Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-25 Thread dan
first thing first. get your drives down to ~%80 usage! degragging the drives is useless unless you make some room. second, reiserfs sounds like a great filesystem, but in practice it is not very good at long term performance and reliability. i have worked with filesystems on many many systems a

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-24 Thread David Rees
On 10/24/07, Hendrik Friedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Well, what surprises me is, that I can't hear it seeking... Try using `iostat 3` or similar during a backup. Typical 7200 rpm IDE disks can't do more than 100-150 IOP/s or so. > /dev/hda5 94% /mnt/data <--xfs, not used by backuppc > /dev/h

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-24 Thread Hendrik Friedel
Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply, and sorry, for not answering. I was quite busy. > Gesendet: Dienstag, 9. Oktober 2007 08:39 > Betreff: Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? > > Ok, what I did now was a backup of localhost. Here, the > > network cannot be the

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread David Rees
On 10/8/07, Hendrik Friedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok, what I did now was a backup of localhost. Here, the network cannot be > the bottleneck, and I can check the rest with vmstat, too. By the way: The > Pool-Disk is dedicated an not the source disk for the backup. > > Here's the vmstat. I ho

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread Hendrik Friedel
Hello, > > Sorry, but I really don't know, how to interpret it. I know > (read it > > in the > > man-page) what the columns are, but still I cannot draw conclusions. > > I snipped a bit of it and fixed the word wrapping (hopefully) > to make it a bit easier to read. Thanks for that. > CPU,

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom
On 10/07 09:40 , Hendrik Friedel wrote: > I'm not too familiar with processes under linux. There are about 10 > Processes "vdr", using exactly the same amount of mem(7.5%), but having a > different PID. So do I have to add these up (then it would be 75% mem Usage > by vdr), or is it just one job, t

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread David Rees
On 10/8/07, Hendrik Friedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > procs ---memory-- ---swap-- -io -system-- cpu > r b swpd free buff cache si sobibo in cs us sy id wa > 3 0 80 6944 32080 32842800 668 1176 3503 7659 33 29 38 0 > 1

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread Hendrik Friedel
Hi Dave, Thanks for your reply. > > So what do you think is a good approach to find out what slows > > backuppc down? > > Running top and vmstat 3 while a backup is running works very > well and will help track down where the bottleneck is. I did this. Here's an extract from it: procs ---

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread Hendrik Friedel
Hello, > > The throughput of incremental backups is around 0.5 to 1.5 MB/s for > > these hosts (-> > > That's not really unreasonable as long as the backups can > complete overnight or in the time window available. I > usually have 4 concurrent runs and see similar speeds. That's not applica

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? - the right scheduler could help

2007-10-08 Thread Martin Sundmacher
Hendrik Friedel schrieb: > I hope, it's somewhat readable. Can you comment it? Is it normal, that it > takes about 80 minutes for a backup? > Yes, i have backups who take much longer. Just reading in the german Linux Magazin 11/07 on page 87 that the right Scheduler could help. Try to activat

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread Les Mikesell
Hendrik Friedel wrote: > I have three hosts, that are backed up: > Localhost (backuppc server, linux, tar) > Julepc (LAN (100 Mbit), WinXP, rsyncd) > Laptophen (WLAN (54 Mbit), WinXP, rsyncd) > > The throughput of incremental backups is around 0.5 to 1.5 MB/s for these > hosts (-> That's not re

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-08 Thread Mike O'Shaughnessy
>> Complaints about slow backup times.. >> It's a AthlonXP 1600, 512MB Ram. >> Both disks are Samsung Spinpoint. >> hda: SAMSUNG HD400LD, ATA DISK drive >> hdb: SAMSUNG HD300LD, ATA DISK drive The problem is likely your disk configuration on your backup host. 1) Don't use master/slave on a

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread David Rees
On 10/7/07, Hendrik Friedel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > So what do you think is a good approach to find out what slows backuppc > down? Running top and vmstat 3 while a backup is running works very well and will help track down where the bottleneck is. -Dave

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Holger Parplies
Hi, Hendrik Friedel wrote on 07.10.2007 at 22:57:53 [Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?]: > > So what do you think is a good approach to find out what slows backuppc > down? to be honest, this whole thread is barely readable, partly due to top-posting, part

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Les Mikesell
Hendrik Friedel wrote: > Hi, > > Well, top tells me, BackupPc_dump is using about 10% of mem and about 50% > CPU. With this, BackupPC is the top resource user. > I'm not too familiar with processes under linux. There are about 10 > Processes "vdr", using exactly the same amount of mem(7.5%), but

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Hendrik Friedel
;backuppc-users' Betreff: RE: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? Free memory is *not* a good measure. You have to look at the memory allocated to cache and buffers, also displayed with top. BackupPC_dump is rather I/O intensive. It is very common for all free memory to be allo

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Mike O'Shaughnessy
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hendrik Friedel Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 3:40 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: 'backuppc-users' Subject: Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? Hi, Well, top tells me, BackupPc_dump is using about 10% of mem and abo

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Hendrik Friedel
liche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 17:55 An: Hendrik Friedel Cc: 'backuppc-users' Betreff: Re: AW: AW: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? Hello Hendrik, Am Sonntag, den 07.10.2007, 17:46 +0200 schrieb

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Renke Brausse
Hello Hendrik, Am Sonntag, den 07.10.2007, 17:46 +0200 schrieb Hendrik Friedel: > Could you give me a hint, how I can check, what process is using the Mem? What about top sorted by memory usage? -- rbrausse ferdinand-kopf-str 7 79117 freiburg +497613845491 ---

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Hendrik Friedel
endet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 16:42 An: Hendrik Friedel Cc: 'backuppc-users' Betreff: Re: AW: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? Hello Hendrik, Am Sonntag, den 07.10.2007, 14:57 +0200 schrieb Hendrik Friedel: > I noticed something else, though: The moment I sta

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Renke Brausse
Hello Hendrik, Am Sonntag, den 07.10.2007, 14:57 +0200 schrieb Hendrik Friedel: > I noticed something else, though: The moment I start the backup, the > free-mem drops to 6MB (from 400MB; I have 512MB). This might be the > bottleneck, don't you think? My backup host uses the double amount of RAM

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Hendrik Friedel
-Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 12:09 An: Hendrik Friedel; backuppc-users Betreff: Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? Hello Hendrik, on localhost I see in your pdf many transfer errors - it is p

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-07 Thread Renke Brausse
> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Gesendet: Sonntag, 7. Oktober 2007 00:35 > An: Hendrik Friedel; backuppc-users > Betreff: Re: AW: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take? > > Hello Hendrik, > > did you ever run a hdd benchmark on your

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-06 Thread Renke Brausse
Hello Hendrik, did you ever run a hdd benchmark on your backup host? < 1 MB/s for the backup of the localhost is incredible slow. I have no experience with rsync on Windows, did you ever try to use smb as transport? Renke Am Samstag, den 06.10.2007, 23:59 +0200 schrieb Hendrik Friedel: > Hi, >

Re: [BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-06 Thread Renke Brausse
Hello Hendrik, it isn't readable (at least very good ;) ) and what kind of trasfer method do you use? I have on host which performance with both rsyncd and rsync over ssh is crap so I switched to tar. Greetings, Renke -- rbrausse ferdinand-kopf-str 7 79117 freiburg +497613845491 Am Samstag, d

[BackupPC-users] How long does a normal Backup take?

2007-10-06 Thread Hendrik Friedel
Hello, I'm a bit disapointed about how long it takes to backup my hosts. Could you please take a look, and check whether this is normal: Backup# Typ #DateienGröße/MBMB/sec #Dateien Größe/MB#DateienGröße/MB Host#1: localhost 18 voll