Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-22 Thread William Hermans
*I would like to talk more. I've seen some presentations and demos of Linux booting in under a second. That's my primary goal. Secondary is maximizing the free space on the eMMC for content (in my case, MP3 files). I haven't really tried doing a lot in this regard for now, but would like to

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-22 Thread Graham
Rick: You are building a tube radio simulator Get some Orange LEDs and put them in the box under dimmer control. Tell them the boot delay is the filaments warming up. Why do you need 1 second? :-) I time a BBB Rev C, booting off a uSD card with Debian 7.7 Console up and running in 20 seconds.

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-22 Thread William Hermans
*I definitely don't need NFS, nor really the ability to build packages on the BBB. In fact, I'd love to get to where I'm cross-compiling everything, and building a tarball I can easily transfer over. Eventually, I want my app to be able to update itself, if not the entire filesystem.*

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-22 Thread Rick Mann
On Jan 22, 2015, at 07:25 , William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote: I would like to talk more. I've seen some presentations and demos of Linux booting in under a second. That's my primary goal. Secondary is maximizing the free space on the eMMC for content (in my case, MP3 files). I

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-22 Thread Rick Mann
I think we're talking at cross purposes here. I just want a BBB that boots very fast. Secondarily, I want to maximize space on the eMMC for content. Thirdly, I'd prefer to do builds on a host computer, not on the BBB. It's slow, and requires a bunch more stuff to be installed on it. I just

Re: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-21 Thread Rick Mann
On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:03 , Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, okay, thanks! I did some searching. I take it jessie is Debian 8.x, and wheezy is Debian 7.x? That is correct.. Jessie or what will become of Debian 8, is still not officially released, thus we call it jessie

Re: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-21 Thread Rick Mann
On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:40 , Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:03 , Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, okay, thanks! I did some searching. I take it jessie is Debian

Re: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-21 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 11:03 , Robert Nelson robertcnel...@gmail.com wrote: Ah, okay, thanks! I did some searching. I take it jessie is Debian 8.x, and wheezy is Debian 7.x? That is correct.. Jessie or what will become

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-21 Thread Drew Fustini
Sounds like you might something derived from Yocto Project. We just had a presentation at my hackerspace about the Yocto Project and Open Enea Linux: http://www.meetup.com/NERP-Not-Exclusively-Raspberry-Pi/events/219669847/ The speaker, Mark Mills of Enea, gave a demo of running Open Enea Linux

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-21 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Drew Fustini pdp7p...@gmail.com wrote: Sounds like you might something derived from Yocto Project. We just had a presentation at my hackerspace about the Yocto Project and Open Enea Linux:

Re: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-21 Thread William Hermans
super-paired-down distro definition required. But only reason why i mention that Rick is that Robert has a minimal root fs that for me sits at about 70-75M. Fully functional, but with stuff even like openssh-server missing. For going much smaller than 60-75M though you're talking BusyBox . .

Re: Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-21 Thread Robert Nelson
On Wed, Jan 21, 2015 at 3:53 PM, Rick Mann rm...@latencyzero.com wrote: On Jan 21, 2015, at 13:43 , William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote: super-paired-down distro definition required. But only reason why i mention that Rick is that Robert has a minimal root fs that for me sits at

Re: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-21 Thread William Hermans
OK, so nothing says I have to be right here, but what really is the difference between Jessie / Wheezy. In the context of just us (beaglebone's, etc ). Because, the last testing image that I was able to spend some time with seemed exactly like what I'm imaging Jessie should be. *EXCEPT* we were

Re: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-21 Thread Rick Mann
On Jan 21, 2015, at 12:09 , William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway the point I am eluding to for Rick M there is that, if you need something as close as possible to Jessie, you *could* just apt-get install linux-image-3.14.xx. Then be fairly close. You'd still be on the Wheezy

Small distros (was: [beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19)

2015-01-21 Thread Rick Mann
On Jan 21, 2015, at 13:43 , William Hermans yyrk...@gmail.com wrote: super-paired-down distro definition required. But only reason why i mention that Rick is that Robert has a minimal root fs that for me sits at about 70-75M. Fully functional, but with stuff even like openssh-server

[beagleboard] debian testing: 2015-01-19

2015-01-20 Thread Robert Nelson
Howdy! I just pushed out a new set of images for a new year. http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack_Debian#2015-01-19 Feature wise the Wheezy/Jessie images are now identical. U-boot: v2015.01 U-Boot UMS (USB Mass Storage) enabled [ums 0 mmc 1] For Wheezy: Kernel: 3.8.13-bone69 cloud9: