Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Consanguinity of couple in attached marriage record

2016-08-08 Thread Cheri Mello
Bill said, "one bride/groom is a great grandchild and the other a great-great grandchild of a single common ancestor" Yes, that is my understanding. Hopefully, Joao Ventura, the archivist will read this and confirm or elaborate. Cheri Mello Listowner, Azores-Gen Researching: Vila Franca, Ponta

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Consanguinity of couple in attached marriage record

2016-08-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Bill, I think my response has been inhibited somewhat so, perhaps it's best to wait for the recommendation Cheri just made. Cheers, On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 12:35 PM, wrote: > Thank you Margaret. > > I realized that when I realized it was actually the left record. > >

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Consanguinity of couple in attached marriage record

2016-08-08 Thread bsei2816
Thank you Margaret. I realized that when I realized it was actually the left record. Since it says 3rd and 4th degree, does that mean that one bride/groom is a great grandchild and the other a great-great grandchild of a single common ancestor, or that they have two common ancestors (one and

Re: [AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Consanguinity of couple in attached marriage record

2016-08-08 Thread Margaret Vicente
Hi Lee and Bill, Lee, you read it correctly. They obtained dispensation to marry due to their consanguinity in the 3rd degree. It means they have a Great Grandfather in Common. Their Grandparents were brothers or sisters of one another and their Parents were first Cousins as a result. On Mon,

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Consanguinity of couple in attached marriage record

2016-08-08 Thread bsei2816
Lee, I now think you may have meant the left side which looks like it might be Jose da Rocha (I can't really make it out, but this might be the name; I do not see Domingos) marrying Maria Joaquina. The note on the bottom says they had a dispensation for consanguinity in the 3rd and 4th

[AZORES-Genealogy] Re: Consanguinity of couple in attached marriage record

2016-08-08 Thread bsei2816
Lee, I don't see any reference to consanguinity in this record. I think the couple in this marriage is Domingos da Rocha (I don't see Jose), son of Lourenço de Freitas and Maria do Espirito Santo marrying Jeronima Luiza (I don't see Maria Joaquina), daughter of Manuel Cardoza and Gracia