Dear Hugh,
At 09:19 PM 11/28/2002, you wrote:
Dear Barry,
I really appreciate your on-going tutelage concerning ORMUS.
I will continue to post as I come across things that relate.
I haven't gotten it together to collect any yet, though I probably do rather
inadvertantly with some of my radio
Dear Barry,
I really appreciate your on-going tutelage concerning ORMUS. I haven't
gotten it together to collect any yet, though I probably do rather
inadvertantly with some of my radionic/biodynamic techniques. But keep on
schooling me. Sorry I was unable to attend your workshop in Waynesville.
Dear Hugh,
At 10:48 AM 11/28/2002, you wrote:
Allan is right. A LOT of nutrients can come from the atmosphere. Out your
way a lot can disappear into the atmosphere, can't they? What goes up
must come down. Where does the topsoil/fine organic matter go when it
blows off from neighboring fields
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Subject: Re: What is Magic?
Dear Michelle,
Allan is right. A LOT of nutrients can come from the atmosphere. Out your way a lot can disappear into the atmosphere, can't they? What
Title: Re: What is Magic?
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Moen Creek
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Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 7:31
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Subject: Re: What is Magic?
Although this is the major argument why grassfed is
not truly sustainable, aren't a l
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From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 1:01 PM
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Dear Hugh-
Thanks for your thoughts. I do believe that we are learning and are doing
more things right tha
>> I hadn't even considered that I was depleting the soil
>>doing this. I guess that I struggle with that concept. Isn't this really
>>how nature's system works and nutrients get recycled?
>
>Michelle - In nature's system the animal's carcass and all the
>nutrients stockpiled therein also event
Title: Re: What is Magic?
Although this is the major argument why grassfed is not truly
sustainable, aren't a lot of nutrients also coming from the
atmosphere so that it is possible recycle manure while harvesting
meat and still be break-even on the nutrient scale(s)?
-Allan
As so
Hi David
Point I was trying to make was if we put excess material into
the system too close to the next crop - and then have to use more
cultivation (disking twice?) to encourage breakdown we are going round in
circles - the cycle must be back in balance by time we seed the following
Lloyd Charles" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Tuesday, 26 November 2002 5:53 PM
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> Dear Allan - David -
>
> Michelle wrote
> > > I hadn't even considered that I was depleting the soil
> > >doing
Dear Allan - David -
Michelle wrote
> > I hadn't even considered that I was depleting the soil
> >doing this. I guess that I struggle with that concept. (that grazing
green crops is detrimental - me too)
In my kind of rainfall environment it takes a season to grow a bulky green
manure crop,
I hadn't even considered that I was depleting the soil
doing this. I guess that I struggle with that concept. Isn't this really
how nature's system works and nutrients get recycled?
Michelle - In nature's system the animal's carcass and all the
nutrients stockpiled therein also eventually ge
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Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 5:17 PM
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> Michelle: Green manure crops work best if turned back in with as much bulk
> as possible. F
Michelle: Green manure crops work best if turned back in with as much bulk
as possible. Feeding off to livestock is just not the same unless you
collect the manure and compost it and respread it. In fact by feeding it off
you are depleting your soil and unless you have high biological activity the
Michelle wrote
> That has led us back to bringing cattle on the farm. We intend to learn
to
> put as much standing feed through our animals as we can. That includes
> planting oats as a green manure crop early in March and grazing before
corn
> planting in May, grazing on cover crops planted behi
Dear Michelle,
The way you are re-thinking your farm operation is beautiful. Here's a
couple of thoughts.
Can you buy yearling cattle that have been raised without all the wormers
and hormone implants? Or can you raise two year olds for slaughter if you
have a cow/calf operation where you don't ha
Dear Lloyd,
A visit to Australia by Hugh to show us how he fixes Nitrogen from the air
would be a worthwhile thing, without anything else that we may be able to
learn from being with him.
"KNOW we can do a different agriculture with homeopathics and radionics,
> > despite the fact that the market
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From: "Hugh Lovel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 7:16 PM
Subject: Re: What is Magic?
>
>
>> So sandy land can be good, even though I'd prefer clay. I bet you could
> grow good po
s.
> From: Allan Balliett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Date: Wed, 20 Nov 2002 19:27:50 -0500
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: What is Magic?
>
> My post was not intended to be about marketing per se, but simply an
> aknowledgement of what
Why don't you try reaching out to the pagan community, a more earth based
'religion' than the so called new age.
When I said 'New Age,' I was, carelessly or not, including Pagans.
I think it is important to remember that biodynamics is an evolved
discipline. For the most part, the current pagan
Why don't you try reaching out to the pagan community, a more earth based
'religion' than the so called new age.
(Allan wrote:)
<>
I wonder how many of these same people who didn't attend your conference
will be applying for organic certification...
<>
Just a thought or two,
Jane S.
hanks for your comments and if there is a BD farmer somewhere in Nebraska
>(you thought maybe Bob Steffan-Massena Farms) could you maybe help me to
>contact him with a town name or something?
>
>Thanks again-
>Michelle Wendell
>>
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>> From: Jack Wendell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:39 AM
>> Subject: Re: What is Magic?
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>>
>>
Visit our website at: www.unionag.org
Lloyd,
The BD remedies in the broadcaster set up the conditions, but, of course,
if the soil is dead it helps enormously to apply some compost to get the
micro-organisms cooking.
If the soil is already biologically alive no compost may be needed. We
planted a couple acre corn field this year on an
I would have thought
you'd get a group in Santa Fe easy - maybe the title scared them off?
Lloyd, Hugh, et al -
My impression is that the event was not publicized very well. I'm a
Bioneer associate and I receieved no direct mail or email on this
event. I imagine that the Bioneer people assumed
Dear Hugh
We have Cheryl working on this and I am really looking
forward to your visit if it can be organised - so we'll keep our fingers
crossed - she usually manages to get things to happen. I would have thought
you'd get a group in Santa Fe easy - maybe the title scared them
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>To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:04 PM
>Subject: Re: What is Magic?
>
Dear Michelle,
If you can manage to make barrel compost and apply it via your irriga
Michelle Wendell wrote: My husband is going on what I call his "walkabout" on
Nov 30, and coming to look at your country.
Hi! Michelle,
I am out side the sort of area you would be interested in looking at moving to,
but I am happy to talk off line, if Jack wants some information.
On this list,
Jack Wendell wrote: But my biggest concern is putting the wrong preps in at
the wrong times for what is needed out there!?!?!?
Hi! Jack,
Congratulations on working on such a large scale, with what must be quite an
investment.
As for timing. Have you read both of Hugh Lovel's books? He lays it o
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> Dear Lloyd-
.
> I also wanted to ask you where in southern Australia you were. My husband
> is going on what
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> >
> Hey Michelle, you have not short circuited, you have plugged in and your
> molecules are getting rearranged.
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:04 PM
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> Dear Michelle,
>
> There's no doubt you have really got the restorational bug. Now you are
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 3:49 PM
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> We farm 2300 acres in southern Australia and are, like you, in the middle
of trying to
> con
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 9:51 AM
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> What kind of farm do you have?
Dear Christy,
We will farm 21 pivots for 03 season (each 130 irrig
On 11 Nov 02, Hugh Lovel wrote:
> No doubt we all get to put up with a lot. But personally I have a
> tendency to be offended by such pitches. I guess I'm a reluctant
> huck, so I'm also a reluctant huckster.
Hugh... woven through Roger's post was a thread that had nothing to
do with hucksteri
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Hi Peter
Thanks for the suggestions - we are just about to start some compost for
next years pre sowing brews and I
Dear Roger,
No doubt we all get to put up with a lot. But personally I have a tendency
to be offended by such pitches. I guess I'm a reluctant huck, so I'm also a
reluctant huckster.
Best,
Hugh
>Hugh Lovel wrote:
>
>>So I pass the ball back to you and invite you to brainstorm with me how do
>
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<< Most everyone here thinks I have short
circuited somewhere. I guess what I wanted to say here is thank you for all
of your thoughts on this site. I feel so strongly that I am supposed to be
learning these things. Allan sp
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Hugh Lovel wrote:
So I pass the ball back to you and invite you to brainstorm with me how do
I make this real to farmers? I guarantee they will make more money doing
things the way I teach. How do I get the word out?
YES!! RUSH me my instant *ULTIMATE* Dowsing and Rainmaking Kit in its
Leather
Dear Hugh,
> ... might share my reality with just a little encouragement. My next
thought is
> how might others?
Well, you sure are sharing your reality with me. I'm eating up nearly
everything that comes across from bdnow. I'm sitting out here in Western
North Carolina, in the mountains, makin
gt;work. Well, once again thank you for your thoughts. I hope the spiritual
>world understands and helps those that struggle and are confused, because
>then there is hope for me!
>Michelle Wendell
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>From: "Allan Balliett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Dear Allan,
Your point is taken seriously by me. I got into farming because I wanted
highest quality and I could see no one was into it. I want to make money
but I didn't put it first. Nevertheless since my premise was to make my
farming pay its own way as proof of its efficacy, money was high on
Go Go, Jack
you are starting. I'm reading and have much to learn.
Per Garp/NH
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 10:39 AM
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> Hello-
> I am
Dear Michelle
Thanks for coming on the list with this post - We farm 2300
acres in southern Australia and are, like you, in the middle of trying to
convert away from chemicals. Ours is only a small scale operation in
commercial dollar terms, but we crop 1000 acres of dryland cereals,
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> >"Have a meeting for farmer on how to organize cooperative markets &
> >2 people will come.
> >Have a "class" on how to get 2 blades o
"Have a meeting for farmer on how to organize cooperative markets &
2 people will come.
Have a "class" on how to get 2 blades of grass instead of one & you
had better rent a huge hall."
Maybe I missed the point of the above, Markess, but in our area, tell
farmers how to make money fast (Joel Sa
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Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:39 PM
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> This is the story from an old farmer now doing deliver for the lumber yard
> after loosing the farm.
> "Ha
Title: Re: What is Magic?
This is the story from an old farmer now doing deliver for the lumber yard after loosing the farm.
"Have a meeting for farmer on how to organize cooperative markets & 2 people will come.
Have a "class" on how to get 2 blades of grass instead of o
Hi! Lloyd
Yes please, I would be very interested to see them.
Gil
Lloyd Charles wrote:
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> From: Roger Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:29 PM
> Subject: What is Magic?
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> >
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From: Roger Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:29 PM
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> technology we haven't used or don't understand, concepts we may scoff
> at which actually
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From: Roger Pye <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:29 PM
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> technology we haven't used or don't understand, concepts we may scoff at
> which actually do work.
Hi All
gh at full
speed
Gil
Roger Pye wrote:
> Merla Barberie said:
>
>
>
> > I am going to learn how to dowse. I'm going to make me a ceramic piece
> > for the end of the string.
> > I'm going to dowse soil tests.
>
> What is magic? A skill we meet
Merla Barberie said:
I am going to learn how to dowse. I'm going to make me a ceramic piece
for the end of the string.
I'm going to dowse soil tests.
What is magic? A skill we meet but haven't come across before,
technology we haven't used or don't understand,
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