> I suppose it is worth mentioning in this context that Cabezon and
Henestrosa's
> keyboard music was for "tecla, harpa y vihuela", so keyboard players,
harpists
> and vihuela players were all expected to play from the same notation,
which is a
> form of tablature.
Hate to object, but organ tablat
c:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 4:13 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
Hi Stuart,
<>
Having said that, I can't remember if you were at the Lute Soc Summer
School when Eugen Dombois was giving master classes? He was having
From: "howard posner"
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
The idea of instant transposition on an instrument PRECLUDES meantone
temperaments, for starters.
It would only possible in EqualT. in a hypothetical situation that a
given
transposition causes no hideously hard fingerin
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:14 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> The idea of instant transposition on an instrument PRECLUDES meantone
> temperaments, for starters.
> It would only possible in EqualT. in a hypothetical situation that a given
> transposition causes no hideously hard fingerings.
> Say, your sin
On Dec 2, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> Howard, think a little -
> transposition is precluded by temperament.
I'll let David know.
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From: howard posner
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
Re: A=392]
To: "Baroque lute Dmth"
Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 21:14
On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> We've
On Dec 1, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> We've already discussed this: the range of these songs is well within
> that of the generality of sopranos and tenors (see David Hill's recent
> paper which also discusses this matter) so there is really no need to
> transpose except, of
t the time) voices in
this repertoire such as David's male alto. Again, see David Hill's
paper - well worth a read.
Martyn
--- On Thu, 1/12/11, howard posner wrote:
From: howard posner
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
On 1 December 2011 13:58, Roman Turovsky wrote:
> reading off lute tabulature is common practice of historical harpists.
> WITHOUT transposion, naturally.
Unless someone moved the harp an inch or two ...
David
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To: "'Stuart Walsh'" ; "'David van Ooijen'"
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Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 3:29 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablatu
reading off lute tabulature is common practice of historical harpists.
WITHOUT transposion, naturally.
RT
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From: "David van Ooijen"
To:
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2011 5:03 AM
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
Hodgson
Subject: Fw: Re: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on
sight [was Re: A=392]
To: "Baroque lute Dmth" ,
davidvanooi...@gmail.com
Date: Thursday, 1 December, 2011, 10:03
David, thanks again for the reply.
But I do wish you'd supply gene
ake a general case on such a shaky basis is a
wholly different matter.
Martyn
--- On Wed, 30/11/11, David van Ooijen
wrote:
From: David van Ooijen
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
Re: A=392]
To: "Baroque Lute List (E-mail)&q
On 1 December 2011 10:13, William Samson wrote:
> clavichord and sight read from lute tablature flawlessly.
The real wonder would have been if he wouldn't have known what notes
the tablature represented.
David - cannot play keyboard
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ay, 30 November 2011, 22:10
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was
Re: A=392]
On 30/11/2011 16:37, David van Ooijen wrote:
> On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posner<[1]howardpos...@ca.rr.com>
wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David
Ooijen
Cc: Baroque Lute List (E-mail)
Subject: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
On 30/11/2011 16:37, David van Ooijen wrote:
> On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posner wrote:
>> On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
>>
>>>
On Nov 30, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote:
> I'd be far less sure about sight reading lute song accompaniments, let alone
> transposing at sight! The parts are just too difficult to sight read, let
> alone, transpose. Can you do this, Howard?
Why are you asking me, particularly? My mea
ect: [BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re:
A=392]
Dear David,
Thank you for this. I too think it a useful skill to be able to
transpose staff notation on sight (and, indeed, I often do when playing
theorbo continuo) but I think transposing tablature
I like to think we're all enthusiastic amateurs here, sharing our love
for the lute and its repertoire.
Rather than perform a party trick for you, I'd like to show something
much better: you can transpose from tablature yourself. Give it a try,
even if just as a thought experiment.
On 30/11/2011 16:37, David van Ooijen wrote:
On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posner wrote:
On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
Ask your colleagues if they can
transpose a lute song.
What evidence do you have that he has colleagues?
ROTFLOL!
Not sure I am.
Professionals
On 30 November 2011 18:44, howard posner wrote:
> Not sure what you're apologizing for, unless it's sending a message to the
> list instead of to me.
It wouldn't do to be laughing at someone else's expense; but laughing
at my own expense is fine.
> Your English seems fine, except the expression
On Nov 30, 2011, at 9:27 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
> Oh dear, English again - and from the other side of the pond at that!
> Perhaps I'm guilty of the Carly Simon song here: "You're so vain, you
> probably think this song is about you." My humble apologies to all
> involved if that is the case.
> On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posner wrote:
>> What evidence do you have that he has colleagues?
>
> ROTFLOL!
>
> And I thought I was the one giving comic relieve.
Oh dear, English again - and from the other side of the pond at that!
Perhaps I'm guilty of the Carly Simon song here: "You're
On 30 November 2011 17:28, howard posner wrote:
>
> On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
>
>> Ask your colleagues if they can
>> transpose a lute song.
>
> What evidence do you have that he has colleagues?
ROTFLOL!
And I thought I was the one giving comic relieve. You just made m
On Nov 30, 2011, at 7:39 AM, David van Ooijen wrote:
> Ask your colleagues if they can
> transpose a lute song.
What evidence do you have that he has colleagues?
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Dear David,
Thank you for this. I too think it a useful skill to be able to
transpose staff notation on sight (and, indeed, I often do when playing
theorbo continuo) but I think transposing tablature is a rather
different matter and I was therefore surprised that David thought it
On 30 November 2011 16:45, David Smith wrote:
> Just to jump in the fray. My wife is aprofessional musician, as many of you
> are, and I asked here if she thought it was an important skill for piano
> accompanists to be able to transpose on sight. Her response was a resounding
> yes.
>
Of cour
Just to jump in the fray. My wife is aprofessional musician, as many of you
are, and I asked here if she thought it was an important skill for piano
accompanists to be able to transpose on sight. Her response was a resounding
yes.
Now I know the piano is a more amenable for transposition instru
On 30 November 2011 16:12, Martyn Hodgson wrote:
> What you actually wrote was 'Transposing lute song (intabulated parts)
> isn't that hard for an experienced player'. And yes, that does rather
> imply all 'experienced' players.
Yes, it does rather, doesn't it?
> what evidence do you ha
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