Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
But they aren't extras. They are built-in functionality. They have always lived under Settings. ...which has always been ridiculous. As you say: they are functionality. Why should they be under Settings, you don't put functionality in Settings, no one does that. I'm not saying I

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
I like the idea of a Players menu, that would make it a lot easier to find player related functionality which you use often. It's effectively what Settings is - I think the suggestion is just a name change to that menu? ___ beta mailing list

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread JJZolx
Yeah, running it again I'm back to similar library connection problems. Works much better controlling another player than it does controlling itself. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread JJZolx
I have to say, the Encore wallpaper looks much better on my LCD monitor than it does on the Squeezebox Touch. It's a night and day difference. It's blueish and washed out on the Touch (no matter the brightness level), but actually is teal on the computer monitor, with much better contrast. --

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
In 7.3, it was easy to know what to do. Button always drilled down, and only played if the selected entry said play. Now - sometimes button means play, sometimes it means drill down. In play cases, button-hold is drill down. And the play button - what's it for? This really violates my sense

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread lrossouw
On the SqueezePlay Switch players to another player and then back to the SqueezePlay. That is how I got it working with 7.3.3. I won't report bugs using it this way as it is not supposed to work :) -- lrossouw 'Last.fm' (http://www.last.fm/user/lrossouw)

[SlimDevices: Beta] Years not displayed from WMA LossLess tags

2009-09-13 Thread ucw
I am using the latest updated Beta 7.4, but have a problem seeing the 'years' read from WMA LossLess-files. I used to see and view the year-field in 7.3.4 and earlier. I have a few albums in the flac-format and a single MP3-album and these are the only ones from which I can see the 'year', all

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Placement of AppGalery-menu on SBC

2009-09-13 Thread bluegaspode
I don't like 2 'Apps' menus in the main menu as well. pippin;457220 Wrote: My Apps-App Gallery sounds like a good compromise to me. This sounds good to me too. Maybe even 'My Apps-Discover new Apps ...' I agree to anyone who thinks, that settings isn't the right place to put the menu,

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 not running on OS X 10.4

2009-09-13 Thread Quad
Hi there I've just tried 7.4 on my OS 10.4.11 system for the first time today. I experience the same behaviour as John. When hitting the start button Squeezebox Server attempts to start but after a couple of seconds it fails. Cheers Quad -- Quad CD = EAC = FLAC = SC 7.3.3 = SB Duet =

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Still no album art

2009-09-13 Thread Teus de Jong
For me browsing to the folder is not enough to get the album art. To get it I follow these steps: 1. Browse to the folder with the album. The album will show with art. 2. Browse to the artist. On the artist page the album doesn't have art. Going to the album page will add the art. If this

[SlimDevices: Beta] Comments on moving to 7.4 on Debian

2009-09-13 Thread Millwood
The squeezeboxcenter install triggers a remove of squeezebox. Says unmet dependencies. But the config files remain. During startup, you must have/make an account on mysqueezecenter.com - the server insists on it. My controller also forced me to log into mysqueezecenter.com, which is a PITA

[SlimDevices: Beta] re-ordering home menu on SBC (and Touch Radio)?

2009-09-13 Thread aubuti
Sorry if I've missed something here, but is there any progress on supporting user-defined ordering of items on the home menu on the SqueezeOS-based players (SBC/Touch/Radio/SqueezePlay)? I can't find the option anywhere, but I also suspect that things have moved ahead since 'this post last year'

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Years not displayed from WMA LossLess tags

2009-09-13 Thread Jeff Flowerday
I have the same issue. -- Jeff Flowerday Jeff Flowerday's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=15883 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67836

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Years not displayed from WMA LossLess tags

2009-09-13 Thread andyg
Can you please file a bug and attach a file with this issue? -- andyg andyg's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=3292 View this thread: http://forums.slimdevices.com/showthread.php?t=67836

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] No Pandora on SC 7.4?

2009-09-13 Thread jbart1965
Cant remember exactly what I did. I went into Settings and home menu and added My Apps. I found music services listed in My Apps and added to my home menu. I think I also had to go into SqueezeCenter and make sure the music services I wanted were checked off. -- jbart1965

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] re-ordering home menu on SBC (and Touch Radio)?

2009-09-13 Thread JJZolx
Nope. I think it becomes a bigger and bigger issue, especially with the new 'App' thing. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] re-ordering home menu on SBC (and Touch Radio)?

2009-09-13 Thread JJZolx
And with the SqueezeNetwork integration muckup you're lucky if you even get a Home menu you recognize. -- JJZolx Jim JJZolx's Profile: http://forums.slimdevices.com/member.php?userid=10 View this thread:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] re-ordering home menu on SBC (and Touch Radio)?

2009-09-13 Thread aubuti
JJZolx;457844 Wrote: And with the SqueezeNetwork integration muckup you're lucky if you even get a Home menu you recognize. Ouch. I haven't spent any time lately being connected only to SN. But one of the things that made me think again about re-ordering the SC home menu was seeing how

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] re-ordering home menu on SBC (and Touch Radio)?

2009-09-13 Thread JJZolx
Maybe that's the way it's supposed to work. Who knows. I don't see the ability to re-order the Home menu on test.sn.com for Touch and Radio, only older players. I guess the Home menu comes from SN? How does that work if you're not connected to SN? -- JJZolx Jim

[SlimDevices: Beta] Can't access Settings Plugins WebUI page

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
When I click on the tab, nothing happens. Looking in the log, I get: Error: Slim::Web::HTTP::protectName() is deprecated - please use Slim::Web::HTTP::CSRF-protectName() instead Lots of times, and then: [18:26:20.2302] Slim::Web::Template::SkinManager::_fillTemplate (266) Error: file error -

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] re-ordering home menu on SBC (and Touch Radio)?

2009-09-13 Thread aubuti
JJZolx;457851 Wrote: Maybe that's the way it's supposed to work. Who knows. I don't see the ability to re-order the Home menu on test.sn.com for Touch and Radio, only older players. I guess the Home menu comes from SN? How does that work if you're not connected to SN? Yes, I only see it

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Server stops half a minute after starting it up

2009-09-13 Thread Zevs
.. well after some months of struggling with updates on both the Squeezebox and on the Duet, and not really lilong the new Duet interface on 7.4 which feels clunky to me, I finally decided to uninstall 7.4 and completely restart everything with the 7.3 again. Still going through the inital

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Still no album art

2009-09-13 Thread MrSinatra
odd. any chance the tags or file are messed up somehow? if not, sounds like a bug. -- MrSinatra www.lion-radio.org using: sb2 sbc (my home) / sbr (parent's home) - w/sc 7.3.4b - win xp pro sp3 ie8 - 3.2ghz / 2gig ram - 1tb wd usb2 raid1 - d-link dir-655

[SlimDevices: Beta] Facebook app on Controller - 7.4-r28505

2009-09-13 Thread Dave Dewey
I'm sure there are bigger fish to fry with getting this out the door, but I can't get the FB app on the Controller working. I've repeatedly entered my username and password, which I've verified to be correct, but I get a Facebook login error 401 every time. Running on Linux, Version: 7.4 -

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread bluegaspode
I can't switch background images in SqueezePlay. The corresponding list is just empty. Furthermore: is it correct, that I can only connect to a local(host) SqueezeCenter ? SqueezePlay isn't showing any other server, though my 7.4 SBC Controler has no problems connecting to my main-server ? --

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread gcurrie
bluegaspode;457862 Wrote: I can't switch background images in SqueezePlay. The corresponding list is just empty. Furthermore: is it correct, that I can only connect to a local(host) SqueezeCenter ? SqueezePlay isn't showing any other server, though my 7.4 SBC Controler has no problems

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Can't access Settings Plugins WebUI page

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
I assume this would come from a third party plugin. Please disable all of them and try again. I get this for pretty much every plugin, and think it's a warning - I see it at startup too. I fixed my plugins so it didn't report this. I will try disabling all plugins to make sure, but think it's

[SlimDevices: Beta] (v) plugin

2009-09-13 Thread Millwood
After going to 7.4, the first active plugin listed is (v) It has no description or author. What's it about? -- Millwood 2 SB3, 1 Duet Debian Lenny server 2 AP (netgear, linksys) wireless network. Millwood's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Still no album art

2009-09-13 Thread frank1969
yes, sounds like a big bug especially for it worked till one month ago. I filed a bug https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=13315 but it seemed they see it as a SQLlite problem and moved it to 8.0 But the same problem exists in the MySQL version as I/we see... -- frank1969

[SlimDevices: Beta] SBC/squeezeplay can not discover server

2009-09-13 Thread Mnyb
I discovered that the SBC with the latest firmware can not see my SC server I have to use settingsadvancednetworkingremote libraries And add my server that way. Btw Squeezeplay on my Eee PC behaves the same way, but i'm stuck there as there is no hold left button for a long time or similar kay

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread bluegaspode
gcurrie;457873 Wrote: I took a look at my installation (on a server) and there are no images in the Wallpaper directory... I do have wallpaper-images under 'SqueezePlay 7.4\lua\applets\SetupWallpaper\wallpaper' -- bluegaspode One SB-Duet+Receiver. Server running on Linkstation NAS

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Can't access Settings Plugins WebUI page

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
I assume this would come from a third party plugin. Please disable all of them and try again. Erm, silly question - I've moved manually installed plugins so they don't load, but is it safe to do that with ED-installed plugins? I can't get to the Plugins setting page to set their status to

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread peterw
Teus de Jong;457781 Wrote: Maybe I get used to it, but I admit I have several times interrupted playing (to the dismay of others listening) by pushing the center button expecting to 'drill down'. I also don't understand why this has been changed. Party line from Logitech SMBU is that new

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread pippin
Well, actually I don't think it's as simple as that. I don't know, but I _think_ the driving force behind the touch to play decision was the touch screen I/F for the SB Touch. Having worked with these a bit I'm pretty convinced that the decision to have a touch to play behavior for Touch was

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread MeSue
It would be easier to get used to if there was a clear indicator in the UI when a button press was going to trigger the play action. I have been going under the assumption that only single songs do the new select to play behavior. I still slip up every once in a while on the NP list and hit the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread peterw
MeSue;457908 Wrote: It would be easier to get used to if there was a clear indicator in the UI when a button press was going to trigger the play action. +1 on that suggestion. -- peterw http://www.tux.org/~peterw/ free plugins: http://www.tux.org/~peterw/#slim AllQuiet BlankSaver

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread Phil Meyer
I don't know, but I _think_ the driving force behind the touch to play decision was the touch screen I/F for the SB Touch. I think you're right. Having worked with these a bit I'm pretty convinced that the decision to have a touch to play behavior for Touch was the right one. I'm not convinced.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread Andy Grundman
On Sep 13, 2009, at 7:20 PM, peterw wrote: MeSue;457908 Wrote: It would be easier to get used to if there was a clear indicator in the UI when a button press was going to trigger the play action. +1 on that suggestion. I've tried to campaign for a visual indicator that something can be

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread Millwood
There sort of is a visual indicator, I think, at least the way I navigate. When the entry ends with it means button will open it. When it doesn't, it means button will play it. -- Millwood 2 SB3, 1 Duet Debian Lenny server 2 AP (netgear, linksys) wireless network.

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread MeSue
Millwood;457916 Wrote: There sort of is a visual indicator, I think, at least the way I navigate. When the entry ends with it means button will open it. When it doesn't, it means button will play it. Cool, I'll keep an eye out for that. I guess I've become somewhat blind to the

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread peterw
pippin;457907 Wrote: The decision which is debatable here is the one to value CONSISTENCY so high, that even the old interfaces (having dedicated play buttons) which would not have needed that behavior, adopt it anyhow. I believe for the IR remote it's the wrong choice. Even stranger, at

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread lrossouw
Millwood;457916 Wrote: There sort of is a visual indicator, I think, at least the way I navigate. When the entry ends with it means button will open it. When it doesn't, it means button will play it. Perhaps a for navigation and a filled in (i.e. play icon) for playing would be

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] SBC/squeezeplay can not discover server

2009-09-13 Thread Mnyb
found the way in squeezeplay. will file bug on the non discovery thing later. -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes Mnyb's Profile:

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] Don't think I like the 7.4 button semantics

2009-09-13 Thread erland
pippin;457907 Wrote: The decision which is debatable here is the one to value CONSISTENCY so high, that even the old interfaces (having dedicated play buttons) which would not have needed that behavior, adopt it anyhow. I believe for the IR remote it's the wrong choice. Consistency for me

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] (v) plugin

2009-09-13 Thread Michael Herger
What's it about? Some 3rd party plugin? ___ beta mailing list beta@lists.slimdevices.com http://lists.slimdevices.com/mailman/listinfo/beta

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread Mnyb
Anyone filed an enhancement request on a full screen mode for an Eee PC or similar mini laptops :) I'll vote for that -- Mnyb No it can NOT be controlled with iTunes

Re: [SlimDevices: Beta] 7.4 Desktop Squeezeplay builds with Radio/Touch/new Controller UI now available

2009-09-13 Thread erland
Mnyb;457959 Wrote: Anyone filed an enhancement request on a full screen mode for an Eee PC or similar mini laptops :) I'll vote for that https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10057 And some related ones: https://bugs.slimdevices.com/show_bug.cgi?id=10107