set defaults as hash - once

2009-04-20 Thread Dermot
Hi, I am trying to initiate a hash once when the package is loaded (via modperl). I don't want to make repeated DB queries for this data so I'd like to populate the hash when my daemon starts and not again until it's reloaded/started. I thought that I could say somethign like, if %defaults

Re: set defaults as hash - once

2009-04-20 Thread Chas. Owens
reloaded/started. I thought that I could say somethign like, if %defaults, return %defaults else populate %defaults and return. Here's the error I am getting: Can't modify private hash in logical or assignment (||=) at /export/web/lib/Foo.pm line 28, near } snip You should have gone with your first

Re: set defaults as hash - once

2009-04-20 Thread Dermot
2009/4/20 Chas. Owens chas.ow...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:21, Dermot paik...@googlemail.com wrote: ... I thought that I could say somethign like, if %defaults, return %defaults else populate %defaults and return. Here's the error I am getting: Can't modify private hash

Re: set defaults as hash - once

2009-04-20 Thread Chas. Owens
On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:26, Dermot paik...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/4/20 Chas. Owens chas.ow...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:21, Dermot paik...@googlemail.com wrote: ... I thought that I could say somethign like, if %defaults, return %defaults else populate %defaults and return

Re: set defaults as hash - once

2009-04-20 Thread Dermot
2009/4/20 Chas. Owens chas.ow...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 12:26, Dermot paik...@googlemail.com wrote: 2009/4/20 Chas. Owens chas.ow...@gmail.com: On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 11:21, Dermot paik...@googlemail.com wrote: ... snip I would avoid the do {...} and just muck with %defaults

Re: defaults

2006-06-16 Thread Dr.Ruud
(Randal L. Schwartz) schreef: And I came up with this: $variable ||= 0; # all false values become 0 $variable = 1; # all true values become 1 How about this: ($variable ||= 0) = 1 ; or ($variable = 1) ||= 0 ; depending on whether you expect $variable to be false or

Re: defaults

2006-06-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
John == John W Krahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Wouldn't John $variable = !!$variable; John work just as well? No. There's no promise that the output of ! is 0 and 1. In fact, it's and 1. And that's exactly what I was trying to avoid. Don't confuse C idioms with Perl things.

Re: defaults

2006-06-09 Thread Mr. Shawn H. Corey
On Fri, 2006-09-06 at 06:10 -0700, Randal L. Schwartz wrote: John == John W Krahn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: John Wouldn't John $variable = !!$variable; John work just as well? No. There's no promise that the output of ! is 0 and 1. In fact, it's and 1. And that's

Re: defaults

2006-06-09 Thread Mr. Shawn H. Corey
On Fri, 2006-09-06 at 09:54 -0400, Mr. Shawn H. Corey wrote: How about? $variable = 1 - !$variable; And, of course, to calculate its inverse: $variable = 1 - !!$variable; -- __END__ Just my 0.0002 million dollars worth, --- Shawn For the things we have to learn before we can

Re: defaults

2006-06-09 Thread Dr.Ruud
(Randal L. Schwartz) schreef: There's an =, and I thought I'd never use it. However, one day, I realized that I needed to normalize the true/false value of a variable, because I wanted to reduce all possible true/false values to just 1/0 for easy operations in the next step of the program.

Re: defaults

2006-06-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Mr == Mr Shawn H Corey [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mr How about? Mr $variable = 1 - !$variable; Same problem. And you'll also get a warnings error. There is *no promise* in the Perl docs that a boolean returns a specific value for true or false. Any code that depends on such is broken, in

Re: defaults

2006-06-09 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Dr == Dr Ruud rvtol writes: Dr And q{0 but true} and q{0e0} and q{0e1} etc. become 1 as well. Exactly what I wanted, yes. -- Randal L. Schwartz - Stonehenge Consulting Services, Inc. - +1 503 777 0095 merlyn@stonehenge.com URL:http://www.stonehenge.com/merlyn/ Perl/Unix/security consulting,

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Re: defaults

2006-06-07 Thread Randal L. Schwartz
Bryan == Bryan R Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bryan Is there an = also? How about or=? There's an =, and I thought I'd never use it. However, one day, I realized that I needed to normalize the true/false value of a variable, because I wanted to reduce all possible true/false values to

Re: defaults

2006-06-07 Thread John W. Krahn
Randal L. Schwartz wrote: Bryan == Bryan R Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bryan Is there an = also? How about or=? There's an =, and I thought I'd never use it. However, one day, I realized that I needed to normalize the true/false value of a variable, because I wanted to reduce all

Re: defaults

2006-06-07 Thread Bryan R Harris
is FALSE then assign 3 to $pi. That could also be written as: unless ( $pi ) { $pi = 3; } One last question on this-- Take this (lame) example of an RSVP to an invitation: ** $_ = Bill, 3; # name, number of folks attending (optional, defaults

RE: defaults

2006-06-07 Thread Timothy Johnson
-Original Message- From: Bryan R Harris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, June 07, 2006 4:43 PM To: Beginners Perl Subject: Re: defaults snip Take this (lame) example of an RSVP to an invitation: ** $_ = Bill, 3; # name, number

defaults

2006-06-06 Thread Bryan R Harris
Can someone explain what: $pi ||= 3; ...means? I just saw it in Programming Perl (pp 540), but it doesn't explain it. Thx! - B -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://learn.perl.org/ http://learn.perl.org/first-response

Re: defaults

2006-06-06 Thread John W. Krahn
Bryan R Harris wrote: Can someone explain what: $pi ||= 3; ...means? I just saw it in Programming Perl (pp 540), but it doesn't explain it. Thx! || is the logical OR operator (see perldoc perlop) which says that if $pi is TRUE then keep the current value of $pi but if $pi is FALSE

Re: defaults

2006-06-06 Thread Bryan R Harris
Can someone explain what: $pi ||= 3; ...means? I just saw it in Programming Perl (pp 540), but it doesn't explain it. Thx! || is the logical OR operator (see perldoc perlop) which says that if $pi is TRUE then keep the current value of $pi but if $pi is FALSE then assign 3 to $pi.

RE: defaults

2006-06-06 Thread Charles K. Clarkson
Bryan R Harris wrote: : Is there an = also? How about or=? All perl operators are listed in the 'perlop' file. HTH, Charles K. Clarkson -- Mobile Homes Specialist Free Market Advocate Web Programmer 254 968-8328 Don't tread on my bandwidth. Trim your posts. -- To unsubscribe,

Re: defaults

2006-06-06 Thread John W. Krahn
Bryan R Harris wrote: Can someone explain what: $pi ||= 3; ...means? I just saw it in Programming Perl (pp 540), but it doesn't explain it. Thx! || is the logical OR operator (see perldoc perlop) which says that if $pi is TRUE then keep the current value of $pi but if $pi is FALSE then