Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread David Boyes
> > OK, neat. Does that also allow regeneration of the file while the daemon > > is running, eg, what happens if you issue a reload command? Do you get a > > updated file? > > Yes. Whenever Bacula tries to open a configuration file, it instead > opens a pipe. Cool. That'll work for me. Nice job,

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread Flak Magnet
Jorj Bauer wrote: >> Since he has implemented it as an enhancement of the conf file specification >> at the lexically scanner level, it will apply to *all* Bacula components >> that >> accept the -c option, which is every component (or tool) that needs a conf >> file. > > Yes, that's exactly

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread Jorj Bauer
> OK, neat. Does that also allow regeneration of the file while the daemon > is running, eg, what happens if you issue a reload command? Do you get a > updated file? Yes. Whenever Bacula tries to open a configuration file, it instead opens a pipe. > Reason for the question: in a larger environme

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread David Boyes
> > Since he has implemented it as an enhancement of the conf file > specification > > at the lexically scanner level, it will apply to *all* Bacula components > that > > accept the -c option, which is every component (or tool) that needs a > conf > > file. > Yes, that's exactly what the patch doe

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread Jorj Bauer
> > Thinking out loud about how to implement this: would you consider a > > directive that specified a script to be run whenever a Bacula component > > needed to open or reference the config file that would supply the name > > of a file to read for the information? The idea would be similar to the

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Wednesday 02 May 2007 16:56, David Boyes wrote: > > I have no problems with putting the bacula conf files in to the > database > > if > > someone wants to do so. However, I don't foresee any change in the > ASCOO > > format that Bacula requires -- i.e. I don't foresee Bacula reading its > > con

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread David Boyes
> I have no problems with putting the bacula conf files in to the database > if > someone wants to do so. However, I don't foresee any change in the ASCOO > format that Bacula requires -- i.e. I don't foresee Bacula reading its > conf > file directly from an SQL database. Fair enough. Thinking

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-02 Thread Ralf Winkler
Uhm, sorry, just read this thread. We have made something like this for our company, I am sure we did not match all the requirements. But we use a XML file and then generate the config file. The program is writen in php. I will try to make it available in the next few days. Ralf *Ralf Winkler**

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-01 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 26 April 2007 23:32, Darien Hager wrote: > David Boyes wrote: > >> Brainstorming idea: XML with Schema validation? > >> > >> * The config would be a plain file and portable. > > > > Ugh. "plain XML" is a matter of opinion -- XML of any real complexity > > couldn't be hand-coded. > >

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-01 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 26, 2007, at 4:59 PM, Adam Thornton wrote: > On Apr 26, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Dan Langille wrote: >> Fruity is the configuration tool for Nagios. I suggest that such a >> tool for Bacula would be useful too. >> >> However, all configuration files should be plain text. Much like >> what Fruit

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-05-01 Thread Adam Thornton
On Apr 26, 2007, at 4:41 PM, Dan Langille wrote: > Fruity is the configuration tool for Nagios. I suggest that such a > tool for Bacula would be useful too. > > However, all configuration files should be plain text. Much like > what Fruity does. Unlike Nagios, Bacula already has an include direc

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread Dan Langille
On 26 Apr 2007 at 11:57, Darien Hager wrote: > Brainstorming idea: XML with Schema validation? Please no. > * The config would be a plain file and portable. > * It would be relatively easy for admins to write tools to read and > write from the config. > * With a library that supports validation

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread Darien Hager
David Boyes wrote: >> Brainstorming idea: XML with Schema validation? >> >> * The config would be a plain file and portable. > > Ugh. "plain XML" is a matter of opinion -- XML of any real complexity > couldn't be hand-coded. Well, myself I have very similar Job and Client definitions for about

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread David Boyes
> On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: > > This has been rejected before, and the reason being that you really > > don't want to have to have a database in order to read your tapes. I would disagree with you here. What I want is to get back to a controlled restore process that non

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread Kern Sibbald
On Thursday 26 April 2007 20:57, Darien Hager wrote: > Cross-posting this particular reply to the developers list as well... > > On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: > > This has been rejected before, and the reason being that you really > > don't want to have to have a database in

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread Darien Hager
Cross-posting this particular reply to the developers list as well... On Apr 26, 2007, at 8:16 AM, Ryan Novosielski wrote: > This has been rejected before, and the reason being that you really > don't want to have to have a database in order to read your tapes. If > you have an emergency that you

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread Stephan Wendl
I thought of this also a while ago, but thought the efforts would be too much. Here is what I came up with: Use a shell/perl/php script to retrieve values from sql-DB into the conf file for Each deamon before it starts up (minimizes sw changes to bacula) All that needs to Be know then is the DB

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread Ryan Novosielski
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Boyes wrote: >>> The design of a GUI for bacula may revolve arround interfacing with >>> the dameons. I was wondering >>> if just designing a GUI for config file modification might simply >>> suffice, i.e. a config file editor with >>> the smar

Re: [Bacula-users] [Bacula-devel] Bacula GUI

2007-04-26 Thread David Boyes
> > The design of a GUI for bacula may revolve arround interfacing with > > the dameons. I was wondering > > if just designing a GUI for config file modification might simply > > suffice, i.e. a config file editor with > > the smarts of syntax checking and linking of all the resources in > > the