USA first befo

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-02 Thread Diane
That is a great help thank you Margaret I think that my GGrandfather Joaquim left Sao Jorge in around 1870 and his brother Manuel was 3 years younger, so maybe the certificate is about a passport. Or, as you say, his marriage if it is 1877. I will search the marriages for Manuel. It was not

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-02 Thread Margaret Vicente
Diane, First to clarify my 1871? 1877. It means I'm not sure if it reads 1871 or 1877 because the writing was too small and faded. Priests side notes on baptismal records are related to the person the record belongs to, in this case, the child, Manuel. He could have needed a proof of birth or b

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Diane
Hi Margaret What does the notation mean then? does it mean that this Victorina died in 1871??? Please excuse my ignorance, still learning. thanks for the link - yes I already had that one. Diane On Friday, 2 November 2012 11:25:25 UTC+10:30, Mara wrote: > No, that's not it Diane. > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Margaret Vicente
No, that's not it Diane. 1a. certidao em 16 de Outubro 1871. Translated - First certificate on 16-Oct-1871 I also found this, don't if you already have manuel's birth record, child of Christiano and Victorina. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-VL-URZELINA-B-1841-1855/SJR-

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Diane
I think I have just made the link that confirms that she is the same person. there is a notation in the margin of her son's baptism record and appears to be the recording of her death. Being new to this research I had not taken much notice of it before. It appears to be 16 Sept ?? which is the

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Diane
Sorry this may have beem misleading. I meant that she was "Victorina Rosa" on her marriage and the baptism of her sons. Diane On Friday, 2 November 2012 07:56:54 UTC+10:30, Diane wrote: > Thank you to Cheri, Marcio and Mara for your replies. I do have most > of those other records and the o

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Diane
Thank you to Cheri, Marcio and Mara for your replies. I do have most of those other records and the only thing that didn't fit was "Constancia". She is "Rosa" on her marriage and the baptism of her sons in 1850 and 1853. On her baptism and Christiano's second marriage record, she is just Victor

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa att. Diane

2012-11-01 Thread Marcio Borba
-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa Para: azores@googlegroups.com Data: Quarta-feira, 31 de Outubro de 2012, 23:09 I know that my GGGrandmother from Urzelina died somewhere between 1853 and 1863. I have searched the registers many times and the only record that shows the names

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Margaret Vicente
Diane, A genealogist may have some recommendations but I would start by searching for her birth record to confirm parents. Check for this couple's children's birth records starting from Sep 16th, date of her death which could have been due to childbirth. You may be able to obtain information fro

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-11-01 Thread Cheri Mello
Diane D, It's probably her. Do you find any other Victorina (Rosa or Constancia) having babies with another Cristiano Machado (or Machado Pereira)? If you don't find another Cristiano/Vitorina couple, then that's your Vitorina's obit. You can also look for Cristiano's 2nd marriage and see what

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-10-31 Thread Diane
thank you Margaret. I am even now more confused because my Victorina Rosa, who died around this time and was married to Christiano Machado Pereira, would have been 28 when she died and she belonged to that parish. So all the information is there except "Constancia" second name. She was Victorin

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-10-31 Thread Margaret Vicente
Diane, On the 16th day of the month of September of the year 1853 passed away Victoria Constancia who was the wife of Christiano Machado with all the sacraments at 28 years of age more or less. Margaret Vicente On Wed, Oct 31, 2012 at 6:09 PM, Diane wrote: > I know that my GGGrandmother from

[AZORES-Genealogy] Help with on obit please - Victorina Rosa

2012-10-31 Thread Diane
I know that my GGGrandmother from Urzelina died somewhere between 1853 and 1863. I have searched the registers many times and the only record that shows the names of her and her husband in any format is the following. 3rd par on right. http://culturacores.azores.gov.pt/biblioteca_digital/SJR-V