Dear Martyn and all,
I had some correspondence with Tim Crawford 15 years ago, and I was
asking him about the notes written on Stephen Stubbs' CD of Saint
Luc. Here are copies of this correspondence. No He did not live
that long, as there were 2 Saint Luc's. Here is what Tim wrote, 15 years
The first recording of music by Saint-Luc that I could get hold of was the
CD
http://www.amazon.com/Works-Lute-Saint-Luc/dp/B265TY/ref=sr_1_8?s=music&;
ie=UTF8&qid=1300914259&sr=1-8 by Stephen Stubbs (recommended!). In his
booklet, he militated against the idea that this music was penned by fat
By chance I've just looked for any recorded music of Saint-Luc and saw
that there's a CD by a 'Jacques-Alexandre de Saint Luc' with
dates given as 1663 - c.1715. I have no knowledge of the source of
this information but it would certainly fit with the speculation of two
individua
The dates of this composer are generally given as 1616 - 1710 which
seems a phenomenal life span for the time and even more so when his
extant lute works seem to be in the style of the early decades of the
18th century (even down to fashionable
doubling of the top and bottom line b
arkens back to him. He bequeathes music by
his</DIV>
> <DIV>> brother as well as music by the
Gaultiers. Antoine
> Gallot's courante Le</DIV> <DIV>> Canon (in
Milleran) is reflected by a
> courante of the same name and</DIV>
<DIV>model</DIV>
> <DIV>> by Denis Gaultier (Barbe, p
1).</DIV> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> Jacques (II) Gallot, called le jeune, was born
around 1640 in
Paris
> and</DIV> <DIV>> died there around 1700.
Boetticher guessed that
Jacques
> (II) was a son to</DIV> <DIV>> Antoine Gallot. The
print "Pieces de
Luth
> Composees sur differens Modes</DIV> <DIV>par</DIV>
<DIV>> J. G. Auec
les
> folies d'Espagnes etc" (Paris probably 1670) is his
work.</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> So far ...</DIV>
<DIV>></DIV> <DIV>> Mathias</DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV> <DIV>></DIV>
<DIV>> -Original-
> Nachricht-</DIV>
> <DIV>> > Subject: [LUTE] Re:
Jacques Gallot and Francesco
> da Milano</DIV> <DIV>> >
Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2011 11:16:51
> +0100</DIV> <DIV>> >
From: Martin Shepherd <<A
> href="mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk";>mailto:mar...@luteshop.co.uk"&mailto:gt;mar...@luteshop.co.uk";>gt;mar...@luteshop.co.uk</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>> > To: <A
> href="mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu"&mailto:gt;l...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>gt;l...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A></DIV>
> <DIV>></DIV>
> <DIV>> > Thanks, I'd forgotten
that. Can you
> help us out by telling us</DIV>
<DIV>> > something about
> which is which? I'm thinking mostly of the
printed</DIV>
> <DIV>> > book, and the music
in the Barbe MS - and it
would
> be interesting to</DIV>
<DIV>> > know if they are by
> different composers. Isn't there also
guitar</DIV>
> <DIV>> > music, or is that yet
another Gallot?</DIV>
> <DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > Martin</DIV>
> <DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > On
> 20/03/2011 00:25, Mathias Roesel wrote:</DIV>
> <DIV>> ></DIV>
<DIV>> > > Erm
> there were two
</DIV>
<DIV>> > ></DIV>
> <DIV>> > >
Mathias</DIV> <DIV>> >
> ></DIV> <DIV>> >
>> -Ursprüngliche
Nachricht--
> ---</DIV> <DIV>> >
>> Von: <A href="mailto:lute-
> mailto:a...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>a...@cs.dartmouth.edu"&mailto:gt;lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>gt;lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A>
[<A href="mailto:lute-
> mailto:a...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>a...@cs.dartmouth.edu"&mailto:gt;mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>gt;mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu</A>]</DIV>
> <DIV>> > Im >>
Auftrag von Martin Shepherd</DIV>
> <DIV>> > >>
Gesendet: Samstag, 19. März 2011
> 12:41</DIV> <DIV>> >
>> An: Lute List</DIV>
> <DIV>> > >>
Betreff: [LUTE] Re: Jacques Gallot and
> Francesco da Milano</DIV>
<DIV>> >
>></DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >> Yes, I agree!</DIV>
<DIV>> >
>></DIV>
> <DIV>> > >>
Martin</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >> On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote:</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> Original Message
> </DIV> <DIV>> >
>>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE]
> Jacques Gallot and Francesco da Milano
>>></DIV>
> <DIV>> > Date: Fri, 18 Mar
2011 23:29:00 +0200</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> From: wikla<<A
> href="mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi";>mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi"&mailto:gt;wi...@cs.helsinki.fi";>gt;wi...@cs.helsinki.fi</A>></DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> To: <A href="mailto:baroque-
> mailto:l...@cs.dartmouth.edu";>l...@cs.dartmouth.edu"&mailto:gt;baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>gt;baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu</A></DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>> Dear baroque lutenists,</DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>></DIV>
<DIV>> > >>> after
having
> check-played through quite a few pieces by Jacques</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> Gallot, I've come to the conclusion
> (that means this is my</DIV>
<DIV>> > subjective
> >>> opininion, of</DIV>
<DIV>> > >>>
> course!) that Jacques really is one of the great lute composers
-</DIV>
> <DIV>> > in
>>> the level of F. da Milano,
Dowland,
> E. Gaultier and such). And</DIV>
<DIV>> > what
> >>> especially came to mind, is that J. Gallot
in a way
tastes</DIV>
> <DIV>> > same as
>>> Francesco da Milano</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> - about 150 years later: very
> economic writing, actually in</DIV>
<DIV>> > extrem,
> >>> very clever ideas of melody and harmony,
extremely very</DIV>
> <DIV>> > well written
>>> to the instrument, its
> tuning, and to the fingers of</DIV>
<DIV>> > both hands
of
> the >>> player. Not to speak of the enjoyment to
the</DIV>
> <DIV>> > ears and
understanding.</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>> So Jacques is thus taken to my heaven of
lute
> geniuses! :-) >>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>> Recommended!</DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>></DIV>
<DIV>> > >>> All
the
> best,</DIV> <DIV>> >
>>></DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> Arto</DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
>>></DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>> To get on or off this list see list
> information at</DIV>
<DIV>> > >>>
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> href="http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-";>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-
> admin/index.html">http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-";>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-
> admin/index.html</A></DIV>
> <DIV>> >
>>></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> >>></DIV>
<DIV>> > ></DIV>
> <DIV>> > ></DIV>
<DIV>> >
> ></DIV>
<DIV>> ></DIV>
> <DIV>> ></DIV>
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Yes, nice playing, indeed, Arto!
As for similarities of Altesse und Folies, one of the Gallots published a
set of variations on Les Folies d'Espagne. So one might guess that he (if he
was the composer of the sarabande, as well) was able to tell Les Folies from
Altesse Royale. And pls correct me i
gt; >> Yes, I agree!
> > >>
> > >> Martin
> > >>
> > >> On 18/03/2011 22:46, wikla wrote:
> > >>> Original Message
> > >>> Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Jacques Gallot
and Francesco da Milano >>>
> > Date: Fri, 18 Mar 2011 23:29:00 +0200
> > >>> From: wikla<mailto:wi...@cs.helsinki.fi";>wi...@cs.helsinki.fi>
> > >>> To: mailto:baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu";>baroque-lute@cs.dartmouth.edu
> > >>>
> > >>> Dear baroque lutenists,
> > >>>
> > >>> after having check-played through quite
a few pieces by Jacques
> > >>> Gallot, I've come to the conclusion
(that means this is my
> > subjective >>> opininion, of
> > >>> course!) that Jacques really is one of
the great lute composers -
> > in >>> the level of F. da Milano, Dowland,
E. Gaultier and such). And
> > what >>> especially came to mind, is that J.
Gallot in a way tastes
> > same as >>> Francesco da Milano
> > >>> - about 150 years later: very economic
writing, actually in
> > extrem, >>> very clever ideas of melody and
harmony, extremely very
> > well written >>> to the instrument, its
tuning, and to the fingers of
> > both hands of the >>> player. Not to speak
of the enjoyment to the
> > ears and understanding.
> > >>>
> > >>> So Jacques is thus taken to my heaven of
lute geniuses! :-) >>>
> > >>> Recommended!
> > >>>
> > >>> All the best,
> > >>>
> > >>> Arto
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> To get on or off this list see list
information at
> > >>> http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html";>http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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