Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-13 Thread vijay chopra
Shame; even thought I hate DRM, I know that PHBs love it, and if they cant work it, it means the Beeb might scram iMP :(On 13/11/05, Dave Whitehead < [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Seems BBC may have a problem with the iMP trial, apparently it's possible to get round the DRM thus taking away the

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-13 Thread Adam Leach
This is a bigger problem as iMP is using standard Microsoft WMA DRM files. As this is widely used, there are more people interested in bypassing the DRM system, and so eventually it will always be bypassed, plus its created by Microsoft. Other codecs are less widely used and known about, so i

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-13 Thread Dave Whitehead
Problem is they will be free to UK tv licence payers, there will be insentive for people outside the UK to try and bypass it Dave - Original Message - From: "Adam Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [backstage] iMP iss

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-13 Thread vijay chopra
licence payers, there will be insentive for people outside the UK to try and bypass itDave- Original Message -From: "Adam Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <backstage@lists.bbc.co.uk>Sent: Sunday, November 13, 2005 2:49 PMSubject: Re: [backstage] iMP issue> This is a

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-13 Thread nmec
lem is they will be free to UK tv licence payers, there will be > > insentive for people outside the UK to try and bypass it > > > > Dave > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Adam Leach" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: >

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-14 Thread Richard Lockwood
On 11/13/05, Adam Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is a bigger problem as iMP is using standard Microsoft WMA DRM > files. As this is widely used, there are more people interested in > bypassing the DRM system, and so eventually it will always be bypassed, Fair enough > plus its created b

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-22 Thread Amias Channer
On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:22:53 + Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 11/13/05, Adam Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is a bigger problem as iMP is using standard Microsoft WMA DRM > > files. As this is widely used, there are more people interested in > > bypassing the DRM

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-22 Thread Richard Lockwood
On 11/22/05, Amias Channer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 14 Nov 2005 08:22:53 + > Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 11/13/05, Adam Leach <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is a bigger problem as iMP is using standard Microsoft WMA DRM > > > files. As this is widely

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-23 Thread Amias Channer
On Tue, 22 Nov 2005 14:06:34 + Richard Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > 1. Don't even *think* about telling me what I should and shouldn't support this is not about you its about what is a good codec to use for the BBC's IMP system , a system that is supposed to be platform agnostic . A

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-24 Thread Nico Morrison
Time for my 2 p - been monitoring this list since it started - has noone suggested that the Beeb use their extraordinary visibility & 'customer base' to emulate Google on a paid ad basis? Example might be a Beeb player or toolbar or both that returned viewing, lisening, browsing information to a c

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-24 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, On 11/24/05, Nico Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Time for my 2 p - been monitoring this list since it started - has > noone suggested that the Beeb use their extraordinary visibility & > 'customer base' to emulate Google on a paid ad basis? Umm...the BBC aren't allowed to take money fr

RE: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-24 Thread Luke Dicken
> On 11/24/05, Nico Morrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Time for my 2 p - been monitoring this list since it started - has > > noone suggested that the Beeb use their extraordinary visibility & > > 'customer base' to emulate Google on a paid ad basis? > > Umm...the BBC aren't allowed to take

RE: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-25 Thread J.P.Knight
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005, Luke Dicken wrote: Umm...the BBC aren't allowed to take money from advertising are they? Andy That's what I'd have thought. And it jolly nice to have one major media outlet on the web that *isn't* stuffing your browser full of banner ads, targetted popups, etc, etc. Lon

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-25 Thread Kirk Northrop
Andy Hawkins wrote: Umm...the BBC aren't allowed to take money from advertising are they? No... but BBC Worldwide are... -- From the North, this is Kirk www.noisetosignal.org - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://backstage.bbc.co.uk/archive

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-25 Thread Andy Hawkins
Hi, On 11/24/05, Kirk Northrop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Andy Hawkins wrote: > > Umm...the BBC aren't allowed to take money from advertising are they? > > No... but BBC Worldwide are... Ah. Ok. Andy - Sent via the backstage.bbc.co.uk discussion group. To unsubscribe, please visit http://ba

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-25 Thread Gordon Joly
At 19:40 + 24/11/05, Kirk Northrop wrote: Andy Hawkins wrote: Umm...the BBC aren't allowed to take money from advertising are they? No... but BBC Worldwide are... BBC Worldwide Limited is company, wholly owned by the BBC, that sells BBC merchandise (e.g. video and audio recordings of B

Re: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-26 Thread Nico Morrison
Good that kneejerk reaction resulted in dialogue & useful information. The BBC is in a major struggle for funding, markets, viewers, listeners, browsers, players & global societal role . next year sees massive changes in department structures, employment & directions. Consider the alternative

RE: [backstage] iMP issue

2005-11-28 Thread Kim Plowright
>BBC Worldwide Limited is company, wholly owned by the BBC, that sells >BBC merchandise (e.g. video and audio recordings of BBC programmes, >books, magazines, toys and games). They're primarily there to hold the rights to BBC productions for commercial exploitation - ie, for rebroadcast interna