Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: [AID Bangalore] Richard Stallman would be glad to vist our computer center

2008-11-12 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Nov 11, 2008 at 10:42:53PM +0530, Vishal wrote: >Richard Stallman might be coming to Bangalore. > Please keep the group informed about rms talk-schedules in Bangalore. Though this group is specific to Python, idealist like rms and his thoughts are worthy to listen. -- Senthil _

Re: [BangPypers] Congratulations to India for Landing on the Moon!

2008-11-15 Thread Senthil Kumaran
First of all Thank you, Jeff. Even I got curious after reading your email. We know python.org advertises NASA using Python. Let us try to figure out the software components used at ISRO and Chandrayaan. Deepak, agree with your comment on their website. Ignoring that, do not underestimate the pro

Re: [BangPypers] Pythonizing an algorithm

2008-12-04 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:07 PM, Shashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man5/deb-version.htm > > in the Sorting Algorithm section... I can't > understand a little bit of it... Please help Did not look at the code and went to algorithm to see what it is.

Re: [BangPypers] python

2009-01-09 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Hi Sree Vatsa, Search the archives of this group. You will find post by a member who listed the companies. Good luck with your search (both in the group archives and with companies). And I personally feel that is a bad practise to advertise yourself as Job seeker in Group emails. Job sites are f

Re: [BangPypers] need help in trying to create a python web bot

2009-01-13 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: >> Hi, >> > Are you trying to call the search API ? If so, the default urllib/urllib2 > actions won't help you, since all these result in GET requests. > If you try to use HTTP GET you will get "405 - Method not allowed". > > You need to POST to this API. It is

Re: [BangPypers] from __past__ import PyHistory

2009-01-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Guido has started a new blog where he will > recount the history of Python in a series of posts. > > He has already made two posts so far. > > http://python-history.blogspot.com/ > I just thought, if he has added " from __past__ import PyHistory" also. Hahaha.

Re: [BangPypers] from __past__ import PyHistory

2009-01-14 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> "Beautiful is better than Ugly" > ZEN: Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules. 1) Character being a string datatype of length 1 illustrates that. There is no character datatype. This is opposite way of thinking that string is an array of characters, making character as the spec

[BangPypers] Woonerf and Python - Article by Ian Bicking

2009-01-21 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Ian Bicking has written a nice article titled "Woonerf and Python". http://blog.ianbicking.org/2009/01/16/woonerf-and-python/ Makes an important statement at the end, that as the Python gains popularity will be able to sustain the high traffic needs of users with various different objectives. -

Re: [BangPypers] PyXML deprecated?

2009-01-25 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Hello Gagan, > I am new user of Python and using Python 2.5.1. I noticed that PyXML package > is not included by default. Is PyXML deprecated and no more supported ? > What are you using PyXML for? It is not a part of the standard library. If you require XML Parsing, the elementtree out there is

Re: [BangPypers] ImportError: cannot import name make_option

2009-01-26 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> OOMMEN KM wrote: > > > As I was trying to build my first site in Django, I gave the > django-admin.py command I got the following error. > > > Traceback (most recent call last): Seems to be a problem either with your installation of Django or incompatibility issue. Couple of

[BangPypers] [Off-topic] Django +lightpd

2009-02-04 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Feb 5, 2009 at 9:42 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > why am I seeing stars? That is because, you are either using mutt, elmo, pico or a mail client with text only output and it is automatically converting the html bold to text within stars. -- Senthil _

Re: [BangPypers] Are comprehensions faster?

2009-02-09 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 5:55 PM, Chetan Nichkawde wrote: > Are comprehensions (list, dict, set) supposed to run faster than regular > approach? Thats quite an interesting question, which led me to do some research and discussions/ Lets do some benchmarking: # using list comprehension: >>> impor

Re: [BangPypers] Are comprehensions faster?

2009-02-09 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Feb 9, 2009 at 7:06 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: >>>> timeit.Timer("for i in range(1000): >>>> l.append(i)","l=[]").timeit(number=1000) > 0.21927285194396973 > > You see that is slow and the reason is l.append being called again >

Re: [BangPypers] Python easter eggs :)

2009-02-10 Thread Senthil Kumaran
In Py3K, >>> import antigravity That was Skip, who did that! :) -- Senthil On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:38 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > import __phello__ >> Hello world... > > Apparently, happens only the first

Re: [BangPypers] Python easter eggs :)

2009-02-10 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Well, my favorite is not just import this but >>>import this >>>print this.s -- Senthil On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:41 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > In Py3K, > >>>> import antigravity > > That was Skip, who did that! :) > > -- > Senthil > &

Re: [BangPypers] Python easter eggs :)

2009-02-10 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:54 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > If anyone had a doubt whether to use list comprehension > in their code, they have the answer - it is right there > as part of the Zen of Python ...:) Thats a good way of looking at things. :) -- -- Senthil __

[BangPypers] Fwd: ANN: Python 2.6 Quick Reference available

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
This is an useful resource. -- Senthil -- Forwarded message -- From: Richard Gruet Date: Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 12:24 AM Subject: ANN: Python 2.6 Quick Reference available To: comp-lang-python-annou...@moderators.isc.org The Python 2.6 Quick Reference is available in HTML and

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: ANN: Python 2.6 Quick Reference available

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 2:11 PM, Parthan SR wrote: > this? Was it a link or an attachment? The Python 2.6 Quick Reference is available in HTML and PDF formats at http://rgruet.free.fr/#QuickRef. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@pytho

Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python programmers required

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
If you do a REPLY or REPLY-ALL it will go the list. On a different note, I think email clients should be designed to handle this behavior irrespective of what is set up by the mailling list. For eg, in mutt, you do 'g' to reply to the list. and 'r' to reply to the sender only, when the standard-r

Re: [BangPypers] [JOB] Python programmers required

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 5:39 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > s/softwares/software/ E486: Pattern not found: softwares -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

[BangPypers] Fwd: Chicago Python User Group

2009-02-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
FYI :- I should say, For Your Inspiration! On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 9:18 AM, Carl Karsten wrote: > Chicago Python User Group > = > > Go ChiPy! After last month's hugely successful language comparison mayhem, > the world's most successful user group strikes again! > > Robot

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: Chicago Python User Group

2009-02-12 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Feb 12, 2009 at 2:17 PM, Baiju M wrote: > > This date is fine for me. I will be here next weekend. > Even if I am not here in some weekends, I can arrange space > for meetings with my colleagues here. +1 for monthly meetings. Sadly, I wont be available on those days. But would like to j

Re: [BangPypers] (no subject)

2009-02-17 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Guys, let us please settle it here. ( Even though, I may not attend the coming week, here are my points) 1) No more administrative tasks than it is required. Wiki is just fine. No Google Calender and No Meetups. Friend brings his friend and we all are friends. ;) 2) Lets have it at ZeOmega. Baij

Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?

2009-02-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > Do we have anyone who has at least tried the Python support in > NetBeans IDE? Its at http://wiki.netbeans.org/Python. > > Can I make an appeal -would you like to atleast try? I would love to > hear back from you folks.. Python Plugins for N

Re: [BangPypers] Pydev 1.4.4 Released

2009-02-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
BTW Praveen, Thanks for "Forwarding" the release emails. It does help the people at times to get to know whats released. My suggestion is that when you are forwarding, just ensure that it is a forward and attributed to the correct From: address. Otherwise folks might get thinking that you are ch

Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?

2009-02-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:18 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: >> I had tried netbeans long time ago and I felt it was similar to >> Eclipse. I could not get myself used to both. :) > > *Long* time ago ? Yup, may be I tried not with w.r.t Python, but for C++ and I am not really sure. I had got the DVD via

Re: [BangPypers] Do we have any NetBeans IDE for Python users here?

2009-02-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Amit k. Saha wrote: > Thanks! > That's great! I had recently seen the mention of NETBEANS at http://wiki.python.org Editors list and it stayed in my mind. Nice that we have another editor for Python. >> As you have already seem to know NETBEANS, can you help us

Re: [BangPypers] pycon India [was] Open source India

2009-02-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:57 PM, Baiju M wrote: > On Fri, Feb 27, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: >> btw, it is premature to start a fresh mailing list or an organising >> committee at this >> stage. Lets keep it on this list - after all there isnt such a huge amount of >> traffic to b

Re: [BangPypers] Questions regarding Image cropping

2009-03-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 1:25 PM, Arunabha Adhikari wrote: > trying to write a code in python for my own research which involves a little > image processing. All I need to do is to display an image and then select a > region of interest using my mouse and finally crop out the selected region. > I ca

Re: [BangPypers] Django site : FossConf -> PyCon

2009-03-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Mar 1, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: > clarification: I am the main developer and am still around - the rest of the > team has vanished ... I just checked the source code. It is well written one. It is neatly organized and I like the localization aspect of it. +1 for using th

Re: [BangPypers] Classmethod, Decorators and staticmethod

2009-03-06 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 6:29 PM, VIJAY KUMAR wrote: >    Can some one please explain me with example about >    1) classmethod >    2) staticmethod >    3) Decorators Well Vijay, you have asked a sweeping question. That's why you are finding so many unrelated responses. Let me try

Re: [BangPypers] Classmethod, Decorators and staticmethod

2009-03-06 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 7:53 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > I am summarizing the 3 musketeers here. > So, the 20 million dollar question is... " Amongst the 3 musketeers described by Anand B. classmethods and staticmethods are the two, who is the other one?" A. instance method. C. port

Re: [BangPypers] Next IRC meeting

2009-03-09 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Guys, I went through the log of the previous meeting and I saw a lot of enthusiasm and "jumping in" also. A suggestion from my side, whenever possible lets try to keep with monthly on-site meetings going. That would be a good way to prepare for a bigger meetings like PyCon India. Thanks, Senthil

Re: [BangPypers] IndentationError: expected an indented block

2009-03-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Mar 11, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Sandeep HS wrote: > IndentationError: expected an indented block All your classes are indented wrong. As the Error message clearly says it IS an INDENTATION Issue, that is, you have not structured the code properly that parser can understand. The Class should be

Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India IRC Dicussion #2

2009-03-13 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 7:54 PM, Lakshman Prasad wrote: > time, could we have discussion on friendfeed? Like the discussion in > between emails and irc. And yea, i ve created a bangpypers room on > friendfeed. No please. I don't want to create account on that and also that wont serve the purpose.

Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India IRC Dicussion #2

2009-03-13 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, Mar 13, 2009 at 8:05 PM, Senthil Kumaran wrote: > IRC + mailling list should be ok. And yeah, Sorry guys even I could not drop by to IRC channel. I am following the logs and the mailling list though. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing l

[BangPypers] Backup your files - Recipe in Python Cookbook ( Hardcopy)

2009-03-16 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Just to share, I came across the following recipe: http://code.activestate.com/recipes/191017/ in the The Python Cookbook ( Hardcopy). This is written by Anand B Pillai. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.

Re: [BangPypers] Face to face meeting for Python conference

2009-03-19 Thread Senthil Kumaran
2009/3/19 Baiju M : > I won't be able to come for meeting until may 1st week.  I will join our > IRC meets. Same with me, I wont be able to come till 2nd week of April. I shall join in with IRC meetings from this time. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailin

Re: [BangPypers] Help in reading the pdf file

2009-03-26 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 6:29 PM, M Kumar wrote: > > Hi, > > I am maneesh, I need to read one pdf file and extract data from it. Is there > any one can guide me, > thanks in advance > Hi Maneesh, Doing it in Python way is not going to be easy. Just follow the discussion here: http://mail.python

[BangPypers] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Global PyCon open space on Sunday

2009-03-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Baiju / Pradeep, Lets plan to attend this one. -- Senthil -- Forwarded message -- From: A.M. Kuchling Date: Fri, Mar 27, 2009 at 7:06 PM Subject: [PyCon-Organizers] Global PyCon open space on Sunday To: pycon-organiz...@python.org There are several people at PyCon who are w

Re: [BangPypers] Fwd: [PyCon-Organizers] Global PyCon open space on Sunday

2009-03-28 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sat, Mar 28, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Lovely. We should discuss how things can move ahead once you guys are back. > Plus, if you have any thoughts/comments to put across to PSF members, do share. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing li

Re: [BangPypers] Advanced Python or Understanding Python

2009-04-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 12:30 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > So "Unladen Swallow" -> A lightweight Python. > > Quite cryptic I say... they could have opted for something more > straightforward perhaps... Their idea is to backport the changes to CPython. So, there is nothing in naming conve

Re: [BangPypers] Advanced Python or Understanding Python

2009-04-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 7:20 PM, Venkatraman S wrote: > Think this panel was the only thing on the core ; or were there any other > talks (i did not see any in the roster)? > Do you have any notes from this panel? Nope, there were other talks on the core too. Like writing the Python C Extensions (

Re: [BangPypers] Advanced Python or Understanding Python

2009-04-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 1, 2009 at 3:19 AM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: >> > Monty python reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2R3FvS4xr4 > > Plus the 'unladen' meaning lightweight or some such. > In an early Star Trek: The Next Generation novel, Geordi is looking for someone in a bar. He is told to talk to a

Re: [BangPypers] help please..

2009-04-11 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> shridhar kyrlageri wrote: > > can some one help me debug the matlab code.. please reply I am sorry, I do not know Matlab. But can you read this document: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html and explain to us what it says about the kind of question you asked? Your best bet will

Re: [BangPypers] What's the latest with Pycon India?

2009-04-18 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 3:01 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > Can we have an update on the status/interest levels? Start small is the idea. What are your thoughts? I am not much into organizing, but I personally would want PyCon India to start off this year. -- Senthil __

Re: [BangPypers] What's the latest with Pycon India?

2009-04-18 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Noufal, On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 9:32 PM, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > (25th is Python Bug day). I wanted to respond to the earlier mail. But how about the idea that we meet up on 25th, with our laptops and participate in the Python bug day together? Place (with wifi) is something which we will ha

Re: [BangPypers] What's the latest with Pycon India?

2009-04-18 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sat, Apr 18, 2009 at 10:14 PM, Ramdas S wrote: > I am all for doing something small, but good I have not much interacted with others, but you have 4 votes for this one with Baiju, Pradeep, Noufal and I. (We have interacted over mails, in person and sense the need for it). I am sure, many othe

Re: [BangPypers] looking for an opportunity to take up Volunteer work in Python

2009-04-19 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Apr 19, 2009 at 9:54 PM, bijoy wrote: > Pls let me know if there is any opportunity. http://wiki.python.org/moin/VolunteerOpportunities -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangp

[BangPypers] When are we meeting? Saturday or Sunday?

2009-04-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
What time? and where? I vote for Sunday, evening 4:00 pm to 6:00 pm. Satuday is fine with me too. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/bangpypers

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-04-30 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 10:24:39AM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Suppose we have a mini meeting in June, what would our timeline be > like after that in order to get something going in September? Sorry, for pitching in late. I am behind my mails by a huge margin. :) I did get the gist of the Pyth

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
> On Fri, May 1, 2009 at 10:34 AM, Sriram Narayanan wrote: > > Done. > > > > Time: Sunday 4 to 6 pm. > > Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009. > > > Thats's fine.. We can stick to the timing. Thanks, Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org ht

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:21:07PM +0530, Anand Chitipothu wrote: > >  You seem to have a subversive agenda on MG Road that day. > >  Perhaps a date ;) ? > > It takes me about 1 and half to 2 hours to reach ThoughtWorks and it > just takes less than an hour to reach M G Road. Totally it saves 2 >

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 03:55:10PM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > 2009/5/1 Kenneth Gonsalves > > > > > I volunteer to run the event. I am willing to take the blame if it flops. > > And > > share the fame if it succeeds. The only request I have is that in all > > decisions, which will be afte

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 04:54:47PM +0500, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Can someone send out a final Time/Date/Venue/Agenda mail so that > everyone is in sync? Time: 3:00 - 5:00 pm Date: May 3 Venue: TW Agenda: PyCon India 2009. Thanks, Senthil ___ BangPyper

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-01 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 01, 2009 at 10:05:01PM +0500, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Excellent. I'll take the lead as soon as I'm back (12/May). For this > meeting, if one you guys (Senthil or Ramdas) could cover all the major > items we have to handle to get a conference going and put it up on the > wiki, we'd have

Re: [BangPypers] Python Day India

2009-05-03 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 04:39:03PM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > > > Taking "charge", I'm perfectly willing although I see the conference > > as something which comes about because the community wants it rather > > than an individuals ego trip. The only real need for a leader is to > > put hi

[BangPypers] Tentative Date for PyCon India 2009 (Any Objections? Shout Now!)

2009-05-04 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Hello all, Python enthusiasts in India are planning to organize "PyCon India 2009". PyCon India 2009 will the first PyCon in India. This will be an exclusive Python Conference dedicated to language, Python based frameworks and all things Pythonic. The first PyCon India 2009 dates are: 26-Sep

Re: [BangPypers] doc to odt

2009-05-05 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, May 03, 2009 at 09:25:25PM +0530, Ataulla S H wrote: > Hello Subhan, > > This file might help you > > $python DocumentConverter.py test.doc test.odt > Can you point us to the project of this script? Standalone, this won't be helpful at all. Thanks, Senthil

[BangPypers] Zine presentation on May 9th

2009-05-08 Thread Senthil Kumaran
NOTE: Changed the Subject line. On Wed, May 06, 2009 at 06:05:48PM +0530, Kiran Jonnalagadda wrote: > > Fair enough, Senthil. I'll go ahead with just Zine on May 9. > > Anyone who wants to discuss anything else is still more than welcome. I thought, it would be good to send a separate announce

Re: [BangPypers] MOM - Meeting on Sunday May 3rd

2009-05-15 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 06:52:53AM +0530, Nanolets nanolets wrote: > We have a small office in Girinagar (barebones No AC) > office nothing fancy. > Net connectivity can be enabled. For now and future it can be used > anytime without advance notice. Thanks for the offer. We should keep this optio

[BangPypers] Bangpyper's meeting today - 17 th May

2009-05-16 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Time: 5pm - 7pm Date: 17 May Agenda : Follow up to last times meeting and taking the conference forward. Venue: Barista at Church Street; Opposite to Java City. -- Senthil ___ BangPypers mailing list BangPypers@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman

Re: [BangPypers] CPython's 'bignum' Implementation

2009-05-18 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:20:44PM +0530, Amit Saha wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 11:56 AM, Baishampayan Ghose > wrote: > > Thanks :) Since you are the one who asked the question, you can also > > accept my answer as the right answer for the question by clicking on > > the tick sign below the

Re: [BangPypers] Bangpyper's meeting today - 17 th May

2009-05-18 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:45:51PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 12:23 PM, Anand Balachandran Pillai > wrote: > > Did this happen ? Can someone post the MOM ? Here is a gist of important things we discussed. We reiterated on: * Dates of the Conference: September 26 and

Re: [BangPypers] PyCon India meeting minutes from 17/May/2009

2009-05-24 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, May 18, 2009 at 10:28:08PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Hello everyone, > Here are the minutes of the last (17 May) meeting > http://wiki.python.org/moin/BangPypers/Meeting17May2009 > Very nicely written. It's been a week and we have made (at least) some progress. Let us plan to meet

Re: [BangPypers] [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision

2009-05-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, May 27, 2009 at 11:38 AM, VidA wrote: > On Tue, May 26, 2009 at 19:06, Anand Chitipothu wrote: >> Can I vote for more than one entry? Rules mentioned that you could vote for more than one entry. :( ( sad smiley for this topic coming for discussion) > How about the Condorcet or the Schul

[BangPypers] CSS Designers?

2009-05-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Looking at the exciting logos that came up for the PyCon India 2009; I am inclined to believe that we do have good CSS designers in our group. The PyCon India website, currently hosted at http://greenchilly.in needs someone with CSS skills. Would any of you like to pitch in? You may directly conta

Re: [BangPypers] [Inpycon] PyCon Logo decision

2009-05-28 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, May 28, 2009 at 10:06:05PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Between logo 9 and 14, I think we should keep one as the Logo for the > site and the other as a sticker design for the swag and laptop > stickers (the more public face). > > I think 9 is simple enough to go on a site and 14 looks

[BangPypers] problems while using pexpect. pexpect.TIMEOUT always...

2009-06-08 Thread Senthil Kumaran
I have been trying to use pexpect and I am failing with pexpect.TIMEOUT for all my attempts. In order to troubleshoot, I decided to go with simplest possible one. Here is my ssh to localhost: [21:29:14 senthil]$ssh localhost -l senthil sent...@localhost's password: sent...@ubuntu:~$ And here is

Re: [BangPypers] problems while using pexpect. pexpect.TIMEOUT always...

2009-06-08 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Jun 08, 2009 at 10:39:00PM +0530, Gora Mohanty wrote: > > And here is my pexpect script: > > > > http://paste.pocoo.org/show/121788/ > > I am not very familiar with pexpect, but from what I remember > of Expect, there are a couple of issues here: > o You should be using p.expect() instead

Re: [BangPypers] [New bie question ] Clarification on "Multiply" operator applied to list(data structure)

2009-06-10 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Jun 10, 2009 at 04:57:39PM +0530, Aman Aggarwal wrote: > > I am reading "How to think like a computer scientist" which is an > introductory test in Python. > > I wanna clarify the behaviour of multiply operator(*) when applied to > list(data structure). > > > I wonder why > > [[0] * co

Re: [BangPypers] Good Python training in blr

2009-06-15 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 12:35:23PM +0530, Srijayanth Sridhar wrote: > Hello, > > Are there any good python training programs in Bangalore? Can anybody point me > in the right direction? This isn't for me, its for colleagues who might need > to > learn Python for an upcoming project. Please searc

Re: [BangPypers] which is better solution of the question

2009-06-16 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 11:58:32AM -0400, Pradeep Gowda wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 9:52 AM, Abhishek > > Tiwari wrote: > >> I would like to know which method is better and why? Abhishek, whichever you understand best is better. > I wrote a script to test this hypothesis : http://dpas

Re: [BangPypers] which is better solution of the question

2009-06-16 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Jun 16, 2009 at 12:55:28PM -0400, Pradeep Gowda wrote: > >> I wrote a script to test this hypothesis : http://dpaste.com/55994/ > >> The zip() version is 100 times faster on average than the other solution. > > > > Pradeep: > > Here is a surprise: > > http://dpaste.com/hold/56023/ > > I kn

Re: [BangPypers] calling instance of the other class.

2009-06-22 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 04:35:35AM -0700, learningpython wrote: > Please can you tell me how to pass instance of above class as a member of > the new message created in similar lines with one of the elements is the > complete data above (instance of above class). > > I am encapsulating above mes

Re: [BangPypers] calling instance of the other class.

2009-06-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Jun 23, 2009 at 03:50:42AM -0500, Jeff Rush wrote: > > just pass the & of the another structure in the structure element, some > > thing close. > > The equivalent to the & operator in C is just an object reference in Python. > Yes, the Original Poster (learningpython): When you have: c

Re: [BangPypers] Invitations fo Pycon India

2009-06-28 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Jun 29, 2009 at 11:17:29AM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Hello everyone, > Our site is live at http://in.pycon.org/2009/ > That's cool.. I shall register right away and help with the promotional stuff. Need to catch with mails tough. -- Senthil If you stand on your head, you will

Re: [BangPypers] User group meeting this weekend

2009-07-21 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Jul 21, 2009 at 03:46:28PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > > Want a different place for just a change ? > > Please let me know, we can arrange ZeOmega office.[..] > > ZeOmega would be nice this time..Anyone else willing to come? > 0. Depending upon the timings/agenda, it might transform t

Re: [BangPypers] User group meeting this weekend

2009-07-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 07:29:05AM +0530, Brad Allen wrote: > So are we confirmed for meeting at the ZeOmega RLP office at 2pm? Does > everyone know how to find it? Yes. It is confirmed at ZeOmega. > I don't have an organized talk with slides but I can show off some of > the source code we're usi

Re: [BangPypers] User group meeting this weekend

2009-07-24 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Jul 23, 2009 at 01:26:15PM +0530, Brad Allen wrote: > > I'm suggesting we allocate time to plan for a future coding sprint, > maybe a couple of weeks later. I am all for it. Perhaps Aug1 or Aug8. Lets discuss it at todays meet. -- Senthil Modern man is the missing link between apes and

Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID

2009-07-26 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 03:43:36PM +0530, Shivaraj M S wrote: > Is there any python metaclass for UID or only Gates are Super() for the friend > functions of UID publishers' Class hierarchy? Would you please explain what UID is? Not a very common Python term. When speaking of super, I hope you kn

Re: [BangPypers] Detailed talk on the GIL

2009-07-26 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 07:23:59PM +0530, Roshan Mathews wrote: > >> What are the odds, I just downloaded this for later viewing yesterday. :) > >> > > Weird, I viewed the video a bit today morning. > > > "memes" I think these are called. :) Every one suddenly getting interested in concurrency an

Re: [BangPypers] User group meeting this weekend

2009-07-26 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Jul 26, 2009 at 04:42:38PM +0530, Arvind Jamuna Dixit wrote: > I am feeling very bad for myself for having missed yesterday's meeting and am > interested in knowing the minutes of yesterday's meeting. You might join the next meeting perhaps. > The checked the wiki but did not find much de

Re: [BangPypers] Any python metaclasses for UID

2009-07-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Jul 27, 2009 at 02:50:39PM +0530, Sirtaj Singh Kang wrote: > > On 27-Jul-09, at 1:50 PM, Shivaraj M S wrote: > [snip] >> >> Can there be a metaclass in python which can change the behaviour of >> object at creation stage by extending it and nullifying friend >> functions? > > (I must co

Re: [BangPypers] Looking for Linux / Python based jobs

2009-08-27 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Aug 27, 2009 at 06:16:47AM -0700, Ashutosh Narayan wrote: > I am a Linux guy with almost two years of experience. > I am looking for Linux / Python / Bash Scripting / Sys Ad based jobs. > Can anybody give me a pointer for these ? > Please let me know and I shall forward my profile. I don't

Re: [BangPypers] Google CodeJam in python

2009-09-12 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Sun, Sep 13, 2009 at 02:12:47AM +0530, Shashwat Anand wrote: > Google CodeJam doesn't have a feature where we can sort solutions by language Go here http://www.go-hero.net/jam/09/solutions and find the solutions which are in Python. People use a variety of languages. -- Senthil _

Re: [BangPypers] Python 2.7 alpha1 released

2009-12-07 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 01:17:49PM +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > Python 2.7 a1 was released during the week-end. > http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7 This is alpha release,for testing. I don't know if Andrew Kuchling has updated the whatsnew doc. The best piece of whatsnew for alp

Re: [BangPypers] Python 2.7 alpha1 released

2009-12-07 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:00:45PM +0530, Anand Balachandran Pillai wrote: > > > Python 2.7 a1 was released during the week-end. > > > http://docs.python.org/dev/whatsnew/2.7 > > > > This is alpha release,for testing. I don't know if Andrew Kuchling has > > updated the whatsnew doc. The best piece

Re: [BangPypers] Python 2.7 alpha1 released

2009-12-07 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:22:35PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > The newGIL work is in 3k eh? for some reason, I thought it was in the 2.x > series. Seems, its not ported yet. http://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-dev/2009-October/093321.html NB : this is a branch of py3k. There should be no

Re: [BangPypers] Python 2.7 alpha1 released

2009-12-07 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 04:09:26PM +0530, Noufal Ibrahim wrote: > Maybe it shouldn't get ported back. If 2.x becomes as good as 3.x without > the backward incompatibilities, it's going to hurt adoption. It *is* after Come on. :) It should not be that way. There should be more and more compatibilit

Re: [BangPypers] Need help for docproc module

2009-12-10 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Dec 10, 2009 at 02:03:40PM +0530, satyandra babu wrote: > > *from DocProc import Processor, ProcessorStatus* What is DocProc? Why do you need it? > I have Googled for it but not able to find any information, i found that > this script is written for FAST ESP. What is FAST ESP? > Can s

Re: [BangPypers] Python Videos

2009-12-13 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Mon, Dec 14, 2009 at 11:04:48AM +0530, Srinivas Reddy Thatiparthy wrote: > P.S: i can search but i cant double check each and every video whether > it is good in content and sound. The following videos are good resources in my opion. 1. http://pycon.blip.tv You can go to http://us.pycon.or

Re: [BangPypers] mobile application development

2009-12-17 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Dec 17, 2009 at 01:47:50AM -0800, Sam's Lists wrote: > Now if your goal is to make a lot of money with an application that you > write in the next six months, clearly you'd want to chose Symbian over the > N900. But really, you'd want to choose the iPhone if that was your goal. > And that

Re: [BangPypers] Python performance

2009-12-22 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 01:25:17PM +0530, Ramdas S wrote: > I saw this doc and a few other docs online. > > http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonSpeed/PerformanceTips Just follow this. This one seems good. > I/O. I have a program that opens between 4 to 7 text files in memory to Have you done mul

Re: [BangPypers] Python performance

2009-12-22 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Tue, Dec 22, 2009 at 02:01:47PM +0530, Venkatraman S wrote: > Are you sure about this? As in, multithreading *in* python does help? Yes, very much. It is a prevalent misunderstanding that multi-threading in python does not help at all. For IO operations like reading a file, listening and readin

Re: [BangPypers] Tuples vs Lists, perfromance difference

2009-12-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Wed, Dec 23, 2009 at 11:15:56AM +0530, Vishal wrote: > After having everything in Python now, performance is something people want > to look at. Hence these efforts. Would you like to explain a bit more on this? Most often with Python when I have found people speaking about performance and spee

Re: [BangPypers] Is it possible to run python software in WinxP?

2009-12-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
Hello Mr. Sriranga, On Wed, Dec 23, 2009, 74yrs old wrote: > Hello Python experts, Not really experts here, but learners like you perhaps. :) > guidance- step by step- how to run the said program in WinXP also. The > said program viz "tesseractindic-trainer-gui-0.1.3 tar.gz"(113 KB) is > avai

Re: [BangPypers] Tuples vs Lists, perfromance difference

2009-12-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 06:34:51AM +0530, Navin Kabra wrote: > > to expect the performance of C++ in Python. A good comparison should > > be Java and I have found interchanging performance differences for > > applications in Java and Python. > > > > Huh!? > > I think you phenomenally misunderstan

Re: [BangPypers] Tuples vs Lists, perfromance difference

2009-12-23 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 12:52:06PM +0530, Vishal wrote: > What I was thinking is that as a matter of practice, while writing code, is > it good practice to use tuples, whenever we know that the sequence is not > going to change at runtime, and only accessing is going to happen. This is helpful to

Re: [BangPypers] Tuples vs Lists, perfromance difference

2009-12-24 Thread Senthil Kumaran
On Thu, Dec 24, 2009 at 02:06:31PM +0530, Navin Kabra wrote: > Java is statically typed. Which means that the compiler (and the JIT > compiler) has lots of information available to it. Lots of bindings can be > done at compile time. Lots of optimizations can be done at compile time. And Yes, agree

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