[beagleboard] Re: Ubuntu Distribution & ssh & nameserver

2014-01-16 Thread Bradley Matusiak
the fix i found was in /etc/ssh/sshd_config ``` UseDNS no On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 10:21:19 AM UTC-5, Mickae1 wrote: > > Hi, > > I'm curious to know why it takes 10 second to login with ssh when > /etc/resolv.conf is empty . And when there is something, it takes less than > 1 sec

[beagleboard] Re: Can't SSH to the bone

2014-01-16 Thread Bradley Matusiak
Also Make sure you update the clock... SSH likes to verify things with time and dates.. like the ssl certificates -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from

Re: [beagleboard] new beaglebone image-builder script fails when downloading Cloud9

2014-01-16 Thread William Hermans
Whats all this talk of "debugging vmware/virtualbox" all about ? On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:10 PM, Robert Nelson wrote: > On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 5:45 PM, Dennis Cote wrote: > > > > > > Still no joy. :-( > > > > I am getting an error when writing the 4GB image to a 4 GB SD card. > > > > root@den

[beagleboard] Beaglebone Black doesn't obtain 169.254.xxx.xxx IP

2014-01-16 Thread Efecan Yilmaz
If i connect my Beaglebone Black, which runs on Angstrom, to my computer via ethernet cable, It obtains an IP address, which starts with 169.254.xxx.xxx, for communication purposes. And I can communicate with it using TCP protocols. I can see that IP address when I use "ifconfig" command in ter

[beagleboard] Why is that ?

2014-01-16 Thread Bogdan Teodorescu
Powered only from +5V barrel connector I tried with latest Angstrom Linux beaglebone 3.8.13 #1 SMP Sun Jan 12 13:00:53 CET 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux and a Vodafone K3772 modem connecte to USB host and all is OK When switching to new Debian image Linux arm 3.8.13-bone32 #1 SMP Fri Dec 13 16:57:41 UTC

Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBone Black Audio Cape Buffer Overruns

2014-01-16 Thread Jack Mitchell
On 13/01/14 19:04, Jack Mitchell wrote: > On 13/01/2014 18:40, eze_rg wrote: >> The best "temporary solution" that worked for me was using SoX for >> recording audio (instead of the "arecord" command). I get just a few >> buffer overruns, once in a while >> But, definitely, this is not a soluti

[beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black doesn't obtain 169.254.xxx.xxx IP

2014-01-16 Thread Efecan Yilmaz
I found the solution. I can give a static IP to my Beaglebone via shell scripts (or adb): ifconfig eth0 up 169.254.13.13 On Thursday, 16 January 2014 11:58:41 UTC+2, Efecan Yilmaz wrote: > > If i connect my Beaglebone Black, which runs on Angstrom, to my computer > via ethernet cable, It obta

[beagleboard] BBB Ubuntu HDMI Red and Blue Inverted in X Window

2014-01-16 Thread sstuart . vigil
Hi, I've got a BBB running Ubuntu 13.04 on the eMMC connected to an HDMI monitor where I want to display a webpage hosted on the BBB. I'm do this by starting an X Server and then launching a broswer: >xinit & >DISPLAY=:0 chromium-browser The page is displayed, but anything that should be blue

Re: [beagleboard] Cross Compile: Windows to BBB running Debian

2014-01-16 Thread rltenney
Hi. Thanks for the replies. I' obviously doing something wrong! I downloaded and unpacked "gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.8-2013.12". I've set up eclipse to the point where it recognizes the compiler etc. It compiles and links my HW1.c "Hello World" program without complaint, but after I

Re: [beagleboard] Cross Compile: Windows to BBB running Debian

2014-01-16 Thread rltenney
Thanks. I downloaded the "gcc-linaro-arm-linux-gnueabihf-4.8-2013.12" version and installed it. It didn't originally solve the problem until I completely removed all files from my workspace, including the .metadata directory. It was not sufficient to remove the projects. Apparently some of

[beagleboard] Re: Beagle Bone black stereo vision application

2014-01-16 Thread Prithvi Ravvarapu
i am looking answer for the same poblem, if you have any updates please do share On Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:04:31 PM UTC+5:30, 007ab...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Will i be able to connect two USB cameras to the beaglebone black via a > USB hub > Will openCV detect the two cameras > My applicatio

[beagleboard] C libray on BBB

2014-01-16 Thread varkabhadram
hai... What is the c library is there on BBB(means uclibc or anything else..) and How can i update the Library..? Thanks in advance.. Regards, Bhadram -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bea

[beagleboard] Re: IPsec-Openssl-CryptoAPI-Hardware acceleration

2014-01-16 Thread sunilvasanta
Hi Tilak, I'm trying to do similar thing as hobby to understand linux kernel. Did you go any pointer on ipsec hardware acceleration Thanks, SUnil On Thursday, October 13, 2011 11:29:50 AM UTC+5:30, tilak wrote: > > Hi Linux Crypto friends, > > We are designing a new hardware crypto module with

[beagleboard] Re: beaglebone to receive infrad remote control with one GPIO pin?

2014-01-16 Thread 143 . mahendra
hi,,I want to transmit lirc code using beaglebone black gpio. anyone got success..?/ I kindly request all you to help me please... > -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To

[beagleboard] BBB: uboot: issue an i2c command every boot

2014-01-16 Thread Rico
Hi, is it possible to issue an i2c command every boot by adding it to the uEnv.txt? (e.g. i2c md 24 1) Thanks -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this

[beagleboard] PRU memory/peripheral access protection with MMU

2014-01-16 Thread tm9681
Hello! I'm afraid this is not really a BeagleBone question. But since PRU is not officially supported by TI, I hope someone out here is enlightened... ;-) The PRU can access the whole global address range of the Sitara, right? But are a PRU's memory accesses run through the MMU? My goal is to pr

[beagleboard] Serial port C / C++ lib

2014-01-16 Thread Bogdan Teodorescu
Hello I want to use BBB to read serial devices with serial Modbus protocol. Is there a library to include in C/C++ code to read/write from serial port (actually USB adapter ttyUSB0), better a Modbus library for the serial port. Thanks a lot Bogdan -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.or

Re: [beagleboard] PRU memory/peripheral access protection with MMU

2014-01-16 Thread Bas Laarhoven
On 16-1-2014 13:37, tm9...@googlemail.com wrote: Hello! I'm afraid this is not really a BeagleBone question. But since PRU is not officially supported by TI, I hope someone out here is enlightened... ;-) The PRU can access the whole global address range of the Sitara, right? But are a PRU's m

[beagleboard] usb0 interface not see

2014-01-16 Thread mariavarghese
Hi, When I booted the Beaglebone Black from* eMMC* ,I got 3 interfaces (*usb0,lo,eth0*) when I did the "ifconfig" command.Then I tried an SD card with the latest Angstrom image( Angstrom Distribution (BeagleBone, BeagleBone Black - 4GB SD) 2013-06-20

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Beaglebone Black doesn't obtain 169.254.xxx.xxx IP

2014-01-16 Thread David Lambert
Use avahi-autoipd http://linux.die.net/man/8/avahi-autoipd On 01/16/2014 07:08 AM, Efecan Yilmaz wrote: I found the solution. I can give a static IP to my Beaglebone via shell scripts (or adb): ifconfig eth0 up 169.254.13.13 On Thursday, 16 January 2014 11:58:41 UTC+2, Efecan Yilmaz wrote:

[beagleboard] SD card on mmc2

2014-01-16 Thread Alberto Potenza
Dear all, I would like to make a board to connect to the BBB in such a way to have an SD card connected to the BBB by the mmc2 bus. In this way could have 2 SD card accessible by the ARM. I am not pretty sure if it is possible (in principle it could be). I need your help in setting the software

[beagleboard] beaglebone black control by smartphone running on android

2014-01-16 Thread ankush . work2
First of all i want to make this very clear that i am newbie to this exciting world of beaglebone so that i don't sound stupid. I started working upon it. i tried to run a simple dc motor using GPIO pins by python. It worked as i thought. I am thinking to take it a step further. I want to contr

Re: [beagleboard] Control voltage of eMMC

2014-01-16 Thread Gerald Coley
It is 3.3V. That is shown in the schematic and the manual. Gerald On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:51 AM, liyaoshi wrote: > This is depend on your eMMC chip ,eMMC spec defines 2 types called either > High voltage or Dual Voltage > > As I understand , on am335x , Just use 3.3v io > > > 2014/1/16 Satz

Re: [beagleboard] Re: Build a QT/11 application for beagleboard black by cross compiling from ubuntu

2014-01-16 Thread Louis McCarthy
You're welcome. Sometimes things sound so clear when I write them, but the next daynot so much :) I've created a howto on my blog, for building Qt 5.2 targeted at a BBB running Ubuntu. It is similar to the cloud-rocket site, but using the Linaro toolchain, and I start from the very beginnin

[beagleboard] Re: Using the BeagleBoard Black instead of our outdated Data Hopper and Rabbit board for central control

2014-01-16 Thread Jason Kridner
If you aren't sure where to go next, here is a great list of consultants with whom to start: http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Linux_Consultants_and_Commercial_Linux_Providers Many of them have been active on this forum and all have knowledge that can help you. On Wed, Jan 15, 2014 at 11:

RE: [beagleboard] Re: Build a QT/11 application for beagleboard black by cross compiling from ubuntu

2014-01-16 Thread William Pretty Security
From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Louis McCarthy Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:42 AM To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Re: Build a QT/11 application for beagleboard black by cross compiling from ubuntu You're w

[beagleboard] bitcoin mining on BBB

2014-01-16 Thread Bradley Matusiak
is it possible to mine bitcoins VIA software on BBB, and if so whats the best way to get started? -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this group and sto

[beagleboard] BBB 4-wire touchscreen problems, ts_calibrate

2014-01-16 Thread larochelle . brian
Hello, I'm trying to wire a touchscreen lcd to the BBB. The lcd appears to be working great, biggest trouble I'm having is with touch. Main problem I'm having, I load my device tree file that enables lcd/touch. I can cat out /dev/input/touchscreen0 or /dev/input/event1 and see data when tappi

Re: [beagleboard] new beaglebone image-builder script fails when downloading Cloud9

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
>> The magic number I've been using is 3750, which is working on >> SanDisk/Kingston/Samsung 4GB >> >> https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder/blob/master/tools/setup_sdcard.sh#L1540 >> > > Yes, 3750*1024*1024 is 3.932 GB, the size of the image file. > > Reducing this to 3750 * 3.904/3.

Re: [beagleboard] new beaglebone image-builder script fails when downloading Cloud9

2014-01-16 Thread Dennis Cote
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 5:10:59 PM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote: > > how about just plain old: > > sudo dd if=./bone-debian-7.3-2014-01-14-4gb.img of=/dev/sdd > I can try but I doubt if it will be any different than cp or xz -cd >. > > > dennis@dennis-VirtualBox:~$ cat /sys/block/sdd/

Re: [beagleboard] BBB: uboot: issue an i2c command every boot

2014-01-16 Thread Vaibhav Bedia
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Rico wrote: > Hi, > > is it possible to issue an i2c command every boot by adding it to the > uEnv.txt? (e.g. i2c md 24 1) > Yeah. Any command that you can invoke from the U-Boot prompt can go into uEnv.txt. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/dis

Re: [beagleboard] Serial port C / C++ lib

2014-01-16 Thread Dave Hylands
Hi Bogan, On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:35 AM, Bogdan Teodorescu < bogdan.teodore...@quartzmatrix.ro> wrote: > Hello > > I want to use BBB to read serial devices with serial Modbus protocol. Is > there a library to include in C/C++ code to read/write from serial port > (actually > > USB adapter ttyU

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread smith . winston . 101
On Wednesday, January 15, 2014 1:05:33 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote: > > The easiest thing to do, is first just fork the repo, then: > > cp beagleboard.org_image.sh custom_image.sh > > Then edit the "chroot_script" line, so you can run your own chroot > customization script.. > > For example

Re: [beagleboard] Re: beaglebone to receive infrad remote control with one GPIO pin?

2014-01-16 Thread Eric Fort
no success or experience here but it seems like it would be a nifty app for the PRUSS on the beagle, especially as that subsystem was initially intended for handling and implementation of various serial protocols. turning this into a PRUSS driver that exposed for instance /dev/remote/sony and/or /

RE: [beagleboard] Re: Build a QT/11 application for beagleboard black by cross compiling from ubuntu

2014-01-16 Thread William Pretty Security
Ok; We have something weird going on here (?) I started with a fresh VM and just installed the tool chain, from the file I had previously downloaded. I then gave myself root access and went to the “/usr/local/angstrom/bin” directory. Here’s what happened: root@ubuntu:/usr/local/angs

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
> > Fantastic, thanks for this, I'm in the process of running my first build. > > However, it occurs to me that perhaps I don't need to copy the > beagleboard.org_image.sh script ... it seems to write all of the things I > want to change to the .project file ... If I drop in my own version of this,

[beagleboard] Re: Lower power modes suspend/resume RTC wake

2014-01-16 Thread alexandreqnx
Hi Ali! Do you have some news about your questions? I will start to work in this issue next week. Regards. -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "BeagleBoard" group. To unsubscribe from this grou

[beagleboard] Is opkg update / opkg upgrade still not advisable on a BBB?

2014-01-16 Thread Chris Frankowski
I've been playing around with my BBB for a few days now, and my continuous googling has turned up many posts that say running opkg upgrade locks up their BBB. Is this still happening? -- For more options, visit http://beagleboard.org/discuss --- You received this message because you are subsc

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread smith . winston . 101
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:10:35 PM UTC-5, smith.wi...@gmail.com wrote: > > > Fantastic, thanks for this, I'm in the process of running my first build. > > Success! ... I think. Don't seem to have working ethernet, here's the console output: [0.361322] omap2_mbox_probe: platform not s

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, wrote: > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 12:10:35 PM UTC-5, smith.wi...@gmail.com > wrote: >> >> >> Fantastic, thanks for this, I'm in the process of running my first build. >> > > Success! ... I think. Don't seem to have working ethernet, here's the > console outp

[beagleboard] Universal Device Tree Overlay

2014-01-16 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
Inspired by the excellent overlay created by Bas Laarhoven for the BeBoPr boards, I am reworking my PRU code for LinuxCNC and plan on creating a "universal" device tree overlay. The basic idea is to enable all of the expected useful SoC features (GPIO, I2C, serial ports, timers, PRU direct I/O) an

[beagleboard] BBB build from SDK ti-sdk-am335x-evm-06.00.00.00-Linux-x86-Install.bin

2014-01-16 Thread nagladhana
Hi All, I've received my BBB two days back, and after exploring a bit decided to build my own images. Googling I found out the SDK by TI at below location : http://www.ti.com/tool/linuxezsdk-sitara : I selected and downloaded below SDK *LINUXEZSDK-BONE*: Linux EZSDK for BeagleBone, Beaglebone B

Re: [beagleboard] Universal Device Tree Overlay

2014-01-16 Thread Jason Kridner
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Charles Steinkuehler < char...@steinkuehler.net> wrote: > Inspired by the excellent overlay created by Bas Laarhoven for the > BeBoPr boards, I am reworking my PRU code for LinuxCNC and plan on > creating a "universal" device tree overlay. > > The basic idea is to

[beagleboard] cannot connect reliably connect to my BBB from my Ubuntu laptop via USB

2014-01-16 Thread Brice Rebsamen
hello I've got a BBB. I'm working on an Ubuntu laptop. BBB's eMMC has unknown config, but SD card has Angstrom installed. I'm having issues connecting to the board via USB. It works 20% of the time. I tried with and without the udev rules (73-beaglebone.rules), I tried with with or without the

Re: [beagleboard] Universal Device Tree Overlay

2014-01-16 Thread Charles Steinkuehler
On 1/16/2014 3:20 PM, Jason Kridner wrote: > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:02 PM, Charles Steinkuehler < > char...@steinkuehler.net> wrote: > >> * Has this been done already? It seems too useful for someone else not >> to have implemented, and I'd rather not reinvent the wheel if it's >> already out

[beagleboard] debian: test images (2014-01-16)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
Thanks for everyone who tested 2014-01-10... So here we go, round two... First, for tracking please report all bugs to: http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases Fixes: 3.8.13-bone35 -> 3.8.13-bone36 * uvc camera backport https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git

[beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-16)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:42 PM, Robert Nelson wrote: > Thanks for everyone who tested 2014-01-10... So here we go, round two... > > First, for tracking please report all bugs to: > http://bugs.elinux.org/projects/debian-image-releases > > Fixes: > 3.8.13-bone35 -> 3.8.13-bone36 > * uvc camera bac

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Louis McCarthy
Anyone else having trouble loading cape dtbo files at boot? I cannot get cape manager to manually load/override/overlay either: sudo echo ANY-CAPE > /sys/devices/bone-cape.9/slots "Permission denied" I've tried an A1 audio cape and a couple of capes that I built. I've tried recompiling the dts s

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 3:49 PM, Louis McCarthy wrote: > Anyone else having trouble loading cape dtbo files at boot? I cannot get > cape manager to manually load/override/overlay either: > sudo echo ANY-CAPE > /sys/devices/bone-cape.9/slots > "Permission denied" sudo sh -c "echo 'something' >> /e

Re: [beagleboard] Re: BeagleBone Black Audio Cape Buffer Overruns

2014-01-16 Thread Jack Mitchell
I think the dma transfers that are happening due to writing to the uSD/eMMC are causing high latency in the IRQ's, which therefore stops data being pulled out of the buffer and as such overrunning. I think there are a couple of factors to it in all honesty and this is just a quick fix, but to

Re: [beagleboard] new beaglebone image-builder script fails when downloading Cloud9

2014-01-16 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:22:12 AM UTC-7, RobertCNelson wrote: > > Okay, just dropped it to 3700.. > > > https://github.com/beagleboard/image-builder/commit/b6288e9ebbe3a688b4c9623ce3c94bfdb9e5e305 > > > Success... finally. :-) It took a while to figure out ship.sh was using the setup_s

Re: [beagleboard] new beaglebone image-builder script fails when downloading Cloud9

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
> Success... finally. :-) That's good.. > It took a while to figure out ship.sh was using the setup_sdcard.sh inside > the image file. I had pulled the new version into the image_builder dir, but > I didn't rerun the entire build. I was just rerunning the ship.sh script. > After editing the setup

[beagleboard] Re: cannot connect reliably connect to my BBB from my Ubuntu laptop via USB

2014-01-16 Thread Dennis Cote
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 2:22:49 PM UTC-7, Brice Rebsamen wrote: > > The udev rules for BBB identify it from ID 0403:a6d0, but lsusb tells me > that "1bcf:2885 Sunplus Innovation Technology Inc" is connected, and in > case the connection is successful "1d6b:0104 Linux Foundation Multifunct

[beagleboard] Disabling/Enabling USB Host Power

2014-01-16 Thread AndrewTaneGlen
Hello, With my BBB I've been using a usb wifi device that that appears to crash unrecoverably occasionally, but always works again if I simply unplug it and plug it back in. With this in mind I've been looking for ways to disable the USB host power output and re-enable it, in order to programm

[beagleboard] CLKOUT2 access in RCN 3.12 kernel?

2014-01-16 Thread Drew Moore
I've been successfully using the Arago 3.2.0 kernel in a Beaglebone (white) project that uses GPMC. I'd like to move to a more recent kernel, thinking that there are realtime fixes in 3.8+ that might help realtime performance. I've been able to stop using omap_mux and move to device tree. My

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Louis McCarthy
Thanks, that did help me troubleshoot. I also ran as root (sudo su) and was getting error messages, but some of those errors were bogus. A quick check with 'dmesg' showed that the command actually went through. Manual loading now finds the dtbo files, but still no love on auto loading capes at

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:19 PM, Louis McCarthy wrote: > Thanks, that did help me troubleshoot. I also ran as root (sudo su) and was > getting error messages, but some of those errors were bogus. A quick check > with 'dmesg' showed that the command actually went through. > > Manual loading now fin

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread smith . winston . 101
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:01:17 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, > > wrote: > > Give it a few more seconds, currently "wicd" is under control of eth0 > (not /etc/network/interfaces) on 3.8 it takes wicd about 2-3 calls > before it gets it.. > > The onl

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread Robert Nelson
On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 8:02 PM, wrote: > On Thursday, January 16, 2014 3:01:17 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote: >> >> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 1:41 PM, wrote: >> >> Give it a few more seconds, currently "wicd" is under control of eth0 >> (not /etc/network/interfaces) on 3.8 it takes wicd about 2-

Re: [beagleboard] Re: debian: test images (2014-01-10)

2014-01-16 Thread smith . winston . 101
On Thursday, January 16, 2014 9:33:13 PM UTC-5, RobertCNelson wrote: > > > 1) Setting user_name in .project (or the main build script) gets > overwritten > > with 'debian' > > Yeah, for some reason it's not sourcing it from ".project" correctly > at the moment.. > > https://github.com/RobertCN

RE: [beagleboard] Serial port C / C++ lib

2014-01-16 Thread Bogdan Teodorescu
Thanks I will try All the best From: beagleboard@googlegroups.com [mailto:beagleboard@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Dave Hylands Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2014 6:49 PM To: beagleboard@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [beagleboard] Serial port C / C++ lib Hi Bogan, On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 5:35 A