Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2012-04-06 Thread Kaush
or if you prefer a Keyboard Maestro brewed solution: http://journal.kaush.co/500/open-with-bbedit-aka-quickcursor-using-keyboard-maestro On Thursday, July 28, 2011 8:09:11 PM UTC+3, LuKreme wrote: > > David Kelly squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 09:38 > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:09:05PM +0100

Re: Windowless AppleScript? (was Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?)

2011-08-11 Thread Christopher Stone
On Aug 11, 2011, at 03:24, Walter Ian Kaye wrote: > I just had a crazy thought. Hey BareBones, what do you think of a notion of > being able to harness BBEdit to manipulate text *without* a window? Like, > instead of 'tell text document 1' it could be 'tell someTextObject'? _

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-08-11 Thread lux
On Aug 11, 4:01 am, oliver wrote: > I just bought BBEdit a few days ago; I'm right in the middle of switching > from TextMate. > So far I'm thrilled with BBEdit. Oliver, I write an Italian Apple-related blog, Script . As a veteran Mac user and BBEdit heavy user, I was touched by your post. I'd l

Windowless AppleScript? (was Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?)

2011-08-11 Thread Walter Ian Kaye
At 07:01 p -0700 08/10/2011, oliver didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: AppleScript (which seems to be primarily useful for customizing your interaction with the app) I just had a crazy thought. Hey BareBones, what do you think of a notion of being able to harness BBEdit to manipulate

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-08-11 Thread Roland Küffner
Am 11.08.2011 um 04:01 schrieb oliver: > ...and clippings (which can also contain scripts - though I've never found a > great example of how this works). Here is a simple but nice example. I use this to insert the URL from Safari's front window as an HTML link. I have a clipping "Insert Safari

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-08-10 Thread oliver
I just bought BBEdit a few days ago; I'm right in the middle of switching from TextMate. I'm not a particularly demanding user -- I don't regularly search/replace for regex patterns in over 300+ documents, nor code software demanding hundreds of interconnected files -- mostly I write prose (and

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Steve Kalkwarf
On Jul 28, 2011, at 2:50 PM, Jim Saklad wrote: > This would be the equivalent of choosing a package that allowed BBEdit to > "run in Vi mode", for example, at which point the interface and user actions > would be nearly indistinguishable from actually running Vi. That would be horrible. :-) St

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Jim Saklad
>>> As someone who is using more Vim nowadays (MacVim is pretty nice), I would >>> probably abandon it completely if BBEdit had a Vim mode. Especially one >>> that included word and sentence motions... >> >> What do these motions achieve? Something that cannot be achieved with >> scripts/keyst

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread LuKreme
Greg Shenaut squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 14:50 > Actually one really good reason for *not* wedding oneself monogamously to > BBedit is if one frequently works on different operating systems, as it is > Apple only AFAIK. Vi* on the other hand is very ubiquitous. With NFS/SMB/webDAV I edit fil

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Greg Shenaut
Actually one really good reason for *not* wedding oneself monogamously to BBedit is if one frequently works on different operating systems, as it is Apple only AFAIK. Vi* on the other hand is very ubiquitous. Greg Shenaut -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the "BBEdit

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread LuKreme
Fritz Anderson squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 13:07 > On 28 Jul 2011, at 12:03 PM, LuKreme wrote: > >> 7) LaTeX integration > > I'm sheepish to admit I don't know about this. I don't find the word "LaTeX" > in the user manual. No, the LaTeX integration comes from the tools that hook into BBEd

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 28, 2011 at 10:04 PM +0200, Maarten Sneep wrote: I guess those are the scripts that I originally wrote [1]. Curious to see what you added. Yes, they are. Most of the changes I made were to remove a bunch of functions I never used. I also think I modified the 'open file' function so

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Maarten Sneep
On 28 jul. 2011, at 21:24, Tim Gray wrote: > On Jul 28, 2011 at 02:07 PM -0500, Fritz Anderson wrote: >> There's syntax coloring for LaTeX, there are clippings that I've extended, >> and I use the worksheet to do builds, but I'm not aware of anything >> specific. Where should I be looking? > >

QuickCursor aka "Use BBEdit everywhere" (was Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?)

2011-07-28 Thread TJ Luoma
> Can we use BBEdit to compose email in Mail.app? :-) You can with this, my favorite new utility since textexpander http://www.hogbaysoftware.com/products/quickcursor It is awesome. I hope y'all will take a look (and I'm not involved with it at all except a customer.) TjL -- You received thi

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 28, 2011 at 02:07 PM -0500, Fritz Anderson wrote: There's syntax coloring for LaTeX, there are clippings that I've extended, and I use the worksheet to do builds, but I'm not aware of anything specific. Where should I be looking? I always use the CompileTeX scripts. I modified them a b

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Fritz Anderson
On 28 Jul 2011, at 12:03 PM, LuKreme wrote: > 7) LaTeX integration I'm sheepish to admit I don't know about this. I don't find the word "LaTeX" in the user manual. There's syntax coloring for LaTeX, there are clippings that I've extended, and I use the worksheet to do builds, but I'm not awar

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 28, 2011 at 06:58 PM +0100, John Delacour wrote: But you do need to change mode, which requires some action on your part other than simple thought-transference. There's no point in getting a big discussion about modal versus non-modal editors. I'm sure it's all been had many, many time

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 28, 2011 at 10:38 AM -0500, David Kelly wrote: Can we use BBEdit to compose email in Mail.app? :-) I use mutt for much of my email in no small part because I can also use vim for composition. Indeed. Look up Quick Cursor. With respect to mutt, I've used BBEdit to compose my mail with

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread John Delacour
At 12:55 -0400 28/07/2011, Tim Gray wrote: Of course, the whole thing about a modal editor like Vim is that you don't have to do all kinds of crazy key combos like command-control-key to run your command. But you do need to change mode, which requires some action on your part other than simp

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread LuKreme
Herbert Schulz squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 11:33 > On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:17 PM, LuKreme wrote: > >> Greg Shenaut squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 10:31 >> >> Well, if you learn the hated emacs keys, OS X supports those in all sorts of >> places. I use ^t all the time (xp in vimspeak). >> >>

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Herbert Schulz
On Jul 28, 2011, at 12:17 PM, LuKreme wrote: > Greg Shenaut squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 10:31 >> On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:13 AM, John Delacour wrote: >> >>> At 10:33 -0400 28/07/2011, Tim Gray wrote: >>> >>> >>> What do these motions achieve? Something that cannot be achieved with >>> scrip

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread LuKreme
Greg Shenaut squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 10:31 > On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:13 AM, John Delacour wrote: > >> At 10:33 -0400 28/07/2011, Tim Gray wrote: >> >> >> What do these motions achieve? Something that cannot be achieved with >> scripts/keystrokes in BBEdit. I doubt it, but am always read

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread LuKreme
David Kelly squaked out on Thu 28-Jul-2011 09:38 > On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:09:05PM +0100, John Delacour wrote: >> At 20:49 -0700 27/07/2011, Brett Kelly wrote: >> >> >> That's one of the main reasons I use BBEdit, and I'd bet that if you >> can do something one way in vim, you could do it th

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread John Delacour
At 10:38 -0500 28/07/2011, David Kelly wrote: Can we use BBEdit to compose email in Mail.app? :-) Of course you can, provided you are prepared to suffer using Mail.app at all and tolerate its very stupid scripting dictionary. You can also do it using less awful mail clients. I use mutt

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread LuKreme
Brett Kelly squaked out on Wed 27-Jul-2011 21:49 > > If somebody asked you, my new friend, why you use BBEdit, what would > you tell them? 1) It’s never crashed on me (well, once, when something stealth installed APE, but I don’t count that). Considering how much work I do in BBEdit this is a

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 28, 2011 at 04:13 PM +0100, John Delacour wrote: What do these motions achieve? Something that cannot be achieved with scripts/keystrokes in BBEdit. I doubt it, but am always ready to be The ability to delete or copy a sentence or word or paragraph or the inner contents of a set of d

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Greg Shenaut
On Jul 28, 2011, at 8:13 AM, John Delacour wrote: > At 10:33 -0400 28/07/2011, Tim Gray wrote: > >> As someone who is using more Vim nowadays (MacVim is pretty nice), I would >> probably abandon it completely if BBEdit had a Vim mode. Especially one that >> included word and sentence motions...

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Semper Fidelis
I use BBEdit to compose my email. I then "select all" in the BBEdit window and drag the selection into my Apple Mail new message or reply. Those two extra steps -- selecting the text and dragging it into position in an Apple Mail -- doesn't seem to slow me down significantly, so I don't mind the

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread David Kelly
On Thu, Jul 28, 2011 at 04:09:05PM +0100, John Delacour wrote: > At 20:49 -0700 27/07/2011, Brett Kelly wrote: > > >If somebody asked me why I use vim, I'd tell them it's because you > >can configure it to do just about anything you want, you never have > >to touch the mouse and there is a vibrant

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Ken Such
I'll second that motion. Those are my sentiments 2. CLAP, CLAp, CLap, Clap, clap, claP, clAP, cLAP, CLAP! = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = = On Jul 28, 2011, at 7:11 AM, Steve Kalkwarf wrote: > On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Brett Kelly wrote: > >> If somebody asked you, my new friend, why

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread John Delacour
At 10:33 -0400 28/07/2011, Tim Gray wrote: As someone who is using more Vim nowadays (MacVim is pretty nice), I would probably abandon it completely if BBEdit had a Vim mode. Especially one that included word and sentence motions... What do these motions achieve? Something that cannot be ach

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread John Delacour
At 20:49 -0700 27/07/2011, Brett Kelly wrote: If somebody asked me why I use vim, I'd tell them it's because you can configure it to do just about anything you want, you never have to touch the mouse and there is a vibrant, active developer community surrounding it that has built all manner of c

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Tim Gray
On Jul 28, 2011 at 07:20 AM -0700, Greg Shenaut wrote: Personally, if BBedit had a “vi mode” allowing the use of the legacy vi keystrokes in a document window, I might use it sometimes, but I'm generally glad for the greater consistency of the GUI mode, coupled with an otherwise satisfactory ed

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Greg Shenaut
I'm a long-time vi user: I was at Berkeley in the 1970's. I thought V6/V7 ed was a great advance over previous editors I'd used, and of course ex was quite clever as an enhancement. I used ex as it acquired the primitive “open” mode (sort of like a one-line-at-a-time vi mode) and then went on to

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Steve Kalkwarf
On Jul 27, 2011, at 11:49 PM, Brett Kelly wrote: > If somebody asked you, my new friend, why you use BBEdit, what would > you tell them? Let me start by stating that I'm biased. I liked the product enough to relocate my family cross-country to work for the company. That said… BBEdit is a mature

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Doug McNutt
At 20:49 -0700 7/27/11, Brett Kelly wrote, and I snipped: >If somebody asked you, my new friend, why you use BBEdit, what would you tell >them? BBedit worksheets are the only reason I switched. Apple's MPW, Macintosh Programmer's Workshop, was never ported to OS 10 and BBedit was the only optio

Re: What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Walter Ian Kaye
At 08:49 p -0700 07/27/2011, Brett Kelly didst inscribe upon an electronic papyrus: I'm developer/writer who has, historically, been a vim (MacVim, specifically) user who is investigating other editors that have a bit better integration with OS X. The majority of my work is editing HTML/ XML, P

What's the BBEdit "Sales Pitch"?

2011-07-28 Thread Brett Kelly
Hello friends, I'm developer/writer who has, historically, been a vim (MacVim, specifically) user who is investigating other editors that have a bit better integration with OS X. The majority of my work is editing HTML/ XML, Python and PHP as well as writing a fair bit of regular old English prose