Re: Perl Questions

2009-10-06 Thread sono-io
What is a good starter perl book to learn perl. Best learning Perl book is 'Learning Perl'. Also known as the Lama book. There are other good texts also, but imho that is by far the best. Hello everyone. I'm new here, so please forgive me for replying to a question before asking one, but

How to test for 2 words from a list in a form field?

2011-04-08 Thread sono-io
Hello, I'm wanting to test for the presence of two or more words, from a short list of words, in an address input field in a Perl shopping cart, i.e. both 'box' and 'street', or both 'apo' and 'avenue', etc. and pop up a message. I've found how to do "or" searches with regex, but not "

Re: How to test for 2 words from a list in a form field?

2011-04-08 Thread sono-io
Three hours later, I finally had a brainstorm, and came up with the idea to count the number of occurrences of the words I'm looking for. Here's what I came up with: my $str = "PO Box 6545 / 3546 Termbo Street"; my $address_count = 0; $address_count++ while ($str =~ /box|street|avenue|

Re: How to test for 2 words from a list in a form field?

2011-04-09 Thread sono-io
Hi Chris, > It is detecting but not testing if any particular 2 words are in a > text field and I think that's what you explained you were testing for. Sorry if my first post was misleading. Those were just some examples. I'm looking only for an occurrence of _any_ two words in that li

Calling subroutines with the & sigil

2011-04-13 Thread sono-io
Hello, I read somewhere that it's bad practice anymore to call a subroutine like this: &subroutine(); I've also read where it's faster to call a sub like this: &subroutine; than it is to call like this: subroutine(); Is this true? I searched but I can't find a good re

Re: Calling subroutines with the & sigil

2011-04-14 Thread sono-io
Thanks to both Peter Scott, and Brian Fraser (who wrote me off-list). Very informative. I'm cleaning up a very old script that uses the &subroutine construct and learning more Perl in the process. > If you're worried about the speed overhead of one vs the other then either > you are w

Re: Alternative to goto

2011-04-14 Thread sono-io
On Apr 14, 2011, at 10:15 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: > goto just shouldn't be in your vocabulary. there is no reason for it at all > in any decent language, especially perl. I've been following this thread and I'm just curious. If goto is so bad, why did they add it to Perl? Marc -- To un

Re: format output from system command

2011-04-15 Thread sono-io
On Apr 15, 2011, at 2:11 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > 1. Don't use bareword file-handles. > > 2. Use the three-args open: > > open (my $file_our, '>>', 'cmdout') or die "Cannot open cmdout: $!"; What about writing it like this: open ('FILEOUT', '>>', 'cmdout') ||die "cant open cmdout: $! \

Re: format output from system command

2011-04-15 Thread sono-io
On Apr 15, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Alan Haggai Alavi wrote: >> open ('FILEOUT', '>>', 'cmdout') ||die "cant open cmdout: $! \n"; >> >> Is that O.K.? > > You are still using a bareword filehandle. Putting single quotes around the filehandle allows it to pass Perl Critic, so I was just cu

Embedding Perl in HTML

2011-04-22 Thread sono-io
I realize that this list may not be the best, or even most appropriate, place to ask this question, but I'm just so curious that I'm losing sleep over it! =;) What is the best way to embed perl in an HTML file that is _not_ located under the cgi-bin directory? I started learnin

Re: Embedding Perl in HTML

2011-04-22 Thread sono-io
On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:35 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > either you're phrasing things wrong or i'm misunderstanding things. It's probably the former. =:\ I'm looking for a way to add snippets of perl to my HTML pages, something similar to what PHP offers . At this point, I don't need power

Re: Embedding Perl in HTML

2011-04-22 Thread sono-io
On Apr 22, 2011, at 10:21 AM, Agnello George wrote: > my $tt = Template->new( INCLUDE_PATH => "/var/template" ) || die > "template process failed:$!"; > $tt->process("form.tmpl",\%tag) || die $tt->error(); It appears that I'd have to explicitly name the template file in my script. If t

Re: Embedding Perl in HTML

2011-04-22 Thread sono-io
On Apr 22, 2011, at 11:20 AM, shawn wilson wrote: > says server side includes to me. > says template toolkit Thanks, Shawn. I'll give these a try, as well as the others you mentioned in your previous email. I hadn't heard of PerlDancer before, but it looks interesting. I ha

Re: Embedding Perl in HTML

2011-04-22 Thread sono-io
> I don't understand why you involve cgi-bin in your question, I was trying to be concise, and not take up too much space and time on something that may not have been appropriate for this list, but apparently I was more vague than concise. =:\ Sorry. I've been working with an o

[OFF] OSS Perl Shopping Carts

2011-04-28 Thread sono-io
Are there any current open source Perl shopping carts out there? The only carts I've been able to find are either ancient or are written in PHP. I know about Interchange, but it appears that you have to run an installer(?), which my ISP won't allow me to do (I can't switch ISP's

Re: [OFF] OSS Perl Shopping Carts

2011-05-05 Thread sono-io
On Apr 28, 2011, at 6:49 PM, Jeff Pang wrote: >>Are there any current open source Perl shopping carts out there? The >> only carts I've been able to find are either ancient or are written in PHP. > > I don't know there is such one. That's too bad. Back in 2005, I read an artic

[OT] Good Perl ISP's

2011-05-10 Thread sono-io
Can someone recommend a good ISP that keeps up with Perl? Right now we're with A2 Hosting and they're still stuck at version 5.8.8, and they refuse to upgrade because, and I quote, "we unfortunately cannot perform a global upgrade on perl as it may cause severe problems with other use

Re: [OT] Good Perl ISP's

2011-05-11 Thread sono-io
On May 11, 2011, at 4:26 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: >> I wonder what you urgently need that isn't in 5.8.8? Yes, 5.10/5.12 has >> a few nice things in it, but nothing life-changing. > > I suppose the biggest things aren't really language features as such. > 5.14.0 will very shortly be released. Tha

Re: [OT] Good Perl ISP's

2011-05-11 Thread sono-io
On May 11, 2011, at 12:49 PM, shawn wilson wrote: > besides, it's not like cPanel (or anything else) can't tell perl to > 'use 5.8.8;' - so what is the point? My point is simply this - perception. There are plenty of hosts out there telling people to use them because they have the lates

Use of uninitialized value warnings

2011-05-31 Thread sono-io
Good Morning, I could use some help figuring out where a warning is coming from. My shopping cart script has the following sub: 695 sub get_ud { 696 my ($log, $pass) = $main::global->{login} ? ($main::global->{form}->{'userlogin'}, $main::global->{form}->{'userpass'}) : ();

Re: Use of uninitialized value warnings

2011-05-31 Thread sono-io
On May 31, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Jim Gibson wrote: > $log and $pass are ASSIGNED in line 696, but they are apparently being > assigned an undefined value (undef in Perl-speak). Thanks a million, Jim. You were absolutely correct. I didn't stop to think about the variable result being undefi

Using $variable outside a foreach loop

2011-06-03 Thread sono-io
Maybe it's too early in the morning here, but I can't seem to remember how to use a lexical $variable that is defined inside a foreach loop, outside of that loop.=:\ Here's the loop: foreach my $name (split (/, */, $names)) { next unle

Re: Using $variable outside a foreach loop

2011-06-03 Thread sono-io
On Jun 3, 2011, at 8:45 AM, Alan Haggai Alavi wrote: > Here, the scope of $name is limited to the foreach loop and not outside it. > So, you will have to declare the variable again for use outside the loop. But wouldn't that make the second "$name" a different variable? I'm not at my c

Re: Using $variable outside a foreach loop

2011-06-03 Thread sono-io
C.DeRykus wrote: > One option is an outer enclosing block that'll extend the scope of $name to > that entire block: Jim Gibson wrote: > Declare the variable just before the loop, and remove the 'my' from the > foreach statement: Thanks for the responses. I was able to get it to work

Re: Using $variable outside a foreach loop

2011-06-03 Thread sono-io
On Jun 3, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Uri Guttman wrote: >> s>my $sortstr = substr("00$totalcells", -2); > that looks like you are forcing leading 0's. the common idiom for that > is sprintf "%02d", $totalcells. your way works but is harder to read. Thanks, Uri. I didn't catch that.

Re: Using $variable outside a foreach loop

2011-06-03 Thread sono-io
On Jun 3, 2011, at 1:38 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote: > That implies something is wrong with your logic. Yep. I came to the same conclusion. =:) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/

List of Perl Features

2011-06-07 Thread sono-io
Is there a list of Perl features/removals (since version 5) and when they were introduced? I've searched for one but have come up empty handed. Something like this: Perl 5.10.0 introduced: given-when say Perl 5.12.0 introduced: ... It would be nice to see at a glance

Re: List of Perl Features

2011-06-07 Thread sono-io
On Jun 7, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote: > See `perldoc perl` and search for: > > perlhistPerl history records > perldelta Perl changes since previous version > perl51311delta Perl changes in version 5.13.11 > perl51310del

Different results for say @array

2011-06-08 Thread sono-io
I ran across something interesting today. I'm getting different results for an array depending on how it's used, as follows: say @fieldnames; prints UIDGroupNamelastmodcategoryhtmlhidettsortorder - say "fieldnames = " . @fieldnames; prints fieldnames = 7 - say "fieldnames =

Re: Different results for say @array

2011-06-08 Thread sono-io
On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:25 AM, Jim Gibson wrote: > Because Perl is smart! It treats arrays differently depending upon the > context. On Jun 8, 2011, at 10:22 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > When you quote an array, the elements of that array will be separated by the > content of variable $".

Pulling file name from path

2011-06-09 Thread sono-io
I've written a 'create_sql_table' routine which starts off by pulling the file name (sans suffix) from a path. I've posted four code snippets below. All work fine, but I'm curious to know if there is a better (or more elegant) way to do it? The second example is one line shorter

Re: Pulling file name from path

2011-06-09 Thread sono-io
On Jun 9, 2011, at 7:52 AM, Shawn H Corey wrote: > Use File::Spec and File::Basename together. From what I read, I thought they did the same thing, but from your post it appears that there may be differences. What's the advantage in using both instead of one or the other? Are they not

Getting script to run w/o optional module

2011-06-09 Thread sono-io
I'd like to find a way to make a Perl script "modular". What I mean is that I want to be able to distribute a script either with or without a particular module/package/lib and have the main script run no matter if it's included or not. What I'm trying to come up with is a "lite

Re: Getting script to run w/o optional module

2011-06-09 Thread sono-io
On Jun 9, 2011, at 2:46 PM, John SJ Anderson wrote: > my $module_is_enabled = 0; > eval 'use My::Special::Module'; > $module_is_enabled = 1 unless $@; > > should do what you're looking for. John, Thanks for the code. Between that and wrapping a call to an external sub in an if stat

Looking for comments on code

2011-06-10 Thread sono-io
O.K. I've finished my code to create a MySQL db and/or table, and I'd appreciate hearing your comments. It works well, but it needs to be cleaned up before going live. I've left some testing code in. Go ahead and be brutally honest. I've learned so much from this list already. Than

Re: Looking for comments on code

2011-06-11 Thread sono-io
On Jun 11, 2011, at 2:21 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > Very well, I'll comment on your code. Thanks, Shlomi. Much appreciated. >>my $username = 'root'; >>my $password = 'root'; >>my $host = "127.0.0.1:8889"; >>my $db = "test_dbb"; > I hope you are not connecting to

Re: Looking for comments on code

2011-06-11 Thread sono-io
Dr. Ruud wrote: > Because of RaiseError, that 'or die' is unreachable code That's good to know. I wasn't aware of that. I'm reading up on it now. Thanks! Gurpreet Singh wrote: > Just use a boolean "read_Primary_Key" (default false) and then true after > reading the first line.

Verifying an e-mail address

2011-06-27 Thread sono-io
I'd like to find a way to check if an e-mail address that is entered on a form is valid or, at the very least, just not invalid. Checking CPAN, I ran across a module called Email::Verify::SMTP. Has anyone used this before? If so, what are your impressions? If this is not a

Re: Verifying an e-mail address

2011-06-27 Thread sono-io
Octavian, > I recommend Email::Valid. Any particular reason? Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@perl.org http://learn.perl.org/

Re: Verifying an e-mail address

2011-06-27 Thread sono-io
On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Jim Gibson wrote: > 'perldoc -q address' "How do I check a valid mail address?" Thanks, Jim, I'm reading that now. However, after glancing at it, I may not have been clear in what I actually want. I'm looking to see if it's valid as far as preventing an

Re: Verifying an e-mail address

2011-06-27 Thread sono-io
On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:20 PM, Wagner, David wrote: > Unless you make it a two step process: 1) Send email and individual has > to reply or click an url, I don't believe you can know if the account is > active, etc WITOUT the sending. I can see how that would work fine for a forum,

Re: Verifying an e-mail address

2011-06-27 Thread sono-io
On Jun 27, 2011, at 1:27 PM, Bob McConnell wrote: > The problem with this is that, due to the spam plague, most servers will > no longer tell you if an address is valid. Many do not even return a > bounce message, but silently discard any and all mail for unknown > addresses. Good points.

Re: Verifying an e-mail address

2011-07-01 Thread sono-io
Rick, Thank's for the script! I appreciate your help. Marc On Jun 27, 2011, at 5:24 PM, Rick Sanders wrote: > Hi, > > I posted a reply to your question but it hasn't shown up yet so maybe there's > a problem with my News server. Anyway, here is a script that should let you > do v

Re: How to grab last element of array from split with no temporary variables?

2011-08-17 Thread sono-io
On Aug 17, 2011, at 6:58 PM, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: > Golfers do NOT understand the DAMAGE they are doing to Perl's > perception outside the Perl community, What is golf? Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@perl.org For additional commands, e-mail: beginners-h...@

Foreach loop and hash of arrays

2012-02-06 Thread sono-io
I have a web form where people enter their address info and I want to make sure that the first three digits of their Zip Code correspond to their State. So I'm creating a hash of arrays that contains a list of Zip Codes for the United States. I've also written a foreach loop to

Re: Foreach loop and hash of arrays

2012-02-06 Thread sono-io
On Feb 6, 2012, at 1:42 PM, Steve Bertrand wrote: > This may be easier. It uses the hash elements directly as an array, then uses > grep to see if the zip code is within the specific state. It returns true if > the state owns that zip code, and false if it doesn't. > > if ( grep( /^$customers_z

MIME::Lite Return-Path not being set

2012-04-23 Thread sono-io
I'm trying to set the Return-Path in emails that I send out, but I'm not having any luck. Here's the code I'm trying: use strict; use warnings; use MIME::Lite; my $msg = MIME::Lite->new ( From => 'sen...@example.com', To

Re: MIME::Lite Return-Path not being set

2012-04-23 Thread sono-io
On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:06 PM, sono...@fannullone.us wrote: > I'm trying to set the Return-Path in emails that I send out, but I'm not > having any luck. Apparently the culprit is sendmail, which is the default for Mime::Lite. If I use SMTP instead, I'm able to alter the Return-Path. $m

Re: MIME::Lite Return-Path not being set

2012-04-24 Thread sono-io
Unfortunately, I can't switch to SMTP right now (long story) and so I need to find a way to get Mime::Lite to send the Return-Path. Does anyone know how to do this? If Mime::Lite can't do it, does anyone have another module they can recommend? The reason I need to do t

Re: MIME::Lite Return-Path not being set

2012-04-24 Thread sono-io
Hi Bob, Thanks for the reply. > According to the RFC's, "Return-path" is reserved for use by the transport > servers. It is likely your server is stripping out the suggestion you have > put in there. But I can set it using SMTP, so does sendmail handle things differently? Unf

Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
I'm having a problem with the following code: #!/usr/bin/perl use strict; use warnings; my $xtra = 'mail.example.com'; my $host = 'localhost' unless (defined ($xtra)); print $host; I get the message "Use of uninitialized value $host in print". Does anyone know why this doesn'

Re: Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
Hi Shlomi, Thanks for getting back to me. > What you should do is: > > [CODE] > > my $host; > unless (defined($xtra)) > { > $host = 'localhost'; > } Unfortunately, that gives me the same error. I had tried it before, but I was just trying for a one-liner. ;) > It's a b

Re: Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
On Apr 28, 2012, at 7:32 AM, Lesley Binks wrote: > Says the $host identifier will be assigned the value 'localhost' only if > $extra > is not defined. > > But $extra is defined as 'mail.example.com' so $host won't be. That makes sense. What I'm trying to do is set $host to one of the

Re: Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
Shlomi, > It's a bad idea to declare variables with a trailing conditional statement Never mind my "why" question. It finally dawned on me that the unless statement will not set the $host variable. And I thought sleeping on it would help. :\ Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-

Re: Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
Shawn, > are you sure this is what you want? I'm not sure of anything anymore. ;) I found something that sets $host properly: my $xtra = 'mail.example.com'; my $host = 'localhost'; $host = $xtra if (length $xtra > 0); Can anyone see any holes in this code? Marc --

Re: Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
On Apr 28, 2012, Lesley Binks wrote: > To be robust, you might need to check that $xtra is defined AND has something > sensible in it using a regexp. Well, after being set straight to the error of my ways, I finally have code that seems to work in any situation: my $mail_field; # set

Re: Problem with unless statement

2012-04-28 Thread sono-io
On Apr 28, 2012, Shawn H Corey wrote: > Moral of the story: use meaningful variable names. Yep, you're right. =:\ I thought it was going to be a simple question about the unless statement. Turns out I was headed down the wrong path, so I changed the variable name to make it clear. Ne

Updating Perlbrew

2012-05-03 Thread sono-io
Does anyone know how to update Perlbrew to the latest version? I've searched their site but I haven't found updating instructions (could be my Google fu if off today =:\ ). Are you supposed to just overwrite the previous version instead of updating? Thanks, Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-m

Re: Updating Perlbrew

2012-05-03 Thread sono-io
On May 3, 2012, at 1:39 PM, Paul Johnson wrote: > If you run "perlbrew" or "perlbrew help" you'll see the main commands. > The one you want is "perlbrew self-upgrade". Just run that and it'll do > the rest. Thanks a million, Paul. That did it. It took about 2 seconds to upgrade - it's

Re: Perl preprocessor

2012-05-05 Thread sono-io
On May 4, 2012, at 11:01 PM, Jim Gibson wrote: > Consider the Text::Template module, which allows you to embed Perl code in > your document. I have used it for generating C++ code. Jim, How does Text::Template compare to Mason2 for something like this? Have you ever used it? Marc --

Unblessed reference problem

2012-05-19 Thread sono-io
I'm trying the following code from Programming Perl, but I'm get the error "Can't call method "type" on unblessed reference at untitled text 10 line 23". I've checked the errata page, but there's nothing listed for it. Searching on the error message brings up pages about unblessed refe

shift vs @_

2012-05-20 Thread sono-io
Are there any differences between these two idioms if only one or zero arguments are passed to them? my ($mode) = @_; my $mode = shift; If so, why would you chose one over the other? It seems to me that they behave exactly the same for this purpose, but maybe there's a

Re: shift vs @_

2012-05-21 Thread sono-io
On May 20, 2012, at 10:07 PM, David Christensen wrote: > I've updated function_arguments.pl with Benchmark, below. f_direct() is the > fastest, f_shift() is in the middle (12% slower), and f_assign() is the > slowest (37%). David, Are you saying that it would be faster to do: my $this

Re: Unblessed reference problem

2012-05-21 Thread sono-io
On May 20, 2012, at 8:28 AM, Shlomi Fish wrote: > The problem is that «$self->animals» returns an (unblessed) array reference > and > not the list of individual animals, so you should do something like: > > for my $animal (@{ $self->animals }) { Thanks, Shlomi. That did it. Moose is a

Re: shift vs @_

2012-05-21 Thread sono-io
Hi Paul, > Please don't care about this until your code is running correctly but > too slowly and profiling has determined that this is the bottleneck. I'm curious as to why you say this. If one way is faster than another, wouldn't it be better to do it that way, as long as it doesn't c

Re: shift vs @_

2012-05-21 Thread sono-io
> For one thing, there is the "Lies, Damned Lies and Benchmarks" factor I must have missed the e-mail that said "DOG PILE!!!". =;) Thanks to everyone for the explanations - all good food for thought. That's why I'm here. Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginners-unsubscr...@pe

To quote variables or not

2012-05-23 Thread sono-io
A script that I'm refactoring has global variables in two different styles, e.g.: $main::global->{form}->{'mailprog'} $main::global->{form}->{mailprog} The quote marks don't seem to make a difference, so what would be the advantage of using them? What are they and what do they

Quoting hash keys (was: To quote variables or not)

2012-05-23 Thread sono-io
On May 23, 2012, at 5:35 PM, John W. Krahn wrote: > Your question is not about quoting variables, which is bad, but about quoting > hash keys. On May 23, 2012, at 5:25 PM, Shawn H Corey wrote: > Yes, you can leave the quotes off if the key contains only alphanumerics. > Otherwise you need to

Using perlbrew to change Perl version for scripts

2012-06-02 Thread sono-io
Is it possible to use a shebang line, like #!/usr/bin/env perl, so that scripts will use the currently selected version of Perl with perlbrew? According to the help, it appears that perlbrew only changes the version for the CLI: COMMAND: SWITCH Usage: perlbrew switch [ ] Swi

Re: Using perlbrew to change Perl version for scripts

2012-06-02 Thread sono-io
Shawn, > I don't know anything inside perlbrew that will help, but you could do this: Apparently this is a know issue with perlbrew. I just found this page: https://github.com/gugod/App-perlbrew/issues/70 > sudo ln -s /Users/marc/perl5/perlbrew/perls/perl-5.16.0/bin/perl > /usr/local

Re: Using perlbrew to change Perl version for scripts

2012-06-02 Thread sono-io
Chris, > Yes, the `#!/usr/bin/env perl` shebang should do. I've used it with perlbrew > myself. How are you getting that to work? When I try it, it uses the version of Perl located at /usr/bin/perl, not the version that's selected with perlbrew. Marc -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: beginne

Re: Using perlbrew to change Perl version for scripts

2012-06-03 Thread sono-io
On Jun 3, 2012, at 6:06 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: > but a user has only a single cron job so it is not such a big issue. And therein lies the rub. Why can't perlbrew do that for us automatically? perlbrew switch XXX... and you're done! Your solution makes sense if you only c

Re: Using perlbrew to change Perl version for scripts

2012-06-03 Thread sono-io
On Jun 3, 2012, at 11:18 AM, Paul Johnson wrote: > I'm sure gugod doesn't need a dozen people asking him the same thing. If I'm the only one who wants this, then it won't be a priority for him - and it shouldn't be. However if enough people want it, maybe he'll do it. >> It does it for

Unfamiliar calling of a subroutine

2012-06-07 Thread sono-io
Would someone be so kind as to explain the following, or at least point me to further reading? $item = $main::global->{open}->{catalog}->SurfDB::split_line($main::global->{form}->{'itemid'}); The part I'm having trouble understanding is "$main::global->{open}->{catalog}->". Wh

Re: Unfamiliar calling of a subroutine

2012-06-08 Thread sono-io
On Jun 7, 2012, at 10:19 PM, Brock wrote: > Finally to your last question, how is this different than just calling the > package::sub directly? With a method call the instance variable, in this case > $catalog, always gets passed as the first parameter to the method. Usually > people name it $s